Assange strikes again.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...esta-third-data-dump

The problem is you'll never see any of these leaked emails on any media outlet but the conservative ones. So.nobody sees it and your preaching to the choir

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Originally posted by Lord Vaalic:
The problem is you'll never see any of these leaked emails on any media outlet but the conservative ones. So.nobody sees it and your preaching to the choir

Exactly correct. Over 80% of the voting public never knows anything about all of these things. They know only what the liberal media wants them to know. They get their entire opinion on any topic from that small screen in their living room at 6:30 pm each evening.

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Originally posted by btanchors:
One point I would like to raise, regarding Trump's prospects of winning this election: It appears Trump is still drawing very large crowds at his events. Hillary is not - only a couple/few hundred at most.

Does anyone have actual data to show this is still the case? It looks like Trump's event in PA last night was heavily attended, with a couple of thousand unable to enter because it was full.

Are Hillary's events still poorly attended?

This could be the strongest objective data indicating who's REALLY likely to win this election...

Unfortunately Hildabeast's rally in OH yesterday apparently drew a crowd of 18.5K potential voters.

OK, so he shouldn't release any more emails?

You guys are killing me with this terminal pessimism. Damn.

It's a bad thing that he released these emails. It doesn't help one bit and I'm sure someone will now tell us how releasing these emails hurts our cause, right?

Right? Is that what you guys want us to agree with?

Para I agree completely. We should be celebrating a big debate win, more interest than I've seen in the last 2 elections, and somebody spreading the dirt on the entire DNC and their web of corruption. I know losing to Obama twice was horrible but we finally have a candidate that wants to win, and win big.

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Originally posted by Dakor:

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Originally posted by btanchors:
One point I would like to raise, regarding Trump's prospects of winning this election: It appears Trump is still drawing very large crowds at his events. Hillary is not - only a couple/few hundred at most.

Does anyone have actual data to show this is still the case? It looks like Trump's event in PA last night was heavily attended, with a couple of thousand unable to enter because it was full.

Are Hillary's events still poorly attended?

This could be the strongest objective data indicating who's REALLY likely to win this election...

Unfortunately Hildabeast's rally in OH yesterday apparently drew a crowd of 18.5K potential voters.

From media sources:

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That's the attendance figure provided by the U.S. Secret Service through Clinton's campaign. Though some reporters estimated a lower crowd count, the rally was unusually large compared to other events Clinton has held in Ohio this election season.

Most reports estimated the crowd at about 7 thousand. That's huge for Hitlery but about 1/2 of what Trump sees every day. Hitlery usually draws under 500. Note that the coverage of the Hitlery event was very careful to keep a tight crop on her and never allow the "huge" crowd to be seen.

http://www.cleveland.com/open/..._draws_record_c.html

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Originally posted by sdy:
One of the worst things that obama and the Dems have done is to systematically divide the country.

blacks against whites
Hispanics against whites
women against men

The one common target for the Dems to demonize is white men.

It has been planned out, organized, and executed.

Very true. The campaign against working white men has been going on for a long time and is getting worse.

I think what Mr. Trump has accomplished is amazing. He's fighting the media, the RINOS, the Clinton machine and uninformed comatose Americans. His last battle will be something he can't control, widespread voter fraud.

Keep up the good fight Mr Trump! Keep telling the truth!!

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by JALLEN:

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Originally posted by jljones:

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Originally posted by braillediver:
Yeah we've destroyed the republican party- They used to be a complacent bitch that could be easily manipulated by the msm.

The thing about it is, they HAVE destroyed the Republican party. They are the roll over party. Everything BHO has asked for since they have been in majority, BHO has gotten.

I feel that if Trump were to lose this bid, in two or four years it won't matter who you vote for. The damage will be done by Klinton, and it will take likely a generation to come back, if that is even possible.

The "compromise" party of cowards, led by Ryan, basically has taken the attitude of "hey, we'll only shoot you three times in the chest, the democrats wanted to shoot you six times. We're here for you, reelect us."

I'm not sure this is accurate.

Isn't it true that the House has voted many times to enact the Republican platform measures, only to be thwarted when those bills have not been voted in in the Senate, which spares the President from having to veto them?

Let's talk about specifics here. I believe the repeal of Obamacare was approved on several occasions in the House. I seem to recall a couple of budget items that were passed.

There are probably others.

Poor Jimmy. ERMEGHAD DEY TRIED!!!!!!!

How about a simple civics lesson, shall we? Who controls the power of the purse?

To become law, bills must be passed by both Houses and approved by the President, or his veto overridden. This applies to budget bills, with the proviso that spending/appropriations bills must originate in the House.

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For $64,000, Obamacare is useless if what is defunded?

You are over paying for the worthless answer to that irrelevant question. If it could be defunded, it would be.

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For far too long, we have bought into the dog and pony show of "they tried, dog gone it". There is plenty more they (House and Senate) can be doing. But, they chose to do ceremonial things, then throw their hands in the air that they tried. A lot of this that is going on in Washington could be fixed, if the party wanted to do so. They just simply chose not to do so.

And apparently, people believe them and defend them.........

Well, Mr. Genius of Legislative Procedures, perhaps you will contact Mr. Ryan and Senator McConnell and point out the path to accomplish all these great and wonderful things you and so many of us earnestly desire, and which your special insights have allowed you to discern, even though these experienced legislators and their staffs have missed it in the fog of war.

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Bonus question- If what you say is true, why is it that Paul Ryan and co are trying desperately to scuttle their candidate's chances of winning back the White House? Why is Ryan trying to hand the White House to Hillary if that pesky veto stuff is all that's been stopping them?

