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Originally posted by Guinnessman:
rocketray,

Check the number on you ejector. If it says 336, then you have an older style ejector and it needs replaced. The weak ejection and brass to the face has been an issue with the newer Glocks.

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Originally posted by Ian111:

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:

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Also don't you all think the G17 is a classic? I mean without it what would have been in its place?

Had Gaston Glock not invented it, the same pistol would still have been invented at some point. But probably by Mr. Archibald Flamenhinkeltrombonoplermortebellapaintenprimerinone.

Harder to fit that on the side of a pistol.

I don't agree that the Glock pistol was necessarily destined to happen. Slightly worse or slightly better version of it? And maybe not introduced until 5 years later? 20 years later? Or maybe even never? Its possible. And would it have been executed as well as a Glock 17 in terms of simplicity? The same type of trigger and "safety" arrangements that has also been influential? And consistently produced in large numbers with same quality control for as long? etc etc. There's a lot of alternate realities that could have happened or not happened. On balance I'd say we were pretty fortunate that it was Gaston Glock and history did not take a chance with Mr. Archibald Flamenhinkeltrombonoplermortebellapaintenprimerinone. If it was that easy and inevitable you would think all the other inventors, designers, plagiarists, and mega-conglomerates would have produced a pistol that truly and convincingly betters the Glock pistol by a small margin by now. But they arguably haven't. The Glock annoyingly continues to dominate after all these years and multiple failed attempts by its competitors.

I think Gaston Glock himself would say he had to fight for every inch for the success of his pistol and its continued success to this day. The pistol was seen as poison then and its still considered poison in some circles even in this "Post-Glock Era". There is a special hatred and resistance reserved for Glocks that has remained consistent and unabated since its inception that no other pistol face. They dismiss his pistols as dumb luck that he gave away to win over America. Right..... I think Mr. Glock would argue history didn't just lay out an easy path for him and everyone got out of the way. To this day Glocks enemies can't wait for the pistols' demise while ironically many of them have a polymer pistol on their belt. They can't wait to re-write history and make Glock a footnote in history. An overrated accident. What really bugs them is that it wasn't them.

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:

Without Glock, there would be something just like it. But we wouldn't know, because we'd have no knowledge of Glock. Trying to decide what would have been in its place, or whether or not a Glock would happen without it being Glock, seems like a fruitless exercise. What if the 1911 had never been invented? The Garand? What if pants had never been invented? What if, what if, what if.

Objectively, in a world without Glock, there would still be a Glock. We just would call it something else, and it may or may not be different. But some pistol would be the toughest most reliable mass produced pistol. A rose by any other name.

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Originally posted by jeremiahjj:

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Originally posted by navyshooter:

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Originally posted by Swain0351:

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Originally posted by agony:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
I need one in red, white, and blue. 'Merica!! Hell yeah!!

If they made one, I'd get one too!

Looks like someone does. Glockstore.com

I plan of stopping by TheGlockStore this week, they're local, I'll see if they have one.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and while I love the red, white and blue and cry when the American flag passes by in a parade, that is the ugliest gun I have ever seen. Others may feel differently, which is fine too.

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Originally posted by Ian111:

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:

Without Glock, there would be something just like it. But we wouldn't know, because we'd have no knowledge of Glock. Trying to decide what would have been in its place, or whether or not a Glock would happen without it being Glock, seems like a fruitless exercise. What if the 1911 had never been invented? The Garand? What if pants had never been invented? What if, what if, what if.

Objectively, in a world without Glock, there would still be a Glock. We just would call it something else, and it may or may not be different. But some pistol would be the toughest most reliable mass produced pistol. A rose by any other name.

I simply don't accept the proposition that "Without Glock, there would be something just like it." There are infinite alternate realities we could ponder, everything from a pistol that is several generations better than Glocks to a junkyard full of polymer pistols that was rejected by everyone. It is a fruitless (though possibly) entertaining exercise. But fruitless. I think its better to just stick with our objective reality. The way things actually happened and give credit to someone who exerted his vision and his will into our world. The same way I wouldn't take John Browning, Samuel Colt, Mikhail Kalashnikov, or Eugene Stoners' contributions for granted and say if it wasn't for them someone else would have.

The harsh reality is, its the rest of us who are sitting around going "What if....."

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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
Objectively, in a world without Glock, there would still be a Glock. We just would call it something else, and it may or may not be different. But some pistol would be the toughest most reliable mass produced pistol. A rose by any other name.

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Originally posted by drew0002:
don't you all think the G17 is a classic? I mean without it what would have been in its place?

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Originally posted by parabellum:
At some point in your life, you will buy a Glock and secretly fall in love with it. You'll fondle it late at night and engage in the Love that Dares not Speak it's Name.

You'll build a special compartment for it in your bomb shelter. You'll give it a name - Francine or some stupid-ass thing like that.
But you'll never admit it. You'll live a closeted life and die a bitter old man.

It doesn't have to be like that, y'know. Just own up and be free.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
I'm happy to say I'm still not a Glock owner. A new pistol just entered my stable but it's not a Glock.

Honestly... I don't like how they look, I don't like how they feel, and after shooting one I wasn't impressed.

Nope.. said it before, will say it again. No Glock for me.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
I'm happy to say I'm still not a Glock owner. A new pistol just entered my stable but it's not a Glock.

Honestly... I don't like how they look, I don't like how they feel, and after shooting one I wasn't impressed.

Nope.. said it before, will say it again. No Glock for me.

Stop posting that shit in this thread. Good God.