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Ball Haulin' |
JALLEN, It's all good. I think the two of us can go back and forth all we want and still walk away respecting eachothers opinions. Like I said, the brief bits Ive read on him I dont necessarily disagree with. And youre right...82 years on this planet is something to respect and learn from. BUT...the idea he's as clean as the wind driven snow and some small investor along the way hasnt been burned is folly. Im going to edumicate myself a bit more on him over the weekend and come back again and comment. My lawyer jokes arent that good anyhow. Now back to Trump. -------------------------------------- "There are things we know. There are things we dont know. Then there are the things we dont know that we dont know." | |||
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Ball Haulin' |
Well if Hildabeast or The Burn gets elected, it wont be suicide. It will just be death at someone elses hand. We're at apoint in this Country where we need to man up and get some shit done. Along with that is taking a few risks. To not do so is our certain destruction. -------------------------------------- "There are things we know. There are things we dont know. Then there are the things we dont know that we dont know." | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
92, actually. He is 3 weeks younger than my mother. I don't claim he is pure as the driven snow. He's made his mistakes, quite a few, and had his disappointments. I've never seen anyone claim he cheated them. The "seamless web of deserved trust" isn't a scam. Small investors make mistakes, as do large ones. Nobody makes them make mistakes. Be careful how you determine how someone was burned. I have a pretty good amount of experience at that, too. All my "burns" were self-inflicted. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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On Hannity tonight, Trump said that the two justices who were most like who he would appoint were Scalia and Thomas. LINK (9:23) Trump has not historically seen eye to eye with all their decisions but he was sure clear in his overall support tonight. _______________________________ NRA Life Member NRA Certified Range Safety Officer | |||
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No more Mr. Nice Guy |
This! If not POTUS or SCOTUS, he needs to stay in the Senate. He is one of the very very few who is doing the job he was sent there to do and didn't bow to political pressure and become a sellout right away like Rubio and most all others. We don't have many on our side in the Senate who have that kind of backbone and we need him where he can do the most good. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The problem with our Liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, it's that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan | |||
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Bad dog! |
I have often said on this forum that my first choice in a perfect world would be Ted Cruz. But I have changed my mind about Cruz in light of a number of things. One is that he continues to repeat what at this point is clearly a lie: That Donald Trump is in favor of single payer health coverage. Some posters here may just be mistaken. But Cruz is a very smart, totally informed guy. He knows better. That means he is lying. If you want to know the truth about Trump and healthcare, read this from The Conservative Treehouse: http://theconservativetreehous...e-payer-health-care/ When I add Cruz' lying about Trump to the truly dirty move of announcing that Carson was out of the Iowa race, Cruz looks like a sanctimonious prick. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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Banned |
In lieu of seeing that a single payer health plane is not going to happen, Trump is now declaring that he wants to make sure that everyone is taken care of. To do that, even more money is going to have to come from the government. Maybe a horse by a different name but still the same horse. Be well | |||
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A couple days ago, I read a number of this guy's articles and he was to a small degree convincing me (I'm a Cruz guy). I then read some of his other articles/entries and realized he's in the bag for Trump and that most of his stuff is likely a narrative to convert Cruz supporters to support Trump. Here's a few of his entries: http://theconservativetreehous...-map-the-full-monte/ http://theconservativetreehous...d-splitter-strategy/ http://theconservativetreehous...ted-cruz-supporters/ I've seen a number of criticisms leveled at Cruz on Libertarian and Conservative forums. In fact on one libertarian forum, some so called libertarians were advocating Sanders over Cruz. Really??? I think there's a lot of BS and misdirection being floated out there. I'm not trying to change your mind, but I am saying be critical of everything you read. I think the left (and others) is scared s**tless of Cruz. Respect and Regards, Storm Loyalty Above All Else, Except Honor ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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Crap these guys all suck let's just stay home and let the Dems win. Our original presidents could not get elected nowadays why? They were human...... You all would bitch that Jesus wasn't good enough for the GOP. Get it together people. Stop ripping our only chance that's Cruz and Trump. Say no ill words someone else might take that and not vote or go to the darkside. Let's start thinking straight and keep our eyes on the goal. We all know we are fucked if the Dems win. ------------------------------ Knowing is half the battle! "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson | |||
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Bad dog! |
I don't know whether some of you guys are too lazy to actually find out what Trump has said, or are-- like Cruz-- dishonest. Here are his main points, from a link in the article I cited above: 1.) Repeal of the McCarran Ferguson Act so health insurance can be sold across state lines. 2.) Expansion of Health Savings Accounts to promote price transparency & accountability. 3.) Tort (or Medical Malpractice Reform) 4.) Reform of our health care social safety nets such as Medicaid. 5.) Mr. Trump has most recently added necessary reforms to be made to our broken Veteran’s Administration health care system specifically because it, like all other Single Payer systems is an unmitigated disaster! Trump has then said that no matter how insurance is reformed, no matter how "affordable," there will be some "on the streets" who do not have health insurance. For such destitute, homeless people ONLY... the government will have a program to provide them with medical attention. Is that hard to understand? Or is it just easy to spin and distort? When Trump has said "We cannot be heartless," he was referring to such people. I completely agree. In a wealthy country, to allow destitute people-- whether they are winos, druggies, crazy, or whatever personal catastrophe put them out in the street-- to allow them to die like rats would be unconscionable. Cruz is "pro-life." Are you pro-life? What? Only when it is still in the womb? ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
Why does everybody seem to think Trump saying "I want to cover everybody" automatically mean fully socialized health care? It doesn't. It could take many forms. | |||
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Rule #1: Use enough gun |
That'll tell ya why the lawyers on the forum are against it. When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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Savor the limelight |
From 9/27/2015 60 Minutes interview with Donald Trump: "Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now." "Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it." Sounds like single payer to me. | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Some of you guys are gonna like this one:
Link Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Rule #1: Use enough gun |
^^^What's not to like?^^^ When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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Banned |
That is exactly what I said only a little different. As far as the Carson thingy in the Iowa Caucus, the crap that goes on at these things make a Roman Circus look tame. Please do not fall for the media BS. Be well | |||
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Bad dog! |
I don't think you guys are THAT dense. You're just being as dishonest as Cruz. With Romney or McCain it might work. They would hem and haw, not wanting to upset anyone or call anybody a liar. And this is exactly why in these times we need a junk yard dog like Donald Effing Trump. There are too many liars and cheats around for a Mr. Nice Guy. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
"The government will pay for it" could be interpreted more than one way as well. It could well include some subsidies, but I doubt it would be fully "socialized." How about waiting and seeing? | |||
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Banned |
Yeah, effing Trump is the guy. Forget about foreign policy. Forget about running our military. we just had an ass clown effing every thing up. Let's do it again because he has big balls. But, again, I am dense and inexperienced in the ways of the world. So, Donald Effing Trump it shall be, me boy. But, if Trump should be the nominee, then I support the hell out of him over anything in the dem libtard party. | |||
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Bad dog! |
If you don't think he can run our military, fine. Or that he knows foreign policy. Those are your opinions, and, okay, so we disagree. What bothers me is making shit up about his "single payer" healthcare plans. There is no excuse for that. Trump has made his actual views on healthcare very clear. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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