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6/12/23




"All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope."

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Let's apply the Jack Smith standard to Biden and Hillary Clinton

https://www.washingtonexaminer...-and-hillary-clinton

I read the Department of Justice’s indictment this weekend, and yes, it was a mess. Frankly, one can easily imagine former President Donald Trump ordering the movement of storage boxes from one location to another (and back again) and even waving a “senior military officials’” attack plan in front of a writer for dramatic effect. Reckless? Yes. A violation of the law? Maybe. As corrupt as Hillary Clinton’s mishandling and destruction of classified material? Or the Biden family’s alleged influence-peddling operation? Not by a long shot.

One need not defend Trump’s behavior as outlined in the indictment to point out that the Justice Department’s charges in this case are the result of selective prosecution. Consider, for example, the many cases of rule-bending and breaking that the DOJ has turned a blind eye to at Trump’s expense.

In March 2019, Fox News obtained a copy of an internal FBI chart created during its “Midyear Exam” investigation into Clinton’s use of a private server when she was secretary of state. The following comment appeared next to 18 U.S. Code 793 (f) , the section of the statute most applicable to Clinton’s case: “NOTE: DOJ not willing to charge this; only known cases are Military, cases when accused lost the information (e.g. thumb drive sent to unknown recipient at wrong address.)”

Call me crazy, but Clinton’s use of a private server, her subsequent deletion of more than 33,000 emails that were under subpoena with BleachBit, and the destruction of her personal cellphones with hammers sure sound like violations of 18 U.S.C. These measures go well beyond “gross negligence,” which was how then-FBI Director James Comey described Clinton’s actions in the first draft of his exoneration memo. In a later version, at the suggestion of the disgraced Peter Strzok, he downgraded his assessment of her behavior to “ extemely careless .”

That same month, the House released transcripts of the 2018 congressional testimonies of former high-ranking DOJ official Bruce Ohr and former FBI lawyer Lisa Page.

Ohr told lawmakers that when he brought the Steele dossier, a bogus piece of evidence paid for by the Clinton campaign to distract from her email scandal, to then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and Page on July 30, 2016, he emphasized that it was opposition research paid for by Clinton and the DNC. He stressed that it was “uncorroborated” and had been compiled by Christopher Steele, a man who “hated” Trump and wanted to prevent him from winning the election.

Nevertheless, the FBI opened the Crossfire Hurricane investigation the next day.

In October 2016, fully aware of the facts, the FBI used the unverified dossier as the basis of its application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for a warrant to spy on Carter Page, a junior adviser to the Trump campaign. In what journalists call “circular reporting,” the FBI used a Yahoo News article written by Michael Isikoff, who had used Steele as his source, to corroborate the dossier. And knowing this, Comey signed off on the application and two subsequent ones.

In January 2017, Comey met with then-President-elect Trump to brief him on the dossier. He reportedly told Trump it was “unverified” and “salacious.” In other words, the same document the FBI submitted as “verified” to a FISA court three months earlier was presented to Trump as dirty politics.

When the briefing ended, the duplicitous FBI director notified President Barack Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper that Trump had been briefed and he could give CNN the green light to publish the dossier story. They were all in on it.

Lisa Page testified that the DOJ pressured the FBI to scuttle the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails. Moreover, Page revealed that when then-Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed special counsel Robert Mueller in May 2017, the FBI had no evidence that Trump had colluded with the Russians to win the election. Nor had they been able to corroborate any of the claims made in the dossier.

The DOJ’s documented wrongdoing in the Russiagate case is vital to understanding the current case against Trump. It is no coincidence the Trump indictment was announced the same day that members of the House Oversight Committee viewed the FD-1023 form in which a highly credible and well-paid FBI confidential human source detailed allegations that President Joe Biden had taken a $5 million bribe from an executive at Ukrainian energy firm Burisma Holdings in exchange for policy decisions during his vice presidency.

Sources told the Washington Examiner that an FBI record reveals the executive was Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, Burisma’s owner. Zlochevsky offered Hunter Biden a highly paid seat on its board of directors in April 2014 while his father was serving as Obama’s “point man” in Ukraine.

The Washington Examiner also reported that Zlochevsky referred to Joe Biden in his conversation with the informant by a familiar nickname: “the big guy.”

Sources who viewed the document told Fox News that the Ukrainian executive, now believed to be Zlochevsky, had paid “$5 million for one Biden, $5 million for the other Biden.”

In other words, a corruption case against the Biden family is on the verge of exploding. These are serious, damning allegations that, if proven, could cost the president much more than reelection.

