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That was indeed J&J that had the bad batch about a week ago, but the lot used at Dick's was the same as used by Duke Health, who is reporting no unusual incidence of reactions. | |||
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Yea, that's what they SAY. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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If required, are they assuming all risks associated with it? 1 in a whatever chance it hurts you, possibly permanently. Will they foot the bill if you're one of the unlucky ones? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Saw a picture today of the disclaimer and hold harmless everyone must sign before taking the vaccines ... basically they all state that if you die from the shot your family has no recourse. The drug companies are untouchable and admitting that they have not fully tested these vaccines. I've had Covid-19 twice ... rough the first time, really rough the second time. I'll take my chances that my body has now built up its own defense system but I am not taking the vaccine. None of them. Not for awhile at least. ___________________________________________________________ In a nation where anything goes ... everything eventually will. | |||
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Get an attorney | |||
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For what purpose, to see if there are longer term negative effects the longer you wait ? Or another reason ? I'm not questioning your decision, just the factors and preferences you're weighing. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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What kind, a corporate law attorney ? Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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| Run Silent Run Deep  |
The key word is recovery...as in, IF you recover. _____________________________ Pledge allegiance or pack your bag! The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher Spread my work ethic, not my wealth | |||
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| 10mm is The Boom of Doom  |
Good grief. This thread is about vaccines, not who is "requiring" me to get vaccinated and whether or not I have legal recourse. Maybe I won't be given the plumb job assignments. Maybe I'll be dis-invited to the family reunion. Maybe I won't get anymore nookie from the wife. It doesn't matter. I need to choose among the three vaccines. That is my choice. I am asking you, my invisible friends, to help me make it. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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I wouldn’t believe a damn thing Pfizer says. They have been fined in the past for lying about the effectiveness of their vaccines. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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Did you read the post you quoted? "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Fenris, I was in the "not me camp" until I had a long discussion with my trusted primary care Doc. The developing data showing a high incidence (70%) of irreparable heart damage in patients who suffered significant Covid19 symptoms flipped me into the "okay vax me" column. At my age and with my medical issues I simply didn't need to add such a risk. We discussed the various options. He had the Moderna series (he's ~ 62 years of age) which is what I ultimately went with. My 2nd shot is scheduled mid-month. Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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| 7.62mm Crusader |
I wish they had a smaller needle. That thing looks like it might go right through my little arm. I am 62 also bald1 and will get which ever they are useing. | |||
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No, it’s not the same as what many people consider “traditional” vaccines. Those use a dead or deactivated form of the actual virus. In other words, the shot injects the virus into you (hopefully it really is dead) in order to build up antibodies. The new vaccines basically contain generic code instructions to make a harmless part of the virus (the spike protein) in order to stimulate the production of antibodies. The difference is in how the code instructions are transferred. The J&J viral vector includes the instruction in a modified cold virus that’s said to be harmless. The mRNA vaccines hold the instructions in a lipid shell that dissolves in the body. The difference is in the delivery method. None of them do it the old way of injecting you with the virus. Personally, I’d rather do mRNA because they don’t inject you with a virus. Even though the J&J doesn’t use the COVID virus, they are still injecting you with a virus that they hope is harmless. | |||
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Res ipsa loquitur |
At will employment states can. Your employer can require it or you are fired. __________________________ | |||
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It was in a facility that was in the final stages of ramping up to start producing the vaccine. The vaccines weren’t authorized for use yet. That said, they make vaccines in batches running in the millions. If a bad batch had gotten through, it would have been more widespread than a dozen people at one site on one day. | |||
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Because my wife has a compromised immune system I got the Vaccine. I did my research and got the J&J because it was one dose and non-rmna. I got it and went back to work. Felt really nothing either at the injection site or physically. That would be my choice, and it was because I was educated in my choice. | |||
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Moderna. Had pain at injection site at the first. The second, I could have slept all day and my joints hurt. That lasted one day. Was in the Army medical field for 27 years. My wife was a nurse for 50 years. We had no issue getting the shots. Don’t want the shot? That’s your responsibility. Do Not make it mine. “ The work of destruction is quick, easy and exhilarating; the work of creation is slow, laborious and dull. | |||
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Pfizer. Mom worked there for 35+ years and even though Mom has been gone for years Dad still has Pfizer stock. It’s least bad because the dividends pay his green fees (ie golf). Dad, Dad’s GF, and I all got the Pfizer vaccine. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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| Drill Here, Drill Now |
I got to attend a webinar from the department head for National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine. The soon to be released Baylor & Texas Children’s Hospital vaccine will be the traditional vaccine made similar to how the polio vaccine was made. Supposed to be be about $1 per shot and can be made in the 3rd world. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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