I read where President Trump will open an investigation and prosecute all members of congress that were part of the committee that lead the charge to put the folks from Jan 6 on trial and in jail. Bennie Thompson, a worthless asslick from MS, lead the committee and is now saying that he will be receiving a “preemptive pardon from Biden” so that when he is procecsisuted he will not have to serve any jail time or give up his position in congress.

Can this actually happen where Biden can give him a pardon now before he is even brought to trial?

I can't imagine how it's constitutional. If it is, it damn well shouldn't be.

The question about giving a pardon for crimes committed even before someone is charged, much less convicted has been raised and answered many times here. President Ford pardoned Nixon on that same basis to cite one of the most famous cases.

The one rumored possibility of a “preemptive” pardon that I personally find to be the most disturbing is that of General Mark Milley. I realize it’s naïve, but I want to hold someone like a senior military officer to a higher standard than a politician. Just like the scorpion that stings the frog that’s carrying it across the river, politicians do what politicians do. Every time I think about his obvious crime in attempting to subvert the authority of President Trump, not to mention any other malfeasance, I sit trying to keep my heart rate under control.

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I read where President Trump will open an investigation and prosecute all members of congress that were part of the committee that lead the charge to put the folks from Jan 6 on trial and in jail.
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I doubt that President Trump would do that. Do you have a link?

Sigfreund - Thanks Sir. I now remember reading this now that you mentioned it but it was many years ago. Sorry all for asking a question that had already been answered.

Hate that it is constitutional. I am sure he will ask for it and get it, as this is one person that needs to be removed from our government, IMO.

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:

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Originally posted by sigarmsp226:
I read where President Trump will open an investigation and prosecute all members of congress that were part of the committee that lead the charge to put the folks from Jan 6 on trial and in jail.
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I doubt that President Trump would do that. Do you have a link?

Pipe Smoker - Here are a couple of several articles related to this topic.


https://www.foxnews.com/politi...nd-trump-his-minions

https://coloradonewsline.com/2...z-cheney-go-to-jail/

^^^ That's just Trump being Trump, saying "they should go to jail", just like during the 2016 presidential debate with Killary, when he said, "Because you'd be in jail". He never said he will open an investigation and prosecute the J6 committee thugs. But I do agree that Klinton and the rest of those thugs should be in prison for what they did.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
The question about giving a pardon for crimes committed even before someone is charged, much less convicted has been raised and answered many times here. President Ford pardoned Nixon on that same basis to cite one of the most famous cases.

The one rumored possibility of a “preemptive” pardon that I personally find to be the most disturbing is that of General Mark Milley. I realize it’s naïve, but I want to hold someone like a senior military officer to a higher standard than a politician. Just like the scorpion that stings the frog that’s carrying it across the river, politicians do what politicians do. Every time I think about his obvious crime in attempting to subvert the authority of President Trump, not to mention any other malfeasance, I sit trying to keep my heart rate under control.

I'm disturbed at the prospect that there's an entire political and governing class that can act together in concert to not only break, but actively subvert the law and then simply have one man wave his hand and say it's ok, that they're immune from oversight and consequences. This is the sort of "constitutional" action that I feel will require some clarification from the Supreme Court.

If Joe is mentally incompetent couldn’t his pardons be subject to a legal challenge asserting he didn’t have the capacity to properly exercise that power.

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The "Breaker of Narratives"

https://x.com/ScottJenningsKY/.../1867265480525783357

^^^ Bitches sat in silence. That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

Their eyes were vacuous.

Ivy League schools should be 'shaking in their boots' with Trump's latest nominee, students say
Harmeet Dhillon previously referred to anti-Israel protesters as 'little terrorists'

By Yael Halon | Fox News
Published December 13, 2024 5:00am EST

President-elect Donald Trump's nomination of Harmeet K. Dhillon to lead the Justice Department's civil rights division has Jewish students breathing a sigh of relief as incidents of antisemitism continue to run rampant at universities across the U.S.

Trump announced Dhillon's nomination for the role on Monday, hailing her as a civil rights warrior who has taken on prominent legal battles in defense of free speech, religious rights and anti-woke discrimination cases.

But it's Dhillon's outspoken position against Ivy League schools for their failure to combat antisemitism that has many students hopeful that help is on the way.

Dhillon has repeatedly taken a hard-line stance against antisemitism at U.S. universities. In April, Sahar Tarktak, a Yale student from Long Island, wrote on X that she was hospitalized after she was attacked by an anti-Israel mob for walking with her visibly Jewish friend on campus.