No wonder Democrats are going scorched-earth on Trump.


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Matthew Whitaker to Newsmax: 'End of the Republic Type of Situation'

President Joe Biden's Justice Department going after former President Donald Trump is a danger to American national security and democracy, according to former Trump administration acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker on Newsmax.

"This does look to me like an end of the republic type of situation: where the ruling party punishes the opposition party and takes out their leaders through abuse of prosecutorial power," Whitaker told "Saturday Report" host Rita Cosby. "And the question we have is: Are we now just winning elections and trying to win elections for more power?

"This next election in 2024 — and really the next decade of American history — is going to depend on a lot of statesmen and stateswomen actually doing what's in the best interests of all citizens, and not just what color jersey you're wearing.

"So, Rita, this is the time, in a moment of American history, that we all should be very keen to."

Whitaker said special counsel Jack Smith's use of the Espionage Act represents an abuse of the justice system, because alleged wrongdoing is absent of malice on behalf of Trump.

"Usually these cases are brought under the Espionage Act when you have somebody that's a spy or somebody that [is] trying to sell government secrets or someone that is otherwise a threat to our country," Whitaker told Cosby. "I don't think anybody thinks that Donald Trump was trying to use these documents to hurt our country.

"I mean, he believed — and I think important part of this case is that he believed — that these were part of his records from his administration and that he had every right to keep them."

A grand jury indicted Trump on 37 counts, and Whitaker said the indictment is a political persecution of Biden's chief 2024 rival.

"If the name wasn't Trump — we've seen through the course of previous presidential transitions where no president was prosecuted for this crime, but here we are," Whitaker said, alleging Smith is trying to enhance his personal career, potentially stretching the law to take down Trump for Democrats and the Biden administration.

"This prosecutor seems to want to make their name permanent status in American history by taking down Donald Trump with a very aggressive, really untried legal theory," Whitaker added.

Going into the detail of the indictment, Whitaker said he sees a tough case to prove, particularly with the allegation of moving boxes of classified documents.

"The left-wing media is suggesting that all boxes were filled with documents he shouldn't have had," Whitaker said. "That's just not true. And, in fact, if you lay over the context that Donald Trump was writing his book of all the letters he's received ... in writing through the course of his career, that would make a lot of sense for somebody to want to take their personal records back and forth from their summer home to their winter home."

Ultimately, this indictment is a biased story written by an overzealous prosecutor, Whitaker concluded.

"Indictments are always a little challenging because they are the government's version of what happened in trying to paint their story, and I think there's a lot more to this story than Jack Smith [is] telling us right now," he said.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsma...23/06/10/id/1123098/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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https://www.breitbart.com/poli...-before-arraignment/

Former President Donald Trump unleashed on Special Counsel Jack Smith before his arraignment on Tuesday, calling him a “thug” and a “Trump hater.”

“This is the Thug, over turned consistently and unanimously in big cases, that Biden and his CORRUPT Injustice Department stuck on me,” he posted on Truth Social.

“He’s a Radical Right Lunatic and Trump Hater, as are all his friends and family, who probably ‘planted’ information in the ‘boxes’ given to them. They taint everything that they touch, including our Country, which is rapidly going to HELL!”

Trump was responding to a National Pulse report that said Special Counsel Jack Smith’s wife made a “fawning documenty about Michelle Obama,” and was linked with George Soros and Hillary Clinton.

According to the report, his wife, Katy Chevigny, was responsible for producing Michelle Obama’s documentary “Becoming,” and is a supporter and donor to the Democratic Party and President Joe Biden. Her mother was reportedly a Senior Justice fellow at Soros’s Open Society Foundation, and also sat on the board of the Human Rights Defense Center, which received donations from an organization closely connected to Hillary Clinton.

assuming it was "radical left", not "radical right"

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This whole kabuki theater show is threefold: to use lawfare to destroy a political opponent, to coverup the real crimes of the Biden family, and to utterly and completely demoralize We the People.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Jake Tapper goes all stampy feet Don Lemon over CNN airing vidoe of Donald Trump with his supporters. Big Grin

Jake Tapper scolds CNN producers for showing Trump with Miami supporters: 'That is enough of that!'

You fucking phony. My cat is as much of a journalist as you, Tantrum Boy.


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Why no talk of an appeal should Trump be convicted of anything? An appeal would be a given and drag things out for what, years? All this jackass talk about him dying in prison should one charge stick, wtf, an appeal throws a monkey wrench in that wish.

Forgive me if this has been addressed earlier, I've heard zero talk anywhere about an appeal.




