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Originally posted by justjoe:
If you don't think he can run our military, fine. Or that he knows foreign policy. Those are your opinions, and, okay, so we disagree.

What bothers me is making shit up about his "single payer" healthcare plans. There is no excuse for that. Trump has made his actual views on healthcare very clear.

Say it isn't so, Just Joe!! You mean I cannot interpret for my self what he is saying??
I hears it, den I thinks abouts it, and den I decides. Oh, and relax a little. You are going to give yourself a stroke.

I'm much more relaxed than you imagine.

Joe, I really like you and your posts. I honestly can’t remember the last time I ever disagreed with something you posted. I think you are being a bit hard on Cruz and hope you will think about it some more and see how you feel.

He doesn’t walk on water and like every politician he gets close to the third rail at times, but he’s aggressive and that’s not a bad thing. He wants to win, but he’s also a very honest man.

For the past four years the media, Democrats, and his own party have been trying to tear him down. They have been looking for anything they could to ruin his character or call him a fake. They all hate him because he’s kept his word and he will not sell out his principles and play ball. From what he did on the Senate floor to last week with Carson he’s consistently proven he’s a good man. Even in the debate last week he could have pointed the finger at Carson and said who in their right mind goes home for a change of clothes, but he took responsibility and apologized again. Everything about him says that he is a very aggressive, but classy man.

I don’t understand how Trump supporters can point a finger at Cruz for running ads saying he’s for universal healthcare considering what Trump has said in years past and with he has said since his CBS interview in September. When you say I want healthcare to go further than it is now so even more people are covered and the government is going to pay for it that’s fair game. What Trump really believes and how he would pay for it isn’t the point, he opened the door and didn’t give many details. It’s up to Trump to explain it just like anyone else running for office. The same way Cruz had to explain over and over why he added the poison pill to Rubio’s bill.

I also don’t understand how Trump supporters have no problem pointing the finger at Cruz for being a liar with the stuff their own guy says.

Cruz has no problem my lawyers looked into it...he’s Canadian and I’m going to sue him
I like Cruz he’s a good guy...no one likes him he’s a mean guy
I like Carson he’s a good guy...he’s a pedophile

Just two nights ago Trump said as the race goes on I can change into anything I want to.

I think there is middle ground here where people can say yes Cruz is being aggressive, but Trump isn't an angel. I think people can also understand that Cruz is doing what he has to. Think about it...in Iowa he went up against Trump, the rest of the field, the governor, secretary of state, Palin, ethanol, media, the establishment and the birther crap Trump started and he survived. He is totally alone in this race and taking fire from every direction. He's a good man.

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I mentioned before that I think Ted Cruz will be the collateral damage of this election, a generally solid man, a very bright man, a true Constitutional scholar, a patriotic American, and then some, but will be pushed to the wayside due to a mix of his social stances and his personality, and it's a shame in a sense, but I don't believe he can win the whole thing, and through little fault of his own, but most of America isn't like Ted Cruz, yet more should be, and thems the harsh truths we're facing. He's too principled, if anything. Sad and ironic, but we get the sorts of politicians we deserve, and Ted Cruz is better than we deserve, so to speak, we the totality of this country. If only more people were hard core conservatives.

But they aren't.

Really good post, 46. I'm rooting my heart out for the guy, but what you said could very well be true.

I don't think Trump and Cruz supporters are too far apart with what they want. Sadly, that isn't the case with what we are really going up against. I never thought I'd see the day when a socialists got half the vote in the Democratic party.

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Originally posted by Ackks:
Really good post, 46. I'm rooting my heart out for the guy, but what you said could very well be true.

I don't think Trump and Cruz supporters are too far apart with what they want. Sadly, that isn't the case with what we are really going up against. I never thought I'd see the day when a socialists got half the vote in the Democratic party.

The last line in spades!

We must stop the commies no matter what!

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Originally posted by justjoe:

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That is exactly what I said only a little different.

I don't think you guys are THAT dense. You're just being as dishonest as Cruz.

With Romney or McCain it might work. They would hem and haw, not wanting to upset anyone or call anybody a liar.

And this is exactly why in these times we need a junk yard dog like Donald Effing Trump. There are too many liars and cheats around for a Mr. Nice Guy.

