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Two very different takes on this whole document thing. I don't watch a lot of Levin, but I don't think I've ever seen him so pissed off. I can't fucking stand that shitweasel Bill Barr.





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The hypocrisy of the left and their traitorous followers in this country is truly disgusting. They would never put Biden, an actual criminal, in the same category they falsely place Trump. I am sick of the assholes that feel they are winning because they have a D on their voter registration card… supposing they even have one.




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Who is ‘Jack Smith’? Biden’s ‘Special Counsel’ Lives Abroad, Married an Obama Devotee Linked to Soros, Clinton.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2...ed-to-soros-clinton/

“Jack Smith” is Joe Biden’s special counsel in the criminal indictment of former President Donald J. Trump. But very few people have ever heard of the man, born John Lumen Smith, who is married to a lady who made a fawning documentary about Michelle Obama family, and whose family is linked with billionaire George Soros, and even Hillary Clinton.

Smith was appointed last year by Attorney-General Merrick Garland to lead investigations into the former President. He is a longtime federal prosecutor and former Chief Prosecutor at the Kosovo Specialist Chambers in the Hague, the Netherlands. As a result, Smith has seldom even been in the United States in recent years, opting instead to live abroad.

Smith’s wife, Katy Chevigny, is a film director responsible for producing Michelle Obama’s hagiographic documentary “Becoming,” which also stars Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, and Oprah Winfrey.

Chevigny is a supporter and donor to the Democratic party and President Biden. She donated $1,000 to Biden for President and another $1,000 to the Biden Victory Fund in September 2020. She also made another seven small donations to ActBlue – the Democratic fundraising platform, and to the far-left MoveOn.org’s political action committee.

Bell Chevigny, Smith’s late mother-in-law, was even a Senior Justice Fellow at George Soros’s Open Society Foundation. Bell also sat on the Board of the Human Rights Defense Center, which received donations from the New World Foundation, a liberal New York-based organization closely connected to Hillary Clinton.

Bell is survived by her husband Paul, an anti-police obsessive at the NYU School of Law who blamed Americans for the “harassment of people because of their Arab or Muslim connections” immediately after the 9/11 terror attacks.


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Do you imagine that the President has to utter some magic words first in order to declassify a document? That he has to wave a wand and say Abracadabra? That he must proclaim for all to hear like some town crier, I HEREBY PROCLAIM THESE DOCUMENTS DECLASSIFIED. No. As Tom Fitton pointed out, and he would know, when Trump took those documents, they were essentially declassified.


Viva Frei and Barnes delved into the Trump indictment. Barnes here goes into exactly the point I was making. He starts making his case at around 4:40. Seems pretty straightforward to me.



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Who is ‘Jack Smith’? Biden’s ‘Special Counsel’ Lives Abroad, Married an Obama Devotee Linked to Soros, Clinton.


They run in packs.



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They run in packs.
Yeah. A pack of jackasses!!!

It just simply ASTOUNDS me how NO ONE brings charges to these sunsabitches for Treason. They have and are OVERTLY violating their oaths of office to "...support and defend the Constitution of the United States...". They...THEY...THEY!!...are the DOMESTIC ENEMY to the Constitution!!!!!



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The hypocrisy of the left and their traitorous followers in this country is truly disgusting. They would never put Biden, an actual criminal, in the same category they falsely place Trump. I am sick of the assholes that feel they are winning because they have a D on their voter registration card… supposing they even have one.


They are winning these little battles, but losing the hearts and minds of Americans everywhere. Their propaganda campaign is strong, but only the true sheep are being fooled. No one knows how far this will go, and everyone is hoping the voter fraud will not be enough to steal a third election. The anger among patriots is getting stronger every day, which is comforting.


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I swear Trump is like this sci-fi creature that comes and the planet's defenders fire everything they have at it and instead of hurting it or making it retreat, it absorbs the energy of the weapons and only makes it stronger.

Trump thrives on this stuff, it amazes me that the Democrats haven't figured it out yet that the more they attack, the stronger he gets and the more steeled his supporters get, that is the supporters that don't get duped like some here.

The notion that the Democrats are pulling some sort of elaborate Operation Chaos type move to purposefully get him on the 2024 ballot is just stupid and the people that believe it are stupid.


 
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I was watching Scripps News and I thought I was watching another OJ Simpson event, but no, it was President Trump going to the airport. Big Grin



I found the ground level view.


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"All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope."

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Let's apply the Jack Smith standard to Biden and Hillary Clinton

https://www.washingtonexaminer...-and-hillary-clinton

I read the Department of Justice’s indictment this weekend, and yes, it was a mess. Frankly, one can easily imagine former President Donald Trump ordering the movement of storage boxes from one location to another (and back again) and even waving a “senior military officials’” attack plan in front of a writer for dramatic effect. Reckless? Yes. A violation of the law? Maybe. As corrupt as Hillary Clinton’s mishandling and destruction of classified material? Or the Biden family’s alleged influence-peddling operation? Not by a long shot.

One need not defend Trump’s behavior as outlined in the indictment to point out that the Justice Department’s charges in this case are the result of selective prosecution. Consider, for example, the many cases of rule-bending and breaking that the DOJ has turned a blind eye to at Trump’s expense.