Dhillon urged Tartak and others to take legal action against the university and her attackers.

"Sue Yale. Sue every university that refuses to keep students safe based on their religion. Make them regret their choices," Dhillon responded on X. "Deplete their endowments. Sue each and every violent protester and organizers. Drain their bank accounts. Sew salt in their careers."

https://x.com/pnjaban/status/1...nominee-students-say



In a separate video circulating online, Dhillon described anti-Israel protesters who were blocking Jewish students from accessing their campuses as "little terrorists."

"If you want to link arms & block access to a campus...tap a cop on the head, f--- around and find out, you should be arrested & hauled off to jail...," Dhillon said in the clip. "I think these students are little terrorists. They're terrorizing Jewish students, and they're terrorizing everybody who wants to get an education at that campus and that is not permitted by the First Amendment..."

A webpage on Dhillon's law firm site outlines its commitment to representing victims of campus antisemitism as part of their larger mission of "upholding civil rights and defending constitutional principles across the nation."

"We are proud to extend our unwavering legal support to Jewish individuals who have encountered discrimination, retaliation, or harassment in their school or workplace environments," the website reads. "Our firm is ready to allocate extensive resources to support individuals who have suffered due to antisemitism."

Tartak, now a junior at Yale, praised Trump's nomination of Dhillon, telling Fox News Digital that she and other Jewish students are still grappling with disturbing antisemitic incidents on campus regularly.

"Because the university does not exhibit moral clarity and refuses to stand up for what's right, the environment at Yale has and will continue to be unsafe for Jewish students," she said. "It is so important and such a relief to have someone of her stature and role not only stand up for Jewish students but stand up for our country and our civilization. I wish she didn't have to."

Tartak said Trump's selection of Dhillon puts Yale and other universities "on notice" as he fulfills his vow to crack down on unchecked campus antisemitism and violence.

Harvard University graduate Shabbos Kestenbaum, who is currently suing the university alleging pervasive and systemic antisemitism, also praised Trump's selection of Dhillon, warning, "Harvard should be very, very nervous."

"This has been a consistent theme within the Trump transition team namely, that promises made will be promises kept," he told Fox News Digital. "There is a moral and legal imperative for institutions of higher learning that have betrayed the American taxpayer, discriminated against Jewish students and enabled the culture of political indoctrination, to finally be held accountable."

Kestenbaum said it's a "a damning indictment on the current administration that we Jewish students are counting down until January 20 for justice to finally be served."

The Harvard graduate hailed Dhillon as "someone who has been at the forefront, not just on social media but within the political landscape, amplifying the voices of Jewish students and encouraging them to hold their colleges accountable," telling Fox News Digital that students across the U.S. are "incredibly relieved" by news of her nomination.

"Come January 20th, Harvard, Columbia, Yale, and any other university that has failed to sufficiently address campus antisemitism, should expect to have it coming.

"If they're not shaking in their boots, then they're not paying attention," he said. "The American people in November repudiated the Ivy League values, the sense of moral hypocrisy and elitism and absolutely, Harvard in particular, will feel the sting of the Trump Administration if they continue to act in this way."

Harvard did not respond to Fox News Digital's request for comment.

Trump's victory has colleges and universities on high alert after he vowed to take on higher education as part of his plan to overhaul the U.S. education system. U.S. universities have come under scrutiny in recent months for their lackluster response to antisemitism as protests and encampments overtook campuses nationwide amid the ongoing war in Gaza. Many universities chose to look the other way, prompting a mass exodus by donors who withdrew millions in grants and severed relationships with their alma matters.

Trump has repeatedly targeted colleges and universities on the campaign trail, pledging to free higher learning in America from the grip of what he called "Marxist Maniacs." His platform in 2024 called for "deporting pro-Hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again." Trump has also vowed to combat "wokeness" and progressive culture in education, repeatedly railing against DEI initiatives, which he believes are inadvertently discriminatory.

https://x.com/pnjaban/status/1...nominee-students-say



In July, Trump said that he would advance a measure to have schools "fined up to the entire amount of their endowment" if they do not desist DEI programs that engage in "explicit unlawful discrimination under the guise of equity." He has also threatened to withhold federal dollars from schools that play a role in online censorship as part of his plan to "shatter the left-wing censorship regime."

His selection of Dhillon for the task "proves he is putting his money where his mouth is," a New York student told Fox News Digital.

