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I think he should get some "I'm Thorry" balloons and give all of them to Mr Carson.
 
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We are probably heading into a presidential election that will be more nasty and dirty than anything we have ever seen.

I think it's going to be a hot summer and the democratic convention in the late '60s is probably the role model.


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I'm sticking with Trump.

What Cruz pulled on Carson was a shit ass move that got him nothing.


What exactly do you think he "pulled"?
A politician repeats a national news story? How dastardly. He says a vote for my opponent is a wasted vote. Oh the humanity.

If Cruz didn't do anything wrong, why did he feel the need to apologize for it?

It was a political dirty trick, but there's plenty of them still to come before November. My only beef with Cruz in this situation is that he flat out lied about not knowing about it. He came off looking like Hillary by telling a lie that absolutely no one, other than his sworn minions, would believe.


He apologized, because he has a moral compass. Like "I'm sorry I took the last beer". You actually think that a candidate knows everything every one of his supporters does? Seriously? As far as I know, 2 polling centers were called. Out of how many? Hundreds? Yeah thats a coordinated effort. People keep holding this out like it is some great offense. Again besides repeating a national news story, and telling people voting for carson would be wasting their vote. What exactly did he do?

Its real convenient how Trump supporters bring this up as a horrible action, but seem to gloss over the millions if not billions Trump stole from his companies suppliers. Yes, that is what he did when he accepted goods and services and then weaseled out of paying them back. Bankruptcy x4.


This! Anybody that thinks any candidate knows about every single action everybody in their organization does is just silly. Besides, that didn't effect the results at all. Now if he'd somehow managed to get Carsons name pulled off the ballot, then we'd have a story. Now you might ask yourself why this was made into a huge story when somebody from Rubios camp did the exact same thing, but the answer is simple, Trump sees Cruz as his biggest threat and isn't worried about Rubio at the moment.


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I have often said on this forum that my first choice in a perfect world would be Ted Cruz. But I have changed my mind about Cruz in light of a number of things. One is that he continues to repeat what at this point is clearly a lie: That Donald Trump is in favor of single payer health coverage.

Some posters here may just be mistaken. But Cruz is a very smart, totally informed guy. He knows better. That means he is lying.

If you want to know the truth about Trump and healthcare, read this from The Conservative Treehouse:

http://theconservativetreehous...e-payer-health-care/


When I add Cruz' lying about Trump to the truly dirty move of announcing that Carson was out of the Iowa race, Cruz looks like a sanctimonious prick.


Hey Joe, Trump IS in favor of a single payer healthcare system, he has said so many time. He wants it to be like Sweedens system. The only thing he doesn't like about Obamacare is that it doesn't go far enough. Using your words describing other posters, you must really be dense if you think Cruz is a liar and a cheat and Trump is not.


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Cobrajet, I'm exercising my restraint right now. I have a lot of self-control. So, it's not gonna work.


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Cobrajet, I'm exercising my restraint right now. I have a lot of self-control. So, it's not gonna work.


Not trying to get you worked up, just pointing out the facts. I don't think you were lying, just that you are misinformed.


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I think today is a reminder of how important the Supreme Court is. I'm sure he was pushing her because she's family, but Trump did say his far left sister would make a good SC justice. He also said Brown would make a good VP, so that's more concerning to me today than healthcare. I'd like to hear Trump explain in more detail what he is looking for in a nominee.
 
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his far left sister would make a good SC justice.



I thought she was a Republican nominated by Reagan himself. She's far left?


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She's for partial birth abortions up until the baby is leaving the womb. I know...here comes the partial birth abortion doesn't matter posts. When you combine that with him floating Brown as a VP I think it's worth exploring where his head is at though. He rarely goes into details, but it's a huge issue and I'd genuinely like to hear him talk about what he is looking for in a nominee.
 
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She's for partial birth abortions up until the baby is leaving the womb. I know...here comes the partial birth abortion doesn't matter posts. When you combine that with him floating Brown as a VP I think it's worth exploring where his head is at though.


Well Trump himself supported partial birth abortion until 8 months ago.


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She's for partial birth abortions up until the baby is leaving the womb.



Well clearly, that makes her far left.

Well never mind. I actually went and read up on it, and come to find out, you guys are repeating what you've heard instead of researching what it is you're speaking about.


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I don't post things I don't research and I kind of resent you suggesting that. Yes, that does make her far left. That goes far beyond abortion and if you don't agree it's your right. Like I said, that combined with Brown warrants hearing more about where he stands. Not everything is a don't vote for Trump, which sounds the trumpet for all Trump supporters to coming rushing to his defense. Sometimes people just want to know where someone stands. I think anyone being honest would have wanted to hear more from Romney or anyone else floating a potential SC justice who had a stance like that.
 
