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Great race #1 at a track I had the pleasure to attend in 2004. Had my very first Bratwurst there. During the colors and National Anthem I watched as Bruno Junquera sat and ignored them. Glad he faded away.

I think R. Grosjean is just a prima dona and everything revolves around him. I mean of course, they should yellow flag because HE SAYS SO! What an absolute Wanker.

I apologize for beating my dead horse regarding the stupid drivel that comes out of Townsend's mouth. But. Powers tire charger was out too far away from the tire which interfered with Palou's exit? Watching all the other tire changers I saw they were all at the same distance from the tire. I hope he is dropped with the FOX contract.


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I can see Townsend's point, but it's also an optical illusion due to the curve of the pitstop. However, Palou was getting absurdly close to Power's tire changer that helped him jump spots in pit lane.

Race Control has also been the most inconsistent this year on when a stalled or slow car will warrant a yellow being thrown, so Grosjean's only 80% drama queen.

I also loved Conor Daly shitcanning the ECR car that Carpenter and Rassmussen drove out of the leader's circle which use to be his car that he was fired from. If there were two teams that died tomorrow or being Indy 500 only teams, ECR and DCR are it, but I'll also admit that I've got some problem with Ed being Tony George's stepson who got in the IRL because StepDad did a Lawrence Stroll and made a team for him. It's not Ed's fault, but that stigma sticks around in my head.
 
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Extended Highlights from Milwaukee 1 and 2:





It sucks that Power couldn't fully capitalize on Palou's dead battery, but as long as Palou comes in 9th or better he wins in 2 weeks at Nashville Not Quite Superspeedway.

Points So Far:

Standings

1 Álex Palou 525
2 Will Power 492
3 Scott McLaughlin 475
4 Colton Herta 462
5 Scott Dixon 443
6 Pato O'Ward 419
7 Kyle Kirkwood 384
8 Josef Newgarden 365
9 Alexander Rossi 350
10 Santino Ferrucci 339
11 Felix Rosenqvist 301
Christian Lundgaard 301

Here's hoping Foyt can keep Ferrucci next year along with signing David Malukas. I'd love to see A.J. Foyt with 2 drivers that can bring in results, but I'm not sure if Chevy has the resources to run Foyt as a 3 car team with Prema coming in next year just in case they still need Sting Ray's sponsor money.
 
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Ferrucci has been a revelation recently. And yeah, he's got some talent and courage but he's a major accident waiting to happen.




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Ferrucci has been a revelation recently. And yeah, he's got some talent and courage but he's a major accident waiting to happen.


^^ My guess and only a guess is since he does not have a contract for next year he is driving balls to the walls since he has nothing to loose Roll Eyes


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And unlike Christian Rassmussen, he's not wrecking other people or himself. This is also the first time in at least 10 years that a Foyt car in is the Top 10. Not even Sebastien Bourdais could accomplish that.
 
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And unlike Christian Rassmussen, he's not wrecking other people or himself. This is also the first time in at least 10 years that a Foyt car in is the Top 10. Not even Sebastien Bourdais could accomplish that.


I suspect a lot of that improvement is because AJ has stepped back from interfering in his advanced age, the technical link up with Penske, and Larry Foyt having a more reasonable approach and temperament.


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Another season behind us. Congrats to Palou on the Championship. His attitude seems very humble and likable, much like Al Jr. See that Ferucci will stay with Foyt but seems a lot of other seats are up for filling. Power lost to a seat belt. I am suspecting that if that happened to Alex Zanardi, he would have kept right on racing!

I look forward to next season where ALL the races are on ONE channel and they hopefully get ride of TBell. He just likes to hear himself talk and many times he is totally wrong in his reporting on what/why a car/driver did something. Hinchcliffe is fantastic and hope he is picked up. They reported during this race there will be a new team next year.

IMHO...Rossi doesn't seem to be up to par anymore. His car? the team? Maybe Carpenter racing will pick him up? And Rahal also seems past his prime and is just along for the ride. And maybe Romain Grosjean will get a job calling penalties next season Big Grin

Looking forward to next season.. Cheers


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It was sure a year with ups and downs. It does seem that a new chassis is on its way in 2027 and is needed. Something else of interest is Zak Brown wrote an open letter to IndyCar. It's a long read, but well worth it. I'll link to it here:

https://www.mclaren.com/racing...f-indycar-is-bright/

David Land did a great video breaking the whole thing down here:



Now comes the 6 month wait...
 
