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Originally posted by Black92LX:
^^^^^^^^^
It’s so hard to keep up with.

Agreed!

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Originally posted by MacGyver:
^^^That's the first I'm hearing that. What I heard was that all production of previous generations had stopped entirely and that the remaining stock of Gen5 was being allocated exclusively to fulfill the (ultimately limited) remainder of LE contracts.

Still trying to find the specific blurb that stated the Gen5s will continue for LE.
Though Gen5s are still alive and well on current pistols available for LE while Gen5s have been removed from the commercial listings.
https://us.glock.com/en/products/law-enforcement

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Originally posted by iron chef:


The Grit Grips for Glock slimline guns is supposed to be released later this month, probably after SHOT Show.

Thanks for the feedback! I may have to try that, and it's good to know that the release date for the slimlines is probably close. I may jump on one of those and then pick up a blue label 43x mos to go with it.

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by MacGyver:
^^^That's the first I'm hearing that. What I heard was that all production of previous generations had stopped entirely and that the remaining stock of Gen5 was being allocated exclusively to fulfill the (ultimately limited) remainder of LE contracts.

Still trying to find the specific blurb that stated the Gen5s will continue for LE.
Though Gen5s are still alive and well on current pistols available for LE while Gen5s have been removed from the commercial listings.
https://us.glock.com/en/products/law-enforcement

Gen5 pistols will continue to be available for LE agency purchase for the foreseeable future.

^^^Does that include new contracts or just existing contracts?

Anyway, I saw the Gen6 G19 at my LGS a couple of days ago. I was impressed. I still don't like Glock's way of doing interchangeable backstraps and the thumb rest is still a bit awkward (though it has been significantly redesigned and gels better with the mag release button), but I think it's a very nice improvement overall. The new trigger guard undercut makes the G19 grip length much more comfortable for me now and with the corresponding new grip tang undercut, the bore axis is just that much lower too. The new texture is excellent. The palm swell and the textured thumb pad (which I can confirm is cut into the frame and does not add width) are both well-executed. The trigger shoe is far more comfortable than in previous generations.

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Originally posted by MacGyver:
^^^Does that include new contracts or just existing contracts?

Anyway, I saw the Gen6 G19 at my LGS a couple of days ago. I was impressed. I still don't like Glock's way of doing interchangeable backstraps and the thumb rest is still a bit awkward (though it has been significantly redesigned and gels better with the mag release button), but I think it's a very nice improvement overall. The new trigger guard undercut makes the G19 grip length much more comfortable for me now and with the corresponding new grip tang undercut, the bore axis is just that much lower too. The new texture is excellent. The palm swell and the textured thumb pad (which I can confirm is cut into the frame and does not add width) are both well-executed. The trigger shoe is far more comfortable than in previous generations.

New contracts as well as existing contracts.

Got my G19 gen 6 today! I love it! Everything about it is perfect for me. Now I wanna sell my gen 5 to get another gen 6 lol.

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I received a 17 Gen 6 today. I had not planned on buying one right away, but a distributor I use called and has selling one per dealer so I figured I would give it a shot.

I am not in love with the optic mounting system. The combination of slightly undersized polymer recoil bosses and no optic fencing makes me think the screws that mount the optic will be potential failure points. I have seen several companies announce aftermarket plates, I plan to run the factory polymer one for several thousand rounds (or until failure) before I switch.

My example has a particularly poor trigger, in my opinion. The trigger bar rubs on the right side of the slide stop lever assembly when pulled and I suspect that to be part of the problem. I'm not super picky on triggers and will likely not install an aftermarket one.

I am no expert. Looking at the optics system the plates are merely washers in effect. The bosses being made of plastic make them closer to eyewash than actually being a structural component. It seems the “washer” will keep screws from backing out. That’s it. The screws are going to be primary structural component, the plate merely limits the likelihood of them backing out. That’s it.

So if the screws are strong enough you won’t have any issues and them backing out probably won’t happen.

That’s my take. Whether it’s better or not is debatable. A standardized mount for all optics is the ultimate answer I believe. Until then we get plastic optics plates.

I’ve taken my G45 gen 6 to the range twice now, and I’m thoroughly impressed. The grip texture makes a very positive impact, and I think they managed to squeeze even more accuracy out of the barrel than the gen 5, which was already pretty dang accurate.

I’ve read that they have gone to a stepped chamber? Can anyone else confirm?

One of the weaknesses that I’ve seen has been some folks claiming that the screws on their optics tend to back out easily, but I have not had that experience, verified by witness marks on the optic/screws.