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I don't post things I don't research. Yes, that does make her far left.


So then tell us, preferably a quote in her own words, where she is "for partial birth abortions".

Maybe you could point to some of her other "far left" positions as well. Should be easy since she's a judge that has rules on all sorts of cases.


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How about we just save the dance and you just write off and belittle anything I will say or post now and we'll just agree to disagree and save a lot of time.

That being said, I'd still like to hear Trump explain in greater detail what he is looking for in a nominee.
 
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How about we just save the dance and you just write off and belittle anything I will say or post now and we'll just agree to disagree and save a lot of time.


I'm not belitting what you say. You said you researched it. I'd like to know what you found in your research that backs up your claim.


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I don't post things I don't research. Yes, that does make her far left.


So then tell us, preferably a quote in her own words, where she is "for partial birth abortions".

Maybe you could point to some of her other "far left" positions as well. Should be easy since she's a judge that has rules on all sorts of cases.


I would actually like to know where she stands on other issues as well, I think I'll research that sometime soon, though in my eyes anybody that can support partial birth abortion has no moral compass whatsoever. I can see, even though I don't agree, why some support 1st trimester abortion, but nobody can honestly say they don't it's a person as the child is being born.


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in my eyes anybody that can support partial birth abortion has no moral compass whatsoever.


Well I believe that's the problem. Some people tend to confuse a legal ruling with "supporting".

Does it sound like support when read in this context?

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Barry wrote that under the New Jersey law, “physicians cannot understand what conduct is permissible or prohibited.

“Because the act is subject to multiple interpretations and can encompass numerous procedures, extensive adjudication in the state courts would be necessary to clarify the act and narrow its scope even assuming, with little or no confidence, that that could be done at all,” she said.

“In the meantime, physicians would drastically limit their abortions practices to avoid the reach of the act and a woman’s constitutional right to obtain an abortion would be impermissibly chilled.”


She wasn't donating money to Planned Parenthood. She wasn't marching on the sidewalk with a sign. She was ruling on a law, as it was written, how it was applied, and how it could impact otherwise legal activities.

I'm not pro abortion by any means, but I haven't seen anything yet that points to her "supporting partial birth abortions". Maybe I missed it though, and somebody could point it out to me.


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I'm not belitting what you say. You said you researched it. I'd like to know what you found in your research that backs up your claim.

Understand, but I didn't post what I did to get into a debate on Trump on this issue. It's a flag to me because in my opinion having a far left position on even one issue like that makes a judge far left. That's my opinion, but just like him floating Brown for VP it doesn't mean he actually means it, but I'd like to hear more. If he is going to be someone who nominates four justices that's something I'd personally like to hear him talk about because we never really have. I'm open to what he has to say. Getting into her position on it further will only take this down a path that isn't needed.
 
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in my eyes anybody that can support partial birth abortion has no moral compass whatsoever.


Well I believe that's the problem. Some people tend to confuse a legal ruling with "supporting".

Does it sound like support when read in this context?

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Barry wrote that under the New Jersey law, “physicians cannot understand what conduct is permissible or prohibited.

“Because the act is subject to multiple interpretations and can encompass numerous procedures, extensive adjudication in the state courts would be necessary to clarify the act and narrow its scope even assuming, with little or no confidence, that that could be done at all,” she said.

“In the meantime, physicians would drastically limit their abortions practices to avoid the reach of the act and a woman’s constitutional right to obtain an abortion would be impermissibly chilled.”


She wasn't donating money to Planned Parenthood. She wasn't marching on the sidewalk with a sign. She was ruling on a law, as it was written, how it was applied, and how it could impact otherwise legal activities.

I'm not pro abortion by any means, but I haven't seen anything yet that points to her "supporting partial birth abortions". Maybe I missed it though, and somebody could point it out to me.


In her ruling, she referred to abortion as a Constitutional right. Abortion is nowhere to be found in the Constitution, it's a right because of a Supreme Court ruling, NOT the Constitution, unless her states constitution mentions it, so yes her ruling does indicate support for it. I don't think they ever considered partial birth abortion when Roe V Wade went down. I don't m ow if she donates to planned parenthood, I only know of her brothers donations to them and what he has said in interviews about partial birth abortion, but you don't have to march down the street holding signs to support something. Everybody here supports gun rights, but I'd say probably less than 1% have ever marched and held signs for it.

Anyway, that's why I want to see some of her other decisions on controversial issues.


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I will be livid, to say the least, if Brown is picked for VP.
 
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