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Why no talk of an appeal should Trump be convicted of anything? An appeal would be a given and drag things out for what, years? All this jackass talk about him dying in prison should one charge stick, wtf, an appeal throws a monkey wrench in that wish.

Forgive me if this has been addressed earlier, I've heard zero talk anywhere about an appeal.
Appeal assumes conviction, at this point I am not convinced he would be. Also, this is already going to take a year+ to make it through court, I rather doubt this case makes it through court before the 2024 election.


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Appeal assumes conviction, at this point I am not convinced he would be. Also, this is already going to take a year+ to make it through court, I rather doubt this case makes it through court before the 2024 election.


That's my point, all this spin as if there's some sense of finality pending. There isn't, not even close.




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So, why even play into the Trump haters' hands? It's ridiculous to even think about it, when yesterday was just the arraignment. Just let these fuckers make fools of themselves.


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Why no talk of an appeal should Trump be convicted of anything? An appeal would be a given and drag things out for what, years? All this jackass talk about him dying in prison should one charge stick, wtf, an appeal throws a monkey wrench in that wish.



What? In that situation, he wouldn't be out walking around free during an appeal. He'd be appealing from a jail cell. We're not talking about it because it would mean he lost, and that ain't happening.


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I saw this earlier and thought it must be some kind of photoshop. Was that a real banner? Not complaining. After all, there's nothing inaccurate about it.


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It's maddening poor Nikki @ Rolling Stone:
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Trump Plots Revenge Against Biden in Unhinged Post-Arrest Speech

Nikki McCann Ramirez

It looks like Donald Trump has established a playbook for getting indicted: fly into the city he’s being charged in, load up the motorcade, go to court, get arrested, get arraigned, then fly to one of his resorts for a night-of speech. Trump flew to Mar-a-Lago to speak after getting arrested in New York in April, and on Tuesday he flew from Florida to his club in Bedminster, New Jersey, after pleading not guilty to 37 criminal counts brought against him by the Justice Department.

Before a crowd of supporters — who at one point interrupted him to sing “Happy Birthday” — Trump called the indictment against him “the most evil and heinous abuse in the history of our country.”

The former president ranted ad nauseam about President Biden and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, vowing to get his revenge by appointing a “real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden. And the entire Biden crime family.” President Biden is currently facing his own, yet unresolved, special counsel investigation into classified material recovered from his home.

https://www.rollingstone.com/p...dminster-1234771071/

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-p...ly_mail&uh_test=0_00



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Yes, these leftists are getting a little angry and panicky the more Donald Trump’s popularity only seems to soar with this banana republic type bullshit the Biden regime plays on him.

It’s awesome


 
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I saw this earlier and thought it must be some kind of photoshop. Was that a real banner? Not complaining. After all, there's nothing inaccurate about it.

No doubt photoshop. Does anybody really believe FoxNews would put "Wannabe Dictator" on there?


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https://www.washingtonexaminer...-0-seconds-to-bidens




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I saw this earlier and thought it must be some kind of photoshop. Was that a real banner? Not complaining. After all, there's nothing inaccurate about it.

No doubt photoshop. Does anybody really believe FoxNews would put "Wannabe Dictator" on there?


By all accounts, it does not appear to be a photoshop. Fox News really did display that graphic.


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Yesterday, CNN anchors, including Jake Tapper, were shocked, appalled and depressed by President Trump’s reception, after he stopped for a bite at a packed Cuban restaurant after his arraignment. Among other things, the giant mob of fans sang the President an early “Happy Birthday.”

As you’ll see in the clip, the CNN anchors were vexed by what was appearing on their own network, what must to them have seemed more like a love fest and much less like what they were expecting: a chagrined politician just disgraced by his criminal arraignment.

So Tapper panicked, and told the control room to pull the plug.

ANCHOR: Whatever this spectacle is, that is unfolding before us, let us remember what this case is really about…

TAPPER: Folks in the control room: I don’t need to see any more of that. He’s trying to turn this, he’s trying to turn it into a spectacle, into a campaign ad. That’s enough of that. We’ve seen it already. Let’s go over the 37 charges…

Poor Jake. He was clearly in excruciating pain watching how Trump’s persecution is making the former President more popular than ever. Enjoy!


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Fake News Jake Tapper Having A Meltdown Watching Footage Of President Trump At Miami Cafe

“The folks in the control room, I don’t need to see anymore of that.”
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https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBu.../1668719449006850049



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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You have to wonder who originated the liberal-media-cartel conspiracy not to cover President Trumps remarks? Confused
Kind of odd they ALL did this (except Fox) were in lockstep.
 
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