Amazed how the press today is more interested in finding dirt to expose the US and weaken it's ability to negotiate with Iran.

It's almost like they would love to see Trump lose in the negotiation battle with Iran.

They used to call that treason....

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It's almost like they would love to see Trump lose in the negotiation battle with Iran.

That’s more like it with the corrupt media.

US strikes Iran in retaliation for Strait of Hormuz cargo ship attack
The strikes follow Iran's launching of a one-way attack drone at the Singapore-flagged M/V Ever Lovely cargo ship along the Omani coast as it exited the Strait of Hormuz.


The United States conducted military strikes against Iranian targets on Friday in retaliation for Iran's attack against a cargo ship in the Strait of Hormuz on Thursday, US Central Command (CENTCOM) announced on X/Twitter.

US Vice President JD Vance said of the strikes that "violence will be met with violence," in an X post on Saturday, noting that Iran can "pick up the phone" if it has "disagreements about how the MoU is being applied."

Targets included Iranian missile and drone storage locations, as well as coastal radar sites, CENTCOM stated.



Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said on Saturday that it attacked several US military targets in retaliation for the US strikes, according to Iranian state media.

The IRGC did not provide details on the US positions it targeted in the region.

In this picture obtained from Iran's ISNA news agency on June 18, 2026, vessels are seen anchored in Bandar Abbas along the Strait of Hormuz.
In this picture obtained from Iran's ISNA news agency on June 18, 2026, vessels are seen anchored in Bandar Abbas along the Strait of Hormuz.

The IRGC statement came after the semi-official ISNA news agency published an earlier statement it said was from the IRGC, declaring the force's response to the US attack would be "swift and decisive," before later deleting the statement.

Iran: Trump shows 'no commitment' to negotiations, ceasefire
Also on Saturday, the head of the Iranian Parliament's National Security Committee accused Trump of showing "no commitment to the principles of negotiation or the ceasefire."

He added that the "reckless violation of the ceasefire" will lead to "regret and retreat" from the US.

According to CENTCOM, the US strikes follow Iran's launching of a one-way attack drone at the Singapore-flagged M/V Ever Lovely cargo ship along the Omani coast as it exited the Strait of Hormuz.

"The unwarranted aggression against commercial shipping by Iranian forces clearly violated the ceasefire," said CENTCOM. "Furthermore, Iran’s dangerous behavior undermined freedom of navigation as commerce increasingly flows through the vital international trade corridor."

CENTCOM forces continue to provide safe passage coordination and support to commercial vessels transiting the strait," CENTCOM added. "The US military remains present and vigilant to ensure all aspects of the agreement with Iran are adhered to, obeyed, and in full force and effect."

Trump: Cargo ship survived Iran's attack
The strikes come after US President Donald Trump hinted at an American response to Iran's attack, saying "you’ll find out" when asked if there would be consequences for Tehran.

Trump said on Truth Social that a drone had hit the upper deck of the Singaporean Cargo Ship, causing damage, but the ship was reportedly able to "proceed on its way."

“We knocked down three other drones,” said Trump, calling the attack a "foolish" violation of the current ceasefire agreement.

The United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) confirmed that the cargo vessel was hit on its starboard side by an unidentified projectile on Thursday, damaging the bridge. No casualties or environmental impact have been reported as a result of the attack.

https://www.jpost.com/middle-e...-news/article-900622

Set loose the dogs of war fully off the leash. These sumbitches will NEVER stop FA. They most certainly need to FO what the stone age is really like.

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Targets included Iranian missile and drone storage locations, as well as coastal radar sites, CENTCOM stated.

Goddamn! Should have been taken out while the going was hot. Why the fuck are they still around?

EXACTLY. WTF.

They can pop stuff up like that and move things around in short order. That's why

As Allenby said in ‘Lawrence of Arabia’ “pound them, Charlie, pound them!!”

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
They can pop stuff up like that and move things around in short order. That's why

Yet, somehow they were sitting ducks this time.

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Originally posted by P220forever:
Set loose the dogs of war fully off the leash

This should have been apparent going into this. You are either prepared to end these people or leave them the fuck alone or they will drag you into this quagmire of back and forth bullshit of promises made and broken. Only they can win the bullshit battle.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:

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Originally posted by P220forever:
Set loose the dogs of war fully off the leash

This should have been apparent going into this. You are either prepared to end these people or leave them the fuck alone or they will drag you into this quagmire of back and forth bullshit of promises made and broken. Only they can win the bullshit battle.

