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I have to believe that the combination of Israeli Intelligence and local dissidents has provided the location of military sites - - targets of opportunity. The problem for us is we avoid civilian, non-combatants damage to the extreme, while the Mullahs utilize them as shields. They locate military operations under/around hospitals, schools and apartment buildings, not giving a damn about civilian casualties! I have no idea how to work around that strategy! No quarter .308/.223 | |||
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You are correct and that we are not negotiating with the IRGC but rather they’re civilian government or whoever they’ve decided to put in charge of that now But the larger problem is the civilian government does not appear to have any control or influence over the IRGC which means that there’s no reason to expect them to abide by an agreement for which they’re not really a party | |||
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I see no way other than destruction of the power generating systems and transportation corridors. Without power, missiles cannot fly. Without power, radar won't work. Without corridors, weapons can't be moved from place to place. I am grateful for attempts to avoid total chaos in that backward and ill-behaved nation-state, but it is past time to finish this. ------- Trying to simplify my life... | |||
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Because of the asymmetric nature of the enemy themselves as well as their methods of fighting, I am not "not sure" what our options are... I'd say smoke everything related to military assets and ops. Why the hell is that so difficult ? POTUS has said that was already done, but obviously his hyperbole got ahead of the situation as it has unfolded. Good lord, we all pretty much knew this would happen, but I guess Trump had bigger plans, and who knows how it will turn out. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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Meeting on Tuesday in Doha. | |||
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This. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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I hope they leave the generating stations alone and go after the distribution networks. Bring down a few miles of strategic towers. Same with oil and gas. We are all going to need the major infrastructure assets. Go after the power. We are trying to decapitate the military structure and not the people. | |||
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^^^^^^ I’ve long thought similarly. And they can’t put women and children as human shields at all points of the power transmission system. Serious about crackers. | |||
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Perhaps consider an alternative explanation, all Iranian "leaders" don't know how to tell the truth, and are lying through their teeth. "Multiple groups" vying for power maybe, but one is hardly better than another. Power abhors a vacuum, let's hope they will be too busy fighting each other in an effort to gain control of their country than to worry about International complications. So far that hasn't been happening, to a large extent at least, but I'd guess some resolution is coming. I am sure that Israel is fanning the flames of dissent, but why aren't the Kurds, and Iraqis stepping in to take advantage of this mess? Not to mention the great unwashed Iranian populace? I can only surmise that the mullahs believe they have things more under control than we'd like to think. | |||
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You all do realize that Iran had a democratically elected government in 1953 that got the funny idea that their oil was their oil. But the imperial democracies of UK and US decided that it was not Iran's oil and overthrew said democratically elected government and gave them the Shah instead. Not very democratic at the least. As far as Iran's current form of governance - again, read 'Going to Tehran' to educate yourselves, before spewing off talking points fed to us for at least 47 years. We do not care about other's form of governance as long as they bow every morning toward Washington DC. -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. Ayn Rand "He gains votes ever and anew by taking money from everybody and giving it to a few, while explaining that every penny was extracted from the few to be giving to the many." Ogden Nash from his poem - The Politician | |||
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