Joe, take a deep breath my friend. We get it, you are all in for Trump and some of us are not.
Using words such as lazy, dishonest, and dense to describe other members of this board does not not serve you well. I have enjoyed reading your posts until the last couple pages. Relax.

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Here’s what Trump has to say moving forward when the media asks him About Hillary:

“I’m no longer commenting on Hillary. I’ll be shocked if she’s my opponent. She’s a criminal. She’ll be under indictment soon. Did you really study what she did? The illegal emails. The national secrets of our country on a server in her bathroom closet? The bribes at The Clinton Foundation. The lies of Benghazi right to the face of the parents of dead soldiers. She’s a mess. She’s going to be indicted. She’s not headed to the White House. She’s headed to the Big House. So I am preparing for Bernie, or a last minute replacement like Joe Biden as my opponent. Hillary is no longer viable- unless she’s saved by a corrupt political fix.”

Trump will double his numbers if and when he starts doing this. He's wasting his time and energy fighting enemies whom he has already defeated.
The time to disarm her is now not on a one on one debate stage where she has even footing.

I'm sticking with Trump.

What Cruz pulled on Carson was a shit ass move that got him nothing.

My apologies to the members I have called lazy, dishonest, and dense. (Seriously. No sarcasm.)

I was referring to one specific thing, the misrepresentation of Trump's views on healthcare. But I am well aware that we are ultimately all on the same side here. Totalitarians have partly taken control of our country, and, with Hillary as POTUS especially, would tighten the stranglehold.

Will I vote for Cruz if he should be the nomineee? I will vote for his socks, for a banana peel, for a dead squirrel.

BREAKING POLL: Donald Trump Is winning Latino Republicans

http://www.thegatewaypundit.co...-latino-republicans/

In new poll on Latino voters finds Donald Trump has more support from Republican Latino voters than Cuban-Americans Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio combined.

Trump has support from 38 percent of Latino voters followed by Ted Cruz with 15 percent and Jeb Bush with 14 percent.

Despite his controversial comments about Mexican immigrants, GOP frontrunner Donald Trump is the favorite among Latino Republicans, according to new polling results revealed to The Post.

Thirty eight percent favor Trump, followed by Cuban American Ted Cruz (15 percent), Jeb Bush (14 percent) and Cuban American Marco Rubio (8 percent), according to the national poll conducted by the Beck Research for the American Federation for Children.

“If you’re trying to stop Trump – this poll should trouble you,” said pollster Deborah Beck.

From Day 1 of his presidential campaign, Trump got into hot water with Hispanic organizations for asserting many Mexican immigrants are rapists, criminals and drug dealers. His campaign has since gained steam for his tough talk on building a border wall and making Mexico pay for it and implementing a temporary ban on all Muslims from entering the United States.

“This poll finds that he’s building a committed base of voters. Trump is proving to be Teflon, and despite his statements about Hispanic voters, 38 percent of Hispanic Republicans back him,” said Beck, president of Beck Research LLC.

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Originally posted by Ackks:
I never thought I'd see the day when a socialists got half the vote in the Democratic party.

Unfortunately, this is what I don’t understand about attitudes on the right either now or before the 2012 election.

In 2008, I was willing to accept that that man was elected for any number of reasons that were unrelated to his actual political views: a large segment of the population voted for him for racial reasons alone. Some simply because he was an African-American, but others because it was a way of assuaging their self-imposed feelings of guilt and/or because of the novelty of the thing. By any rational standard that was ever applied to any previous Presidential candidate he was totally unqualified for the office. Bill Clinton’s wife was right when she said that she was better qualified than he was. (That’s not saying much, of course.)

By 2012, however, there was absolutely no reason why anyone who paid the slightest attention to the issues had any excuse for not knowing what that man’s political views were: He was no longer just a possible crypto communist, he was an obvious totalitarian in thought, word, and deed who had utter contempt for this nation and its traditional values. As just one example, the ACA had been passed and signed into law, so even the morons who passed it should have known what its provisions were by then, and not only the people who would be affected by it.

And yet, who was elected? Although the country’s leftists and racists were helped by Republicans who couldn’t bring themselves to vote for someone who they believed wasn’t a Christian (and, for all I know, they suspected of holding barbecues involving real Christian babies in those temples of theirs), the country demonstrated that it had no problem reelecting a demonstrated far-left ideologue.

