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Originally posted by 46and2:
I must be satisfied if some old grandma took after his royal hiney with a switch. ^

Don't... swat... Mess... swat... Around... swat... With.... swat... The People... swat... swat...

What a pleasant thought.

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2 new polls out today for Wisconsin.One has Trump +10 and the other Cruz +5.Very strange.

I am convinced that the news media is trying to influence the election, rather than just report on it.

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Originally posted by Himiko:

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2 new polls out today for Wisconsin.One has Trump +10 and the other Cruz +5.Very strange.

I am convinced that the news media is trying to influence the election, rather than just report on it.

You must have just got here.

A few weeks/months ago I thought there would be some trick by the RNC to screw Trump or Cruz out of the nomination, but now I am not sure. I am wondering how the delegates get picked in states other than CO. In CO we elect delegates to the State, Congressional District and County Assembly at our Caucuses in March. I am going to all 3. At the Congressional Assembly is where we vote for who the National Delegates will be. Colorado has 37 delegates. 34 are elected at the CD Assemblies and 3 are appointed.

There are a large number of people who are vying for the few spots to the National convention. Each person gets 30 seconds or something on stage to make their pitch. We will vote for them based on a few factors. The delegate I will be voting for will state WHO they are supporting.

I point this out because I don't see HOW the RNC can bring in their own "anointed" individual, i.e. not Cruz or Trump. I can guarantee you that the person we send to the convention will NOT vote for this "anointed" person. They still need the votes and the votes are made up of individuals from each state.

Maybe it's because I don't have my tin foil hat on today, but I just don't see how someone who has not been part of the primary process is going to get the 1237 votes from the delegates.

Am I missing something? How are the National delegates chosen in your state? Hopefully this isn't a big thread drift. I can make my own topic if necessary.

Here's a link to a story that tells how CO elects delegates.
http://blogs.denverpost.com/th...p/125427/?source=rss

^ as I understand it, it's about influencing who the delegates are (by way of encouraging certain sorts and certain specific people to try to be a delegate, rather than some crooked process or puppeteers) and then persuading some of them to vote a certain way (whether approached by the party, a candidate, or otherwise). Typical lobbying, in a sense.

it doesn't have to be overtly crooked or conspiratorial, it's more like the community organizing model, more like a subtle infiltration or twisted lobbying. I think the idea is that "they" are simply other delegates who are more aligned with the establishment or a certain candidate than not, perhaps covertly/silently until the votes come. "They" believe they're doing what's right, after all, "saving the country and party from nutjobs" in their minds.

I think that's what people are getting at, at least. It's plausible enough, on the surface. It only requires the actors to be party loyalists who either favor the status quo or don't like a particular candidate to justify them entering into a protection mode - to them.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by maximus_flavius:
How much more are we gonna take of this Preibus asshole?

What is it you think we might do to him?

Throw him the fuck out.

Who elects the RNC Chairman?

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Originally posted by justjoe:
""By the way, this is a nomination for the Republican Party," Priebus told 620 WTMJ in Wisconsin. "If you don't like the party, then sit down. The party is choosing a nominee."

http://www.washingtonexaminer....inee/article/2587688

"If you don't like the party, then sit down."

The Republican Party is dead.

It's certainly dead to me.

I've said exactly this before. It's the party picking its nominee, it's not "the will of the people" or whatever. If you think the R party is a democracy, you've been sadly mistaken. It's not. It's a political party. It'll end up doing what the party apparatchiks decide.

As for a Trump third-party run, I think he'd actually relish that. If he's the nominee, he suddenly has to fund a real race with other people's money. And the MSM will shut him down cold. But if he's a third-party spoiler, man, they'll continue to heap all this media attention on him, and he can continue to "self-fund."

That would be the dream scenario for him, I'm sure. I bet he'd love it.

And if the RNC decids they don't need my support to select a nominee, as they can do, they obviously don't need my support in the general. And that will be the choice I make.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Who elects the RNC Chairman?

I believe they are selected by the GOP committee members.

This link supposedly has a list of the current members:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...e#Chairman_elections

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Originally posted by Himiko:
I am convinced that the news media is trying to influence the election, rather than just report on it.