There are many people out there, mature, loyal, responsible, intelligent, God fearing good citizens who do not admire many of Trump's ahhh, attributes, and resist casting a vote for him on that basis. For some, disapproval of Trump's activities is not enough to override loathing of Hillary's dishonest malevolence. Those folks aren't so much voting FOR Trump as they are voting AGAINST HilLIARy.

I happen to feel that Trump would not be where he is but for Hillary, that many are supporting Trump as the best chance to keep Hillary away from the WH, despite misgivings as to his other "qualities." Many of us supported other candidates. When most voters winnowed the choice to Trump, we went along, if for no other reason Anybody But Hillary.

The veto is not all that is stopping Ryan. The bills the House approves must be passed in the Senate, before being vetoed. As you might know, the Senate's procedural rules can make that very problematic. It is extremely frustrating, but one of our weaknesses is a fondness for playing by the rules.

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Originally posted by Russ59:
As a Mormon, many of my family are disgusted by Trump's character and behavior and would t even consider Trump in a normal election. But as we've learned over the past year, this isn't a normal year. Trump will get enough votes in Utah. However here in California I have the luxury of voting for Trump or an independent. HRC will carry CA regardless.

I live in CA, and I will vote for Trump because he is heads and shoulders above everyone else on the ballot.

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I live in CA, and I will vote for Trump because he is heads and shoulders above everyone else on the ballot.

Nobody can say you didn't do all you could. Unlike some people.

http://nypost.com/2016/10/11/e...-blasios-id-program/

The Manhattan Democratic representative on the city’s Board of Elections was caught on a secret video slamming Mayor Bill de Blasio’s municipal ID program as contributing to “all kinds of fraud” — including at the polls.

“It’s absurd. There is a lot of fraud. Not just voter fraud, all kinds of fraud . . . This is why I get more conservative as I get older.”

“they bus people around to vote . . . They put them in a bus and go poll site to poll site.”

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Originally posted by Russ59:
As a Mormon, many of my family are disgusted by Trump's character and behavior and would t even consider Trump in a normal election. But as we've learned over the past year, this isn't a normal year. Trump will get enough votes in Utah. However here in California I have the luxury of voting for Trump or an independent. HRC will carry CA regardless.

I am a non-Mormon in Utah.

I think it is very reasonable and justified to be repulsed by certain aspects of Trump's character. But I still don't understand the absolute refusal of some people to "support" him on moral grounds.

For this reason: We are not endorsing a person's entire being and elevating them to a position of moral leadership. We are making a political choice for the person we really think will have a better effect on the future of America. Not necessary promising a perfect or "most moral" America, but a BETTER America, moving in the opposite direction to the direction of amoral-liberal-nanny-state-socialism that we are now headed in and we know Hillary would continue to promote.

Anyone who would withhold a vote AGAINST Hillary on a moral pretense is really just self-congratulating their own ego for an assumed moral superiority. They can be wallowing in their self-satisfaction as the country decays into oblivion.

The choice is clear and there are only two that have any chance of winning.

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Originally posted by sdy:
http://nypost.com/2016/10/11/e...-blasios-id-program/

The Manhattan Democratic representative on the city’s Board of Elections was caught on a secret video slamming Mayor Bill de Blasio’s municipal ID program as contributing to “all kinds of fraud” — including at the polls.

“It’s absurd. There is a lot of fraud. Not just voter fraud, all kinds of fraud . . . This is why I get more conservative as I get older.”

“they bus people around to vote . . . They put them in a bus and go poll site to poll site.”

I wonder how much longer he'll be around?

^^^ dead on crom.

Orrrrr.... we could wait for the mother teresa/abe lincoln/jesus christ/ronald reagen/buddha reincarnate to run for office while continually letting the liberals piss away our freedoms year by year.#sarcasm

Voter fraud.

Wonder if enough people could covertly collect recorded images/video of such things.

Such as the "bussing of voters to more than one plooing place and them voting more than once", and other blatent incidents of fraud.

Would there or coudl there be any constitutional crisis made and any repercussions from such disclosure?

If there were a dozen or so actual events in differnt areas that showed this activity, what is the best or worst we could hope to see as a result?

And, I am heart attack serious when I say that I would support that voter fraud be a capitol offence.

It is the most egregious form of treason, like a termite infestation or a cancer, the damage done in secret and with the sole purpose to steal from all, the liberty, freedom and very core of this nation's soul.

Crom, you are spot on in your summation and I am sharing that (with credit due of course) to a few folks that are still waffling....

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The veto is not all that is stopping Ryan. The bills the House approves must be passed in the Senate, before being vetoed.

Correct. Yet I would put forth Ryan has had the luxury of passing bills to placate House constituencies while knowing full well and good McConnell and crew would insure they died a quick death in the senate. So together, Ryan and McConnell have played the political game with their voters while giving the worst president in American history almost everything he wanted.

How many vetos has Obama penned to date? By my count, 12. By comparison, Bill Clinton endured 37 during his two terms. So how does the most divisive, confrontational, anti-American, president in at least the last 40/50 years encounter only a third the challenges Bill Clinton did, on spending and legislation that would have been unacceptable at any time in American history? McConnell all but assumed the role Harry Reid played in insuring Obama didn't have to use his 'pen' to oppose the GOP. McConnell's changing the senate rules back from what Reid did, coupled with the thin senate majority he had, virtually guaranteed the Dem's would have everything they needed to thwart the Republican senate on almost everything. Is this playing by the rules, or rolling over to the enemy?

I think justjoe put it very well earlier in this thread. Ryan and crew had better wake up to the reality that no matter who wins this election, the GOP in its previous form is dead. And it will die specifically due to the utter worthlessness of the party and its leaders.