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What if you stopped calling yourself a conservative and instead just promised to make America great again? What if you dropped all this leftover 19th-century piety about the free market and promised to fight the elites who were selling out American jobs? What if you just stopped talking about reforming Medicare and Social Security and instead said that the elites were failing to deliver better health care at a reasonable price? What if, instead of vainly talking about restoring the place of religion in society — something that appeals only to a narrow slice of Middle America — you simply promised to restore the Middle American core — the economic and cultural losers of globalization — to their rightful place in America? What if you said you would restore them as the chief clients of the American state under your watch, being mindful of their interests when regulating the economy or negotiating trade deals? That's pretty much the advice that columnist Samuel Francis gave to Pat Buchanan in a 1996 essay, "From Household to Nation," in Chronicles magazine. http://theweek.com/articles/59...-trump-campaign-1996 "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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That doesn't make President Iron Skillet sound so bad. _____________________ Be careful what you tolerate. You are teaching people how to treat you. | |||
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| Freethinker |
What a great idea, but the inescapable problem is that many—perhaps most—people cannot think in terms of more than one-word descriptors. In my little rural town much of the population considers themselves to be Democrats because their great-granddaddies were Democrats, but the only thing that links them to that party is that they always vote for anyone with (D) after his name. It has nothing to do with their support of the party’s policies and ideals, and if they paid attention to those things, most would be appalled. The same is likewise true of many on the other side. If someone said, “I’m not a conservative …,” many on the right would instantly become deaf and not hear another word about what the candidate stood for or wanted to achieve in office. “She’s not a conservative, she said so herself, so I’m not voting for her; I’d rather vote for a piece of belly button lint.” ► 6.4/93.6 “Most men … can seldom accept the simplest and most obvious truth if it … would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions … which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabrics of their lives.” — Leo Tolstoy | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Trump is appealing way beyond those people who "cannot think in terms of more than one-word descriptors". He's not liberal... or conservative. It's a form of nationalism.  "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Info Guru |
The Clintons are getting desperate. http://www.politico.com/blogs/...218007#ixzz3xoSxJXek Clinton Library set to release Donald Trump records President Bill Clinton's presidential library is set to make public nearly 500 pages of records pertaining to Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, according to an official notice from the National Archives. The records will detail the Clinton White House's interactions with Trump and his Trump Organization, as well as how Clinton aides prepared to field questions about Trump's entry into the 2000 presidential race, where he sought the nomination of the Reform Party for a few months before dropping out. The files could revive questions about the friendly relationship Trump had with President Clinton and Hillary Clinton before Trump launched his presidential bid last year and began taking a withering line against the Clintons. "The Clinton Presidential records proposed for opening consist of email concerning birthday notes sent from President Clinton to Mr. Trump. Email also includes references to his campaign for President in 1999," says the January 14 notice from the archives, which oversees the presidential records stored at the Clinton Library. "Also present is a printed database entry concerning Trump’s invitations to White House events, a photograph of President Clinton with Donald Trump at Trump Towers in New York, an autographed copy of Mr. Trump's book The Art of the Deal, and briefing materials for press events that include media questions about Mr. Trump's possible run for the presidency in 2000." The 464 pages of records were prepared in response to a Freedom of Information Act request. Another request back in 2011 for correspondence from Trump to Clinton or his aides yielded no records, according to the requester. By law, the current president and former president involved have 60 business days to review the records and consider a possible assertion of executive privilege. Barring such a development, or a request for an extension, the records should be available to the public beginning in April. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
Me thinks that the Clintons are putting the cart before the horse. I don't expect her to be the nominee. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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Bald Headed Squirrel Hunter |
How can hillary not expect to be bloodied by this also? desperate times call for desperate measures. "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" | |||
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Telecom Ronin |
She's throwing chaff <sp>, she must be getting desperate. While I had no doubt this would come out but I am sure they wanted to wait until later in the election. Trump will shrug this off...."I am businessman and was friendly with the President. .....duh!!!" That's business hell Bill sounds like a blast to hang out with.... | |||
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If Hill had half a brain, she wouldn't even use the word e-mail. Trump can turn this back on her without much effort. Ken | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
Yeah, she is. I don't think we will feel the Bern. I'm not saying she is a sure thing, but it will take an exceptionally explosive development to derail her. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
I just have a sneaky feeling that the DNC is going to pull some hijinks and toss Fauxcahontas Warren into the mix when it becomes clear that Hillary can't win. I don't think that the left will let Bernie be the nominee. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
I think I just threw up a little. | |||
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| Oh stewardess, I speak jive.  |