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It's been a couple of days since the season ended and now this shit happens:

https://racer.com/2024/09/18/f...at-rll-headquarters/

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FBI agents carry out operation at RLL headquarters
Marshall Pruett September 18, 2024 6:37 PM ET

The Federal Bureau of Investigation dispatched agents to the Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing shop in Zionsville, Indiana on Wednesday morning.

The FBI is alleged to have instructed employees within RLL to leave their computers and related electronic devices in place, gather their belongings, and depart the building as agents began an investigation.

The source of the investigation is alleged to involve a former employee of the Andretti Global IndyCar team, who left the team to join RLL in a senior engineering role, and the alleged transfer of intellectual property from their former team to their current team.

“We are cooperating fully with investigators,” said the team in a statement issued on Wednesday evening. “Given that this is an ongoing investigation, we are limited in what information we can share right now, but we intend to provide additional information as soon as we can.”

The FBI is also alleged to have visited the Andretti shop in August to look for proof of possible IP-related improprieties.

A call to Andretti COO Rob Edwards on Wednesday to inquire about the alleged FBI visit to the team’s shop, and whether that visit was possibly linked to today’s FBI appearance at RLL, was met with a “No comment.”
 
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Interesting.

And has there been any further info on the Palou/Mclaren switch..er..non switch?


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They are in non-binding arbitration. He probably won't have to pay the $28 million McLaren wants, but he will still be "Property of Chip Ganassi" for the rest of his career.
 
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Depending on who you believe, there's been a "revolution" at Andretti Global. Andretti and Dan Towriss had to give an interview to the AP to give context to a story that appeared in a sports magazine owned by Jay Penske.

https://kdvr.com/sports/ap-spo...-of-andretti-global/

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by: JENNA FRYER, Associated Press Posted: Sep 29, 2024 / 01:54 PM MDT Updated: Sep 29, 2024 / 01:54 PM MDT

Motorsports icon Michael Andretti told The Associated Press on Sunday he’s at a point in his life where he no longer wants to run the day-to-day of his global operation and that’s why he turned over leadership to his business partner.

No, Dan Towriss did not steal Andretti Global out from under one of the most successful racers in American history.

Towriss, owner of Gainbridge and holding company Group 1001, has slowly grown from a sponsor of one of Andretti’s IndyCar teams to one of the biggest spenders in motorsports. But at least two years ago, Towriss bought an ownership stake in Andretti Global and became part of the entire organization.

And no, Andretti said with firm denial, he was not pushed out of IndyCar by series owner Roger Penske. “Absolutely not. I would not give Roger that much credit,” Andretti told AP.

Andretti and Penske were at odds the entire season when Andretti opened the year by calling on Penske to sell IndyCar if Penske wasn’t willing to spend the capital to properly market the series.

So why now?

The real reason for him stepping away, Andretti told AP, is that he turns 62 next week and has spent his entire life in racing. His father, Mario, is a Formula 1 world champion, Indianapolis 500 winner and four-time IndyCar champion.

Michael Andretti has twin 10-year-old children, two weeks ago became “Nonno” for the first time when son Marco welcomed a daughter, and has multiple business entities to fill his time.

For reasons Andretti, who is a bit of introvert, couldn’t even explain, it was simply time for him to take a step back. He will still have some sort of role — he doesn’t know what or how many races he’ll even go to — but the name Andretti Global will remain intact.

“We’ve been working on this for a few months now. For me where I am in my life and what I want to do, the timing was right for me to take a little different role with the team,” Andretti told AP. “A role where I don’t have to be on it every day and I can still stay involved because I’ll be involved as an advisor as well as an ambassador. We were able to come to a deal between myself and Dan and I think we are both happy with what we came up with.”

Andretti Global fields cars in IndyCar for Colton Herta, who won the series finale and finished second in the final standings, Marcus Ericsson and Kyle Kirkwood. It fields teams across seven total series and on Monday will give female driver Jamie Chadwick a test in an Indy car. Andretti Global also supports the two teen young sons of the late Dan Wheldon.

What happens to the F1 efforts?

Both Andretti and Towriss declined to discuss their efforts to join F1, which has been an ongoing battle in which the owners of F1 and the majority of the teams have been vehemently against expansion. Part of the issues seemed to be personal in that the leaders of F1 simply don’t like the Andretti’s.

With Towriss now in charge and Andretti more window dressing, it is not clear if that changes F1’s opinion of Andretti Global’s hopes to join the series. Neither would even say if they are still pursuing F1.