She and the president-elect largely see eye to eye on the issue. In May, Dhillon posted on X, "Incredible the number of future doctors & lawyers shouting ‘from the river to the sea’ while draped in keffiyehs & calling for death to Israel. No wonder these same soft-brains go on to push gender ideology, pronouns, DEI. If you stand for nothing, you’ll fall for anything."

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Ivy League schools should be 'shaking in their boots' with Trump's latest nominee, students say
Harmeet Dhillon previously referred to anti-Israel protesters as 'little terrorists'

By Yael Halon | Fox News
Published December 13, 2024 5:00am EST

Trump has repeatedly targeted colleges and universities on the campaign trail, pledging to free higher learning in America from the grip of what he called "Marxist Maniacs." His platform in 2024 called for "deporting pro-Hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again." Trump has also vowed to combat "wokeness" and progressive culture in education, repeatedly railing against DEI initiatives, which he believes are inadvertently discriminatory.

I take issue with this specific statement by Fox News. The discriminatory aspects of these DEI initiatives are anything but inadvertent...They are a core component and the underlying principle of everything in the Woke DEI sphere! This foundational element being pushed by these societal terrorists is absolutely purposeful, and a core tenet of this twisted and destructive agenda! The sooner DEI is vanquished from society, the better...It is a cancer on human civilization!

To say that Harmeet Dhillon is an excellent pick to lead the Civil Rights Division at the DOJ is a bit of an understatement. She will certainly do great things in that role!

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I take issue with this specific statement by Fox News.

Maybe you should take issue with Trump? Because according to Fox, that's what he "believes".

^^ 'According to Fox News' yes, but I don't believe he believes that...And I certainly have never heard him express that sentiment! It's certainly not like Fox News is infallible.

Reverse Racism or Make-up Racism, as put forth in DEI and/or Affirmative Action is still Racism...And there's nothing 'inadvertent' about it!

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^^ 'According to Fox News' yes, but I don't believe he believes that...And I certainly have never heard him express that sentiment! It's certainly not like Fox News is infallible.

Yeah, I really don’t give a crap what any media says someone thinks or said. Show me the clip of the subject person saying whatever and then we can talk.

People used to say that the way you could tell a politician was lying was that his or her mouth was moving. Today, the same can be said about a (very) large swath of the mainstream media.

No one says Fox is infallible. And, not everyone is aware of every sentiment Trump ever expressed.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Trump has also vowed to combat "wokeness" and progressive culture in education, repeatedly railing against DEI initiatives, which he believes are inadvertently discriminatory.

I take issue with this specific statement by Fox News. The discriminatory aspects of these DEI initiatives are anything but inadvertent...

Blatent or inadvertent?

Is that really a point worth debating?

First, I'm not sure if we (any of us!) are in disagreement here, but I don't believe we are, nor should we be. Honestly though, re: blatant vs. inadvertent, I don't think the point IS debatable.

The fact is, I don't really trust Fox News to be an independent and unbiased arbiter/reporter of news anymore, and haven't since the 2020 election. Their firing of Tucker Carlson definitely proved my suspicions correct in my eyes, and just like anything from any other news organization, I feel compelled to verify the voracity of everything anymore. I would not be surprised if DEI exists (thrives?) on the down-low within the culture at Fox News, and that they may be participating in an attempt to provide a 'soft landing' for the demise of DEI in corporate culture, as the writing on the wall seems to indicate that is inevitable. Casting this as ‘inadvertently discriminatory’ and tying that falsehood to DTJ’s beliefs to add validity to it would be helpful if that’s their intent.

In my eyes, Donald Trump is WAY too insightful to believe that DEI, after expressing how destructive it is and how it absolutely needs to be eliminated, is somehow only 'inadvertently' discriminatory doesn’t pass the smell test. I've met the man a couple of times, and had short conversations with him, and I'm my heart I cannot conceive he would hold this sentiment. We all know that journalism in the Legacy Media is on the brink of extinction, as is accuracy in reporting. Further, they have proven themselves to be willing participants in pushing a narrative, if that narrative benefits the Establishment. Note that they did not quote Donald Trump, but only stated he 'believes' this is the case. Honestly, it’s also possible that this was originally written as ‘intentionally discriminatory’ and it somehow got changed to ‘inadvertently’ along the way. Obviously we’ll never know, but there’s no question that the Legacy Media is the enemy of our freedom(s). We should treat them as such and never assume their on the side of good until it’s proven otherwise.

All that said, though we got a little sidetracked here, Harmeet Dhillon is certainly one MOST EXCELLENT pick to lead the Civil Rights Division at DOJ!