So where are we today? Expressing amazement that another far-left ideologue is popular with the electorate. Lessee: A more-or-less crypto communist was elected and reelected, an avowed socialist is leading in the Democratic polls, and the answer is to put up someone who is further to the right than the last Republican offerings.

I really don’t understand it. I’m not looking for explanations from the Goldilocks crowd who won’t vote for anyone who isn’t just right, but it would be enlightening to see what members with more centrist views have to say about the matter. Regardless of whom you support, is that really the answer to a popular leftist candidate: For the right to move further to the right? It seems to me that when the Democrats lost with a moderate leftist (e.g., against Nixon), nominating an even further left candidate hasn’t been too successful in the past.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
My apologies to the members I have called lazy, dishonest, and dense. (Seriously. No sarcasm.)

I was referring to one specific thing, the misrepresentation of Trump's views on healthcare. But I am well aware that we are ultimately all on the same side here. Totalitarians have partly taken control of our country, and, with Hillary as POTUS especially, would tighten the stranglehold.

Will I vote for Cruz if he should be the nomineee? I will vote for his socks, for a banana peel, for a dead squirrel.

Forgiven and forgotten. We are on the same side.
Be well

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Originally posted by Iron bottom:
I'm sticking with Trump.

What Cruz pulled on Carson was a shit ass move that got him nothing.

What exactly do you think he "pulled"?
A politician repeats a national news story? How dastardly. He says a vote for my opponent is a wasted vote. Oh the humanity.

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Originally posted by PeteF:

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Originally posted by Iron bottom:
I'm sticking with Trump.

What Cruz pulled on Carson was a shit ass move that got him nothing.

What exactly do you think he "pulled"?
A politician repeats a national news story? How dastardly. He says a vote for my opponent is a wasted vote. Oh the humanity.

I knew you were from Jersey as soon as I got into your post.

But, a point made before is that the Cruz and Trump supporters are not that far apart.

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Originally posted by PeteF:

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Originally posted by Iron bottom:
I'm sticking with Trump.

What Cruz pulled on Carson was a shit ass move that got him nothing.

What exactly do you think he "pulled"?
A politician repeats a national news story? How dastardly. He says a vote for my opponent is a wasted vote. Oh the humanity.

If Cruz didn't do anything wrong, why did he feel the need to apologize for it?

It was a political dirty trick, but there's plenty of them still to come before November. My only beef with Cruz in this situation is that he flat out lied about not knowing about it. He came off looking like Hillary by telling a lie that absolutely no one, other than his sworn minions, would believe.

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Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:

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Originally posted by PeteF:

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Originally posted by Iron bottom:
I'm sticking with Trump.

What Cruz pulled on Carson was a shit ass move that got him nothing.

What exactly do you think he "pulled"?
A politician repeats a national news story? How dastardly. He says a vote for my opponent is a wasted vote. Oh the humanity.

If Cruz didn't do anything wrong, why did he feel the need to apologize for it?

It was a political dirty trick, but there's plenty of them still to come before November. My only beef with Cruz in this situation is that he flat out lied about not knowing about it. He came off looking like Hillary by telling a lie that absolutely no one, other than his sworn minions, would believe.

He apologized, because he has a moral compass. Like "I'm sorry I took the last beer". You actually think that a candidate knows everything every one of his supporters does? Seriously? As far as I know, 2 polling centers were called. Out of how many? Hundreds? Yeah thats a coordinated effort. People keep holding this out like it is some great offense. Again besides repeating a national news story, and telling people voting for carson would be wasting their vote. What exactly did he do?

Its real convenient how Trump supporters bring this up as a horrible action, but seem to gloss over the millions if not billions Trump stole from his companies suppliers. Yes, that is what he did when he accepted goods and services and then weaseled out of paying them back. Bankruptcy x4.

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Originally posted by mrmn50:
I knew you were from Jersey as soon as I got into your post.

Please.
That’s a silly ad hominem comment.

Carson is and has been irrelevant for a while now, and certainly before this business.

I don't think I even know five people who care, including those here who do.

We are probably heading into a presidential election that will be more nasty and dirty than anything we have ever seen.

I hope the eventual Republican candidate hits hard and doesn't pull a single punch.

Wouldn't you like to see a combined debate with Sanders / Clinton / Trump / Cruz / Rubio / etc ??

That would set some viewing records.