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But, you still don’t have to. We live in beautiful times where there are an abundance of really good, seasoned choices. The M&P is 25 years old now. Very reliable with a lot of options. Most, if not all of the fleas it had, have been worked out. Walther has a bunch of good options. You have the VP9. Springfield has a couple of decent choices. FN has a just ok in my book. But, times have never been better as far as choices go. But- The Glock 17 to me is the gold standard. | |||
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That's not 'entirely' accurate, and a bit misleading as it omits pertinent information re: a subsequent determination that hasn't been widely reported...Likely because it doesn't fit the narrative of those on the bandwagon. Army’s Sig P320 Derived Pistols Will Remain Unchanged After Concerning FBI Report https://www.twz.com/land/army-...oncerning-fbi-report The following quote was snipped from the linked article published by TWZ (The War Zone) on July 17, 2025.
____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Making America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Well duh! I don't work for them or have any real insight into their financials! That's why I said "Seems to me...", implying it was my opinion. How about YOU set the record straight!?! And just for the record, attitudes like yours from the company is one more reason for me to leave Sig in the rearview mirror. Goodbye and good riddance!
I wish! I dearly love my SP2022 and wish Sig hadn't discontinued the line. Edit to add: Sorry Boss, I got distracted by family stuff forgot to go back and combine those two posts! Thanks for doing it for me...This message has been edited. Last edited by: parabellum, ____________________________ Bill R. North Alabama _____________________________ Classic West German P-Series Fan... Hammer-Fired Only! | |||
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You have no idea how much this statement just bothered me. ![]() ![]() Take Care, Shoot Safe, Chris | |||
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[/QUOTE]You have no idea how much this statement just bothered me. ![]() ![]() Same, that can't be right | |||
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I had serial number 22x off the assembly line when they first came out. It was a turd. I sent it back to S&W and they replaced the barrel and sent it back with a free magazine. I washed my hands of the M&P for a number of years. I ended up buying a 2.0 compact after having a chance to shoot one. They really did a good job with the 2.0. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell | |||
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Wrong thread, gentlemen. | |||
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This saddens me, a lot. I'm glad I stuck with the classic P-series sigs, the GSR and a P365. Very bad management and engineering decisions are killing my favorite pistol brand. Tony. Owner, TonyBen, LLC, Type-07 FFL www.tonybenm14.com (Site under construction). e-mail: tonyben@tonybenm14.com | |||
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Starting to get temp bans in a number of USPSA matches. One of the guys in my shooting group just got this. With the Sig Sauer header and sent through their proprietary match interface Practiscore, it's got some extra zing to it. ![]() ______________________________________________ "If the truth shall kill them, let them die.” Endeavoring to master the subtle art of the grapefruit spoon. | |||
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Dick Fairburn's followup, as promised. The video is 47 minutes long. I have watched the entire video. You can start viewing the video at the 18 minute mark and I recommend watching it all the way until the end. Mr. Fairburn offers his observations and opinions on the reasons for the uncommanded discharges, and on SIG-Sauer's reaction to these incidents. He recounts an interesting story about problems with early 40 caliber Glocks and WMLs, and Glock's exemplary customer service. The story is told with a purpose. SIGforum has been in existence for more than 25 years. We are one of the pioneering firearms discussion forums extant and we are, needless to say, fans of SIG-Sauer firearms, but we are not "fan boys" in the pejorative sense. When problems and issues arise, as they do, inevitably, we tend towards a clinical view of matters. It gives us no pleasure, what is happening now with SIG and the P320. We wish all of this were not so. We wish, too, that the drop-safe issue had never existed. I say this most sincerely, and having said this, I urge all interested parties to listen to what Mr. Fairburn has to say on matters. | |||
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I have been waiting for that video to drop. I tend to like Dick Fairburn and his level headed down to earth insights about most of the things he speaks on. Take Care, Shoot Safe, Chris | |||
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Wow! That was very well put together! As to Sig and their lack of response to this current issue I am reminded of the way they handled the drop safe problem. Seems to be the same imo. Deny deny deny until they can’t then deal with it. As pointed out in the video sadly it will be hard for Sig to recover however they decide to deal with it. | |||
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The only thing I would question is his interpretation of "dead trigger" | |||
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Excellent video and pretty much everything I have been thinking/saying. Only minor faux Paux was the SIGPro/2040/2009/2022 (whatever it was called out of the gate) was their first polymer pistol and a damn good gun at that. What amazes me about companies is the tendency for long term destruction of reputation for short term gain. While I doubt this will bankrupt SIG I can guarantee you it will cost them a generation of sales. I mean hell folks are still salty over Bill Ruger and Smith and Wesson and Bill is long dead. Gun folk have long, long, long memories and no matter how much of a turn around SIG has with their future products and service a generation of us may never trust them again. Take Care, Shoot Safe, Chris | |||
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