4,3,2,1

Although some people believe it’s impossible that our military could ever run low on ordnance, is it possible the Internet authorities are mistaken and there are concerns about how much is being used and how quickly despite the existence of legitimate targets?

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
Although some people believe it’s impossible that our military could ever run low on ordnance, is it possible the Internet authorities are mistaken and there are concerns about how much is being used and how quickly despite the existence of legitimate targets?

Quite impossible to know unless you’re at the top levels. They could do a “triage” and import some ordnance from other parts of the world although they probably wouldn’t like to do that.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
They can pop stuff up like that and move things around in short order. That's why

It's like playing a game of whac-a-mole.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
Although some people believe it’s impossible that our military could ever run low on ordnance, is it possible the Internet authorities are mistaken and there are concerns about how much is being used and how quickly despite the existence of legitimate targets?

I noticed this argument in the media early on, and thought is was just the normal bias. It started to seep in to the people that I listen to. Started looking around and learned Raytheon makes 90 Tomahawks per year.

THAAD interceptors are made by Lockheed Martin, and 96 are made per year.

So, with this information the low magazine argument is believable.

One good thing from all this is we now know that we must alter procurement for weapons systems. And, there are many companies out there working on just that. Can't remember the name, but I heard one CEO of a company making cruise missiles. One costs 50k and can be assembled with tools you can get at Home Depot. Three different warheads. Range is 900 miless. You can swap out an electronic warfare package, and intelligence package. Sounds pretty slick.

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Originally posted by goose5:

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
Although some people believe it’s impossible that our military could ever run low on ordnance, is it possible the Internet authorities are mistaken and there are concerns about how much is being used and how quickly despite the existence of legitimate targets?

I noticed this argument in the media early on, and thought is was just the normal bias. It started to seep in to the people that I listen to. Started looking around and learned Raytheon makes 90 Tomahawks per year.

THAAD interceptors are made by Lockheed Martin, and 96 are made per year.

So, with this information the low magazine argument is believable.

One good thing from all this is we now know that we must alter procurement for weapons systems.

So is that how many the DO make, or that they CAN make? It makes a difference...

Perhaps 'altering our procurement for weapons systems' means we simply need to revise those defense contracts and/or just purchase more of them.

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Raytheon makes 90 Tomahawks per year

Historically, Raytheon (an RTX subsidiary) has operated at a minimum sustainment rate of about 90 Tomahawk missiles per year. However, driven by increased global demand and heavy munitions usage in conflicts, Raytheon entered agreements with the U.S. Department of Defense to scale annual production to more than 1,000 missiles.

https://www.rtx.com/news/news-...rk-agreements-to-exp

That is good news indeed. How long will it take for the facilities to be built for this new production? I'm betting that doesn't happen over night. And, that doesn't help our current situation.

Also, we are scheduled to lose about 2,000 launch tubes with the retirement of the Ohio class SSGN's, and some CGN cruisers. Anybody know if these things can launched from smaller platforms?

^^ There is NO indication that the agreements to expand critical munition production will require 'facilities to be built' in order to do so.

From the RTX Press Release:

"RTX has invested heavily in capacity expansion to accelerate production of several critical munitions and will continue investing in capacity expansion and production acceleration projects. Production under these framework agreements will be completed at Raytheon facilities in Tucson, Ariz., Huntsville, Ala., and Andover, Mass."

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That is good news indeed. How long will it take for the facilities to be built for this new production? I'm betting that doesn't happen over night. And, that doesn't help our current situation.

Also, we are scheduled to lose about 2,000 launch tubes with the retirement of the Ohio class SSGN's, and some CGN cruisers. Anybody know if these things can launched from smaller platforms?

There are ZERO CGN's in the fleet and haven't been for a while, the "N" stands for nuclear. They are retiring the Ticonderoga AEGIS class cruisers(CG's) though, they are pretty long on the tooth. All the Arleigh Burke class destroyers can fire TLAMS, and some of the newer flights carry more than the original non-VLS cruiser load-outs. The VLS Tico's, pretty much every refurbished one floating, are a loss however.