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I like the fact that Trump is slapping all those shitheads that dare challenge him. I really do. Having seen the National Review crowd (three of them) on Megan's show, I was thinking they needed to get to the vet, get their shots and get socialized. Simply rabid, they were. Do they not realize no one gives a crap about their ignorant wailing? And the fact that they do not get to pick the President? | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
What do you guys think of the arguments made in this article by the FiveThirtyEight guy? Sadly, they seem pretty compelling, in terms of what Trump's true likelihood of even getting the nomination is, at least historically. | |||
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Curious what the Thomas Sowell supporters think of his blistering comments on Mr. Trump? MG | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
I am so tired of seeing this nonsense. Good God, there is no other viable candidate, including Ted Freaking Cruz. He's too far Right to win in a general election. Tell me, Gustofer, just WHO you think is coming to the rescue? Tell me- by name- who, please. Tell me. | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
Preach it. | |||
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Glorious SPAM! |
I support Trump and I am quite awake, thank you. It is the Trump haters that are snoozing, for they cannot see what the last 7 years have done to politics in this country. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
That's right. General Election: Trump vs. Clinton: Clinton +2.5 General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton: Cruz +0.6 http://www.realclearpolitics.c...vs_clinton-4034.html I actually think either one of them would beat Clinton. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
I just can't get enough of the pissing and moaning about Trump. Really, post of some more of that "We're screwed if Trump is elected". Go ahead, so that I can call you an establishment-loving idiot. | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Trump, out of every single candidate out there, Democrat or Republican, has the best chance of getting to the White House. This is not rocket science. And you're correct; Cruz (who I like a lot) is not going to appeal to independents. No Democrats will vote for him, yet Trump will pull in some Dems because of their displeasure with both Bernie and Hillary. I know people like this. And Cruz cannot be compared to Reagan in any sense. Reagan had instant name recognition back in the 70s. The guy was on Dean Martin's roast several times for God's sakes. He was a celebrity. And there is one guy today who has that name recognition. And it ain't Cruz. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Lighten up and laugh |
I took my post down because it really doesn't matter. We are all on the same side at the end of the day and it will play out how it plays out, but this scorched earth policy of Trump has really set off a civil war. | |||
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wishing we were congress |
Ten days away from the Iowa caucus process. A couple Rep candidates will probably drop out due to poor showing. adding: When you consider any of the Rep candidates, think about what Barack Hussein Obama has done to our country over the last 7 years. Hillary would be an extension of that. I want the candidate who will be most aggressive in undoing all of Obama's policies, executive orders, obamacare, and just massively cleaning house in DoJ, IRS, EPA, HUD, etc. scorched earth approach. fuck the Democrats | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
I've always known there was an establishment. But I used to think I was part of it. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Donald Trump: You Should Vote For Me Because, Unlike Cruz, I Can Make Deals With the Democrats; "You've Got to Be a Little Bit Establishment" Donald Trump is that guy on Survivor who has made mutually-conflicting promises of alliances with everyone in the game. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said Thursday there's nothing wrong with a little deal-making to get things done. "You know what? There's a point at which: Let's get to be a little establishment," Trump told about 1,500 people at a rally at the Las Vegas South Point Resort and Casino. "We've got to get things done folks, OK? Believe me, don't worry. We're going to make such great deals." ... "Guys like Ted Cruz will never make a deal because he's a strident guy," Trump said. Trump, who has been all over the map on every issue, is now all over the map on the central argument of his candidacy. Cruz is too strident? We have to make deals with Democrats? http://ace.mu.nu/archives/361162.php "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
The one point that stands out to me there is that Trump's supporters now are all he's got and all he'll ever have. With that statement, I am talking about the primaries, not the general election, which is a different problem. But in the primaries, I don't think Trump will pick up too many of the other candidates' voters as they drop out. So he is not going to get too many more voters than he has now. Those voters will go to other contenders. In the general election, he will be able to get votes from GOP voters who didn't want him as the candidate, but who will vote for him over any Democrat. But he won't get much of the middle of the country, undecideds, or voters who are otherwise apathetic. Now, on the other side, Clinton may have the same problem to some extent, but I think to a much lesser extent. She'll get some women who will vote for her as a woman, even though they aren't real lefties. I think Clinton will do better with moderates than will Trump. Plus, I think the lefties are steadily growing in numbers in general, much as I hate that. So, I'd rather nominate a candidate that will be better able to get some of the moderate/middle of the voters because that is how the GOP can win in the general election. Remember, Trump will win Texas (and Utah, etc.), as will any Republican. To win the general election, the GOP has to win some of the big swing states like Pennsylvania or Florida. I don't think Trump can do that. I think if we get Trump as the nominee, we get Clinton as President. I'd love to have something de-rail Clinton, because the Bern will have a much harder time in a general election. But I think the chances of that are very low, and the GOP will face Clinton in the election. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Just stow it. Goddamn, you guys are like a broken record. You don't like Trump and he's horrible- the worst guy, ever. If he's elected, the planet will explode. OK? Freaking happy now? Stop all the whining. I'm sick of it. Some of you guys- NOTHING in the political realm- NOTHING makes you happy, and I am SICK of hearing it. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Ya? ... and we used to like you, too! Maybe it's a moving target.... I don't think "the establishment" is what it was in the '50's. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
I used to be "the man." But I haven't kept anyone down in a coon's age. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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recovering ammoholic |
Jesus. Great Post Jallen. ETA: This mirrors my exact situation as well. --------------------------------- How's your cardio? Nature, alas, made only one being out of you although there was material for a good man and a rogue.” -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. - Friedrich Nietzsche | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
There is that possibility. But, like I pointed out above, Cruz is actually polling better against Hillary than Trump is. I think either one of them would beat Clinton. Carson... isn't going anywhere, so not worth the discussion. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Do the next right thing |
The election won't be against Hillary or Bernie. The hag is going to be indicted and dem's will flee from Bernie. Uncle Joe will be drafted. I can't wait for the debates. | |||
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