the latest scuttlebutt I'm reading (whilst holding my nose and wading deep into their online territories to see what's being said) is that the Sanders camp may pick Fauxcahontas as his Veep to (in their minds) add credibility and a more sane/centrist position perception, in their last push to beat Hillary for the nomination while she's down. He just drew 7000 or so supporters in Birmingham the other day, and he pretty much owns the young(er) Democratic voters (though I personally doubt it'll make a difference). maybe it's wishful thinking, on their parts, maybe it's substantive/material, but what I don't see much of anywhere, beyond the mentions here and a few glimmers in Sanders groups, is any serious talk that expects anyone other than Hillary to be their nominee. shit, in some of the Bernie enclaves online they were furiously pickng apart YouTube videos after the recent Dem debate talking about how Danky was following Hillary around like a puppy, touching her (like hand on back out of familiarity/closeness) and they giggled liie two peas in a pod, and how Danky and the Dem machine are all but ignoring everyone else and are riding the Hillary train at full speed. no, short of an indictment/etc, I think she's still their nominee, and - despite all her faults and failures and evils - will not be easy to beat. maybe an outsider like Trump can. I certainly hope so. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Just a little? Lucky you. I went into convulsions like the guy from Alien before his chest burst open. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine |
Oh for Pete's sake. Why is it always conspiracies and secret plans? I don't see Warren as significantly less leftist that Sanders, and have seen no signs that the DNC is lurking in the background waiting for a chance to spring her on us. The DNC wants Clinton. They will stick with her unless and until something unfixable happens, and I think the chances of that are very slim. 46and2 is right. Clinton is the plan. If it does, the whole Democratic Party plan will have been violently upset, and who knows what would happen? I don't think anyone does, and any contingency plan that may exist would be like a fart in a hurricane. A Hillary disaster would disrupt the Dems more severely than Trump's success has disrupted the GOP. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
... and she's at Obama's mercy. The FBI will present its' evidence to Loretta Lynch, the AG, who will do whatever Barry tells her to do. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Lighten up and laugh |
There is common ground between Cruz and Trump supporters. We are tired of being pushed around and we want to win. The last thing we want is Hilliary, but she's really slipping in the polls and hasn't even been indicted yet. There is a really good chance at this point she may not even make it to the general.
Trump says this all the time, but the Constitution and the principles behind it are what make this country great. A man can't return us to those things if he doesn't believe them and that's evident in the fact a lot of his proposals aren’t Constitutional. Instead, he exalts himself saying, “I will get things done”. When someone puts themselves above the Founders and the laws of the land we end up with exactly the type of person we have in office now. Many here have complained about Obama’s tactics to get things done without Congress, but it’s evident that Trump and his ego will do the same. Do you really mean you are fine subverting the law as long as it’s someone you agree with? Sadly, the answer is probably yes for a lot of people and that’s a problem. You can’t fix a hole in a boat by putting more in it. At some point a president has to choose between their poll numbers and taking a stand for what they know to be right. The ethanol debate in Iowa is a pretty clear indication of how they would both react. Trump makes deals and takes stances to win, while Cruz is willing to lose to stand for what is right. Our gun rights are literally hanging by one justice. Would Trump risk his poll numbers by taking a difficult stand for a Scalia or would he make one of the deals he keeps talking about and give us another Roberts? I understand where Trump supporters are coming from, but a lot of us have been waiting for someone like Cruz for 30 years. I'm willing to bet that a lot of Trump supporters have as well, but for whatever reason they like Trump more, which is fine. I know full well I'm not converting any votes here, but my thoughts above are why this race is starting to really disappoint me. Beyond all the dirty things that started happening this week we are passing up an opportunity that we may not get again. If that's what people want the rest of us have to live with it, but it's disappointing. | |||
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Would require pruning the Leviathon down to a mere shadow of its former self. Maybe Donald/Fiorina are best suited to do this, based on actual proven performance. And Ted as a Supreme Court Justice. Edit: Oh, and Ben as Surgeon General. ____________________ | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Donald Trump: Hillary’s Being Nice to Obama Because She Wants to Stay Out of the Clink Earlier today, at a rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma with Sarah Palin, Donald Trump told the crowd Hillary Clinton is being nice to Obama because she wants to stay out of the clink. Tonight Trump doubled-down on the remarks. Greta Van Susteren: From the soundbite we played you suggested Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is saying positive things about President Obama because she wants to stay out of the clink. Do you want to elaborate on that? Donald Trump: Look, she has done things that are absolutely wrong and absolutely illegal no matter how you look at it… And when you look at what she’s done compared to General Petraeus it’s 20 times greater. It’s not even a contest. General Petraeus has suffered greatly and you know the consequences. What he’s gone through is brutal. And she’s gone through nothing. And, I say it’s up to the president. It’s up to the Democrats. What the Democrats are doing is preserving her to run for office. Anybody else who did what she did would now be sitting in the clinker. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/333447/ "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
It's interesting, this thing with some SF members and Trump. Back when Romney lost, unanimously, folks here blasted him for not being more aggressive, for not calling out the opponent, for throwing softballs, for not going for the jugular. For being timid with the press, for being too damn politically correct. Then along comes a candidate who solves those issues. Who doesn't give a shit about the press, about political correctness. The only guy who goes for the throat. And possesses attributes of Romney; a self-made man who has tons of real-world experience. Who knows how to delegate and run extremely successful projects. Like Romney, a guy facing a very weak opponent(s) on the Democratic side. But unlike Romney, a guy who appeals to blue collar workers, union members, blacks, hispanics, etc. Yet he is not good enough. He's too harsh. He has no real "government experience". Fickle folks. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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