Towriss told AP that in his role leading a global financial firm, he doesn’t envision himself running the day-to-day operations of Andretti Global and that the current leadership team is likely to stay in place. Andretti still holds an ownership stake in the organization, Towriss said, and no drivers have contracts that are voidable if Andretti Global restructures leadership.

The two spoke to AP on Sunday before they’ve even had a chance to speak to the Andretti Global employees in an attempt to get ahead of salacious rumors and unfounded reports that Andretti was pushed out of the team he’s run since 2002 by Towriss.

Hand was forced

The duo had planned to announce the restructuring in the coming months but were beat to it by a Friday report in Sportico, a publication owned by Roger Penske’s son, Jay. The dots began to be connected, Andretti and Towriss figure, once IndyCar team owners agreed to a new charter agreement and it was Towriss who signed on behalf of Andretti Global.

The two denied the Sportico characterization that Andretti relinquished “his ownership stake” in Andretti Global.

“We didn’t say that he doesn’t own our team. There’s all kinds of speculation,” Towriss said. “We certainly have restructured the ownership. Michael still has a financial interest. This got leaked in a way that put us on our back foot in terms of responding to things. People are going to always look to try to fill a vacuum with stories that sound great and are super interesting. This one is not super interesting. Michael said this was a time to take on a different role from the daily grind.”

Where does Andretti go from here?

Andretti’s 42 career victories rank fifth on IndyCar’s all-time win list, but he’d long ranked third behind A.J. Foyt and his Mario Andretti until active drivers Scott Dixon and Will Power passed him on the list. Andretti drivers have won the Indianapolis 500 five times — Mario Andretti is the only family member to achieve the accomplishment — and has not won the IndyCar title since 2012.

The team this past season scaled from four cars to three, lost sponsor DHL to rival Chip Ganassi Racing, and Herta’s two victories were the only two wins of the season for Andretti in IndyCar. It took Herta’s season-ending victory to surge him to second in the final standings.

Despite the results and the longtime slump, Towriss remained adamant that Andretti Global can still compete with Team Penske, Ganassi and Arrow McLaren. Ganassi just won his third championship in four years, while Penske has won back-to-back Indianapolis 500s.

“Colton came in second in points, Kyle had a great year, it was a transition year for Marcus, but I’m really confident in how he’s going to do next year,” Towriss said. “In terms of the number of championships won, they have been Penske and Ganassi drivers, and that’s a target to shoot for. But I would bristle at any notion that Andretti Global is a ”B Team” in IndyCar.”

Andretti said he’ll for sure be at the Indianapolis 500 this year, where son Marco has a contract to run for the team. Beyond that? He doesn’t know.

“I’m 62 years old and you know, you only have so many years left to do things,” Andretti said. “I’ve got a lot of great things happen for me in my life, and now is the time to enjoy some of them.”
 
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Just read where the Pensky Group acquired the LBGP. 2025 will be the 50th running of the GP. I'll be in grandstand 24 at the hairpin!


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Just read where the Pensky Group acquired the LBGP. 2025 will be the 50th running of the GP. I'll be in grandstand 24 at the hairpin!


Guess I'm getting old.
I remember the first, a F5000 race. I went there in 1983 when it was F1 and later in 1996 when CART/Indy cars were running.
Good to see it not turn into a stock car race.


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Just read where the Pensky Group acquired the LBGP. 2025 will be the 50th running of the GP. I'll be in grandstand 24 at the hairpin!


You want to change the thread title and make this the permanent IndyCar thread?

Speaking of which, coming in 2026:



In addition, some of the modders out there have made rough draft of the entire track as well.

 
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DanH, regarding your thoughts on making this a permanent Indy Car thread. I thought about it myself but I think we should keep it as a season by season thread, (as long as the boss allows us to) This 2024 season we are up to 7 pages as I type this. I think each year wild and different things pop up in the season and I would hate to lose that info in a muti page thread should someone want to go back and look something up.

So the race is on, pun intended, for the member to get the 2025 'season underway' thread going!

Thanks for your thoughts and the great videos you post.


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Meet Will Power's new Verizon livery that premiered on the NFL on FOX Pregame Show. You would never seen NBC promote IndyCar on one of their big shows like this.


 
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I enjoy reading this thread, I don't keep up on indy cars other than here.
I enjoy the oval races but the road courses just don't seem to have as many lead changes or passing.
Nice looking car, first time that I noticed the full windshield, wonder how that works out when raining.
 
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If you have the time, you can always watch it:

 
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