Yup. I use my wife’s paint pens and make witness marks on all “important” screws. Takes 3 seconds. Cheap insurance. I will buy a gen6 for many reasons. I like shiny things. I like the new texture. I think I like saying gas pedal knowing that one guy is losing his mind. I like the undercut I no longer have to dremel. Flat trigger is a to be determined later. I will wait though till I can buy blue label because at the end of the day it isn’t really better than my gen 2, 3,4, or 5’s. I can wait till then.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
I am no expert. Looking at the optics system the plates are merely washers in effect. The bosses being made of plastic make them closer to eyewash than actually being a structural component. It seems the “washer” will keep screws from backing out. That’s it. The screws are going to be primary structural component, the plate merely limits the likelihood of them backing out. That’s it.

So if the screws are strong enough you won’t have any issues and them backing out probably won’t happen.

That’s my take. Whether it’s better or not is debatable. A standardized mount for all optics is the ultimate answer I believe. Until then we get plastic optics plates.

One of the videos I watched pretty much explained it this way that the plastic plate is more of washer/gasket than that of any structure.
They tested aluminum and steel plates and the plastic was a better option.

Of course it is. There is a reason washers are made of flexible material not aluminum or steel. I used to struggle with keeping threaded barrel thread protectors on. Then I heard about using O rings. Never had an issue since. Flexible material nearly guarantees that screw ain’t coming out.

What I find odd and perhaps I didn’t see it “correctly”, is that some of them have bosses or posts for certain optics. For the life of me I can’t believe a plastic post is doing anything at all. I almost believe they are added only to visually distinguish one footprint from another.

This seems better than MOS. A gasket/O ring/washer combined with metallurgically strong screws is the answer for now. Not cheap Chinese screws of questionable strength. I shouldn’t be able to break the head off a screw with a screw driver. I think this combo is a win.

I picked up a new G/19 gen 6 today , nice grip , trigger is nice will get better , fits my Desantis open top leather and Galco thumb brake holsters perfect fit , giving it a wipe down,and will try out today if I get time , they did a nice job on them .

Forward Control Designs is already working on options for the gen6 if people don't like the washers.

GlockStore also has a preorder going for an RMR plate.

Held Gen 6 G17 and G45 today at the Indy 1500 Gun Show. Did not try triggers. They did not have a G19 or I might have bought it.

The new grip feels like a Springfield Echelon. Very round and comforable, with the usual grip angle. The beavertail and backstrap give a very solid feel, with the gun deep in the hand due to trigger guard undercut. The gas pedal cuts are functional, and the stippling is very grippy but not too abrasive.

Glock got this one right. Add replaceable backstrap inserts so you can have a flat backstrap and it would be perfect.

Well, I still have to try a trigger pull, but the Gen 5 triggers were fine so Gen 6 should be OK too.

Optics mounting I need to look into. But for most optic screws you can buy high strength alloy steel screw from McMaster Carr in Torx or Torx Plus. Use them at proper torque along with loctite and you should never have a problem. Remember to clean and degrease all holes and screws with alcohol first. Use Loctite 243 Blue if possible, it is a little thicker and more contamination tolerant than Loctite 242 Blue.

I got to run maybe 60 rds through the gen 6 Glk 19 today I used 124 nato , Blazer alm case 115 , and magtec ran great , the trigger reach seems a little shorter and I can work with it , but I just gave the gen 6 a quick clean up and tried the med back strap that came with it , fit perfect and felt way better for me I left it on looked good , have Gold dot 124 , fed hst , more nato stuff to run maybe Sun . I like it .

My boy and I ran six mags total through the gen 6 19 this afternoon. Three for him and three for me. He cleaned it afterward and did a great job.

Shot great and feels great. I love the stippling and beaver tail. The undercut is nice and I’m glad it has the extended mag catch. Trigger is fine. I like the flat face but I don’t notice much between my other Glocks. But, to me, it’s a combat trigger not a high end Olympic bullseye pistol.

I have some night sights coming tomorrow. That’s all I’m changing for now.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
I am no expert. Looking at the optics system the plates are merely washers in effect. The bosses being made of plastic make them closer to eyewash than actually being a structural component. It seems the “washer” will keep screws from backing out. That’s it. The screws are going to be primary structural component, the plate merely limits the likelihood of them backing out. That’s it.

So if the screws are strong enough you won’t have any issues and them backing out probably won’t happen.

That’s my take. Whether it’s better or not is debatable. A standardized mount for all optics is the ultimate answer I believe. Until then we get plastic optics plates.

I'm not worried about the screws backing out, I'm worried about the strain placed on them when they have to hold the optic in place against lateral Gs. Optics that aren't properly supported with fencing and/or recoil bosses tend to sheer screws right at the top of the threads.

That’s what I said. It’s a washer. The screws are going to take all the stress. The plastic bosses are, plastic. Which is structurally this side of pointless.

Best bet? Go buy really good screws and it’s probably fine. This is better than MOS but it won’t rewrite how things are done.

Are any optics a good tight fit fore and aft in this cut? That would help. Even if the manufacturers don’t standardize perhaps they could all agree to those two posts up front. I guess we just have to wait to see who wins the vhs/betamax war. It seems like rmr footprint but that is just my opinion.