So, what’s the weather like on the planet you came from?

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Originally posted by sigfreund:

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Originally posted by Himiko:
I am convinced that the news media is trying to influence the election, rather than just report on it.

So, what’s the weather like on the planet you came from?

This post screams for a like button.

Priebus was just on Hannity and said it would be someone running. When pressed he said he believed it would be either Trump, Cruz, or Kasich. He also said it's ridiculous to think someone like Ryan would be able to steal it.

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Originally posted by Ackks:
Priebus was just on Hannity and said it would be someone running. When pressed he said he believed it would be either Trump, Cruz, or Kasich. He also said it's ridiculous to think someone like Ryan would be able to steal it.

Ryan has repeatedly said, lately, that he doesn't want it, and he won't be it, and that in his opinion as well - it needs to (ambiguously) be "someone currently running". Is Kasich their backup plan? We'll find out soon enough.

If Kasich is "their boy", I'll REALLY have to hold my nose to pull the lever for that jack-wagon.

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
If Kasich is "their boy", I'll REALLY have to hold my nose to pull the lever for that jack-wagon.

The theory is that he's just milquetoast / harmless / lukewarm enough to get by...

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Originally posted by 46and2:

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
If Kasich is "their boy", I'll REALLY have to hold my nose to pull the lever for that jack-wagon.

The theory is that he's just milquetoast / harmless / lukewarm enough to get by...

I still vote for him over HiLIARy, but I'd have to bleach my brain afterward.

That's the corner we've been painted into, of course, and they surely know it.

The threat of Hillary, and the unlikely odds of a full on party revolt / abandonment, and the lack of any real / immediate / tangible repercussions is what emboldens the RNC.

Once tarring and feathering was no longer acceptable, the "threat" is fairly toothless.

[SARCASM] This is the way to unify the party: [/SARCASM]

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After Wisconsin Loss, Trump Accuses 'Lyin' ‘Puppet’ 'Trojan Horse' Cruz Of Trying To ‘Steal’ Nomination
By ALLEGRA KIRKLAND PublishedAPRIL 5, 2016, 10:52 PM EDT

Donald Trump neglected to give a speech or press conference after losing the Wisconsin primary to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) on Tuesday night. Instead, his campaign sent out a statement accusing Cruz of coordinating with Republican party bosses “to steal the nomination.”

“Ted Cruz is worse than a puppet—he is a Trojan horse, being used by the party bosses attempting to steal the nomination from Mr. Trump,” the statement from Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks read. “We have total confidence that Mr. Trump will go on to win in New York, where he holds a substantial lead in all the polls, and beyond.”

The Trump campaign charged that Cruz only won Wisconsin because of the endorsement of “establishment” figured like Gov. Scott Walker (R) and the “countless millions” spent by Super PACs opposed to the New York businessman’s campaign.

Read the full statement via MSNBC’s Benjy Sarlin below:

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From Hope Hicks:
Donald JU. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again. Lyin' Ted Cruz had the Governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behyind him. Not only was he propelled by the anti-Trump Super PAC's countless millions of dollars on false advertising against Mr. Trump, but he was coordinating with his own Super PAC's (which is illegal) who totally control him. Ted Cruz is worse than a puppet---he is a Trojan horse, being used by the party bosses attempting to steal the nomination from Mr. Trump. We have total confidence that Mr. Trump will go on to win in New York, where he holds a substantial lead in all the polls, and beyond. Mr. Trump is the only candidate who can secure the delegates needed to win the Republican nomination and ultimately defeat Hillary Clinton, ow whomever is the Democratic nominee, in order to Make America Great Again.

This isn't the stuff of presidential leadership. Rather, it's a childish temper tantrum.

It feels like the two things are happening:

-- The establishment GOP is closing ranks behind Cruz

-- The Trump campaign implosion has begun.

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Originally posted by 46and2:
The threat of Hillary, and the unlikely odds of a full on party revolt / abandonment, and the lack of any real / immediate / tangible repercussions is what emboldens the RNC.

Given the combined success of Trump and Cruz in the Republican primary season, it is hard to imagine the current state of things as anything less than a full revolt.

BTW, I found the GOPe governing committee addressing the base: