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Border security is going to become an absolute necessity in the coming years - basic economics will drive the push to the states. We need closed borders with controlled access through secure access points. Need to start planning and building now.

Canada and U.S. Need to sync up on on border controls - they are an ally and should be an asset if we don't make enemies of each other. Mexico and south - sliding downhill fast. I have employees in South America and Central - the all want out to the U.S. And fear for their families. Brazil's socialist policies of last decade have created a horrific mess. Each country has their own story and each will need to rely on their own good people to pull themselves out. We can and should help - but not by uncontrolled immigration.

I think Trump gets and is willing to confront the complexities and is not willing to simply put some paint on a rotting fence and call it done. Every other politician on both sides of the aisle knows no other way.





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And name me one advocate of a wall who said we should build it and then not monitor it. Thats what the US Border Patrol will be doing. To write a wall off as useless is ignorant. It is but one tool in the tool box. If memory serves the Russians were pretty successful at building a wall in East Germany. Cut WAY down on those trying to cross. So I guess they do work.

The Russians are willing to shoot if it meets their needs. I haven't seen anything in the news about refugees flooding into Russia.
 
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Let's not forget that the process is really just getting started. Over the weekend, I had the fortune to attend a speech by Ted Cruz. The author below recently attended one by Ben Carson.

The next debate is Wed. night. We will learn more about these candidates as the process unfolds. I hope The Donald quickly figures out that his fellow Republican candidates are not the real enemy... and learns The Eleventh Commandment (Ronald Reagan): "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican."

Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum: I Am Trump and They Are Dumb
By Doris O'Brien

The summer of primary madness is about to be replaced by the autumn of primal anger. On one side of the political divide, Her Heinous Hillary's coronation has been put on hold. On the other, Jeb Bush – the presumed front-runner once feared most by Democrats – has been smeared most by one of his own party, and now languishes in a disappointing third place in the GOP race.

We're told it's early in the game and anything can happen. I'd say it already has. We never expected anti-establishment sentiment on such a formidable scale. For years, pollsters have registered a mood of discontent regarding the direction in which America is headed. And while being exercised is good for the body politic, who will best channel it? And in whose favor will the scales be tipped?

Enter self-proclaimed Energizer Bunny and wheeler-dealer Donald Trump, the timeless, rhyme-less Muhammad Ali of the presidential boxing ring. He appears to be at the top of his game, if only we knew what his game is! Since he cannot resort to shouting "You're fired" at the rest of the Republican bench, he minimizes them through verbal abuse, recently badmouthing Carly Fiorina as an unattractive woman.

Trump continues to ride high while dealing low blows. Governor Bobby Jindal was another recent victim, though the two have never met and Jindal's candidacy represents no serious threat. But when shredding one's opposition causes no immediate consequences, why resist the urge?

Initially, I found Trump's outspokenness refreshing. He kicked aside the hypocrisy of political correctness and touched a nerve in America's psyche. He courageously tackled the third-rail issues. I even forgave him his outrageous celebrity, figuring it might take a larger-than-life presence to beat Hillary. I admired the way he waded into the crowds of well-wishers. I liked how he boldly proclaimed that he would make America great again.

But after a while, bold got old. It started with Trump's dismissing John McCain as a non-hero. Then he went after perky Fox News debate moderator Megyn Kelly. Being outlandish accorded him outsized press coverage. Now clearly the front-runner, he strides around like the giant in Jack and the Beanstalk, roaring, "Fee-fi-fo-fum, I am Trump and they are dumb."

Charles Krauthammer is no fan, so Trump declared him highly overrated. Ditto for Marco Rubio, who was dismissed as not being all that great and a traitor to his mentor, Jeb Bush. Trump went so far as to question Dr. Carson's surgical skills! Even when he describes someone as a "nice person," that can quickly become the kiss of death.

By all rights, I should by now have written off The Donald , except for some strange, intangible quality about him that nurtures in others the gift that keeps on forgiving. It's the way Joe Biden supporters shrug off his gaffes and grabs as nothing more than innocent misbehaving. Such guys are basically good, the rationalization goes; they just crave attention. It's always been Joe just being Joe. Is it now The Donald just being The Donald?

Despite his impressive showing in recent polls, Trump is by no means the inevitable Republican choice. At some point, his personal currency could plummet in value from refreshing candor to resentful incivility, the more so for having been squandered on savaging other Republicans.

And then there's Dr. Ben Carson. Recently I joined a crowd at the packed-to-the-rafters rally for him in the Anaheim Convention Center, just around the corner from Disneyland. In fact, the proceedings exuded some of the same welcomed innocence of the Magic Kingdom. No bombast. No bluster. No backbiting. I left the event feeling oddly at peace with the world, though the good doctor's view of its current condition was anything but cheery.

Dr. Carson is the healer to Trump's wheeler-dealer. Both exceptionally bright men are running to restore America's greatness. Each stirs the emotions in his own way. Together they are to be credited with quickening the interest of Americans in the political process.

The next Republican debate will likely draw as many millions of viewers as the last. And regardless of the personal feelings among those on stage, these debates could be a boon for Republicans in general. Eventually the numbers of wannabes will be whittled down. But right now I am proud of the healthy lineup of outstanding men (and woman) coming from different beginnings and ending up in a battle to represent the GOP in next year's crucial run for the White House.

By contrast, Debbie Wasserman Schultz of the DNC has decreed that the Democratic Party debates will be strictly limited to six. It's quite astounding, really, when a party consciously eschews the kind of free national coverage a debate makes possible. Her decision is driven by fear of overexposing the mediocrity and failed agenda of her party's Stone Age candidates.

They're all beatable. All that Republicans have to do is figure out how best to do it. If Trump turns out to be the party's pick, will we rise to the challenge, cleanse our political palates of any lingering bad taste, and try him again for the first time?

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com...b.html#ixzz3lix52pC8



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I hope The Donald quickly figures out that his fellow Republican candidates are not the real enemy.



I'm not so sure. Guys like Jeb may very well be the enemy.


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I'm not so sure. Guys like Jeb may very well be the enemy.


Actually, I think you are right!
Jeb and Hillary are interchangeable parts. They ought to be on the same ticket.

I just wish he wasn't so concerned about Carly's face or whether Ben Carson is a "decent" doctor.
As front runner, it's time for him to start talking more about what he will do as President, specifically... not just "I'll replace Obamacare with something terrific."
"It'll be great"

I'm thankful if he takes out Jeb.
That's what I've always hoped for from The Donald.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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If Don is the bright and shiny pin wheel in the yard on a clear and sun shiny day , that a lot of people are staring at in amazement while the breeze is spinning the blades of promise,

I gotta wonder what is going on else where in the yard that is not getting the attention that it deserves.

Is there any chance at all that he really has no intention at all of being president ?

and all of the hub bub is just some sort of
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As front runner, it's time for him to start talking more about what he will do as President, specifically... not just "I'll replace Obamacare with something terrific."
"It'll be great"



I can't say that I have ever paid that much attention in prior races, but is this the typical point in time that candidates start getting really specific?

I have heard get fairly specific on some things, but I haven't really seen it reported. Seems the media is more interested in who he's talking about than what he's talking about.


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Well, we are 6 months away from the primaries, so it's time to start hearing some specifics.

Trump stands head and shoulders above the rest on illegal immigration.
He has started to lay out a tax plan, but it's hazy. He has a prior love of Hillarycare and Obamacare socialized medicine. Supposedly, he's seen the light.... but he's very vague on healthcare.
I'm a free market guy, so I want to repeal it.



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I hope The Donald quickly figures out that his fellow Republican candidates are not the real enemy.



I'm not so sure. Guys like Jeb may very well be the enemy.


I would have to agree
 
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They are the enemy, because they present themselves as being on our side. Jeb is not. At all. The (R) after his name signifies nothing. Not any more than "Hillary Clinton (R)" would signify.

I heard about 10 minutes of Rush today, and the point he was making is that we now have government-- both parties-- against the people.

It's an astonishing situation to be in in America.

I have no confidence that Ben Carson would change anything at all.

Yes, I believe that Donald Trump would, and is a serious threat to the powers that be.

If you wondered why there is such an imposing array against him-- both parties, the entire MSM, including Fox, all the pundits, left and right.

That is why.


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Originally posted by chellim1:Supposedly, he's seen the light.... but he's very vague on healthcare.
I'm a free market guy, so I want to repeal it.


Same here. I want .gov COMPLETELY out of healthcare. However, it's painfully obvious that the Repubs want to keep Obamacare.

So, if my choices are
1) Democrat. ( Obamacare )
2) Republican ( " )
3) TrumpCare

I'll try Trumpcare. At least there is the possibility that Trump could hire professionals to run an efficient healthcare model. No chance of that at all with lifelong politicians.
 
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As front runner, it's time for him to start talking more about what he will do as President, specifically... not just "I'll replace Obamacare with something terrific."
"It'll be great"



I can't say that I have ever paid that much attention in prior races, but is this the typical point in time that candidates start getting really specific?

I have heard get fairly specific on some things, but I haven't really seen it reported. Seems the media is more interested in who he's talking about than what he's talking about.


That's because he has no real plans, at least not realistic plans. Hope I'm wrong, but he appears to be nothing but a big bag of hot air to me. I see him running away with the nomination and I hen getting destroyed by whoever the dems put up.


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I hope he rips apart the worthless GOP.


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I hope he rips apart the worthless GOP.
~~~Go Cruz~~~

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Yes..... Go Cruz!



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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I hope he rips apart the worthless GOP.
~~~Go Cruz~~~

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Yes..... Go Cruz!


Well IMO, Cruz is by far the best choice, it in this day and age of flash and big talk over substance, he has been ruled out, unless of course Trump really sticks his foot in it before the Primaries instead of after.


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... big bag of hot air to me. [/QUOTE]

If he wins the nomination I will either vote Socialist (AKA Democrat) for the first time in my life, or will sit out the presidential election.
 
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... big bag of hot air to me. [/QUOTE]

If he wins the nomination I will either vote Socialist (AKA Democrat) for the first time in my life, or will sit out the presidential election.[/QUOTE]

Well I definitely won't vote for Hillary or Sanders, but I might also sit out for the first time since being old enough to vote. What's the difference between a liberal pretending to be a conservative and a liberal that just admits it? I will still listen, I just have not been convinced yet that Trump has really changed his colors.


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... big bag of hot air to me.

If he wins the nomination I will either vote Socialist (AKA Democrat) for the first time in my life, or will sit out the presidential election.


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Whose side of the Rio Grande does the wall get built? I agree with the previous poster in making life so tough for them, that they go back. Crack down on the entitlement abuse, crack down on employers, make it hard to come and stay here. Create a psychic wall.


A good idea. How about this one?

Give them all 30 days to evacuate to where they came from, or at least out of the USA. After 30 days they will be deported and permanently barred from any legal entry, for any reason for life, as well as their families.

Those who voluntarily leave, they can apply for legal residence based on background checks, etc. Legal immigrants severely limited in quantity and country of origin.


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If we build the wall, they'll figure out how to go over it, under it, through it, and around it. There are sections of wall already up, and they still make it through.


About 500 lbs of TNT detonated on the ground above said tunnels will solve that.



Due to my job, I am definitely convinced that they do burrow tunnels under our non-existent wall at this current time.

Technology definitely exists to detect it though. Big Grin


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