In March 2019, Fox News obtained a copy of an internal FBI chart created during its “Midyear Exam” investigation into Clinton’s use of a private server when she was secretary of state. The following comment appeared next to 18 U.S. Code 793 (f) , the section of the statute most applicable to Clinton’s case: “NOTE: DOJ not willing to charge this; only known cases are Military, cases when accused lost the information (e.g. thumb drive sent to unknown recipient at wrong address.)”

Call me crazy, but Clinton’s use of a private server, her subsequent deletion of more than 33,000 emails that were under subpoena with BleachBit, and the destruction of her personal cellphones with hammers sure sound like violations of 18 U.S.C. These measures go well beyond “gross negligence,” which was how then-FBI Director James Comey described Clinton’s actions in the first draft of his exoneration memo. In a later version, at the suggestion of the disgraced Peter Strzok, he downgraded his assessment of her behavior to “ extemely careless .”

That same month, the House released transcripts of the 2018 congressional testimonies of former high-ranking DOJ official Bruce Ohr and former FBI lawyer Lisa Page.

Ohr told lawmakers that when he brought the Steele dossier, a bogus piece of evidence paid for by the Clinton campaign to distract from her email scandal, to then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and Page on July 30, 2016, he emphasized that it was opposition research paid for by Clinton and the DNC. He stressed that it was “uncorroborated” and had been compiled by Christopher Steele, a man who “hated” Trump and wanted to prevent him from winning the election.

Nevertheless, the FBI opened the Crossfire Hurricane investigation the next day.

In October 2016, fully aware of the facts, the FBI used the unverified dossier as the basis of its application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court for a warrant to spy on Carter Page, a junior adviser to the Trump campaign. In what journalists call “circular reporting,” the FBI used a Yahoo News article written by Michael Isikoff, who had used Steele as his source, to corroborate the dossier. And knowing this, Comey signed off on the application and two subsequent ones.

In January 2017, Comey met with then-President-elect Trump to brief him on the dossier. He reportedly told Trump it was “unverified” and “salacious.” In other words, the same document the FBI submitted as “verified” to a FISA court three months earlier was presented to Trump as dirty politics.

When the briefing ended, the duplicitous FBI director notified President Barack Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper that Trump had been briefed and he could give CNN the green light to publish the dossier story. They were all in on it.

Lisa Page testified that the DOJ pressured the FBI to scuttle the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails. Moreover, Page revealed that when then-Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed special counsel Robert Mueller in May 2017, the FBI had no evidence that Trump had colluded with the Russians to win the election. Nor had they been able to corroborate any of the claims made in the dossier.

The DOJ’s documented wrongdoing in the Russiagate case is vital to understanding the current case against Trump. It is no coincidence the Trump indictment was announced the same day that members of the House Oversight Committee viewed the FD-1023 form in which a highly credible and well-paid FBI confidential human source detailed allegations that President Joe Biden had taken a $5 million bribe from an executive at Ukrainian energy firm Burisma Holdings in exchange for policy decisions during his vice presidency.

Sources told the Washington Examiner that an FBI record reveals the executive was Ukrainian oligarch Mykola Zlochevsky, Burisma’s owner. Zlochevsky offered Hunter Biden a highly paid seat on its board of directors in April 2014 while his father was serving as Obama’s “point man” in Ukraine.

The Washington Examiner also reported that Zlochevsky referred to Joe Biden in his conversation with the informant by a familiar nickname: “the big guy.”

Sources who viewed the document told Fox News that the Ukrainian executive, now believed to be Zlochevsky, had paid “$5 million for one Biden, $5 million for the other Biden.”

In other words, a corruption case against the Biden family is on the verge of exploding. These are serious, damning allegations that, if proven, could cost the president much more than reelection.

No wonder Democrats are going scorched-earth on Trump.


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Matthew Whitaker to Newsmax: 'End of the Republic Type of Situation'

President Joe Biden's Justice Department going after former President Donald Trump is a danger to American national security and democracy, according to former Trump administration acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker on Newsmax.

"This does look to me like an end of the republic type of situation: where the ruling party punishes the opposition party and takes out their leaders through abuse of prosecutorial power," Whitaker told "Saturday Report" host Rita Cosby. "And the question we have is: Are we now just winning elections and trying to win elections for more power?

"This next election in 2024 — and really the next decade of American history — is going to depend on a lot of statesmen and stateswomen actually doing what's in the best interests of all citizens, and not just what color jersey you're wearing.

"So, Rita, this is the time, in a moment of American history, that we all should be very keen to."

Whitaker said special counsel Jack Smith's use of the Espionage Act represents an abuse of the justice system, because alleged wrongdoing is absent of malice on behalf of Trump.

"Usually these cases are brought under the Espionage Act when you have somebody that's a spy or somebody that [is] trying to sell government secrets or someone that is otherwise a threat to our country," Whitaker told Cosby. "I don't think anybody thinks that Donald Trump was trying to use these documents to hurt our country.

"I mean, he believed — and I think important part of this case is that he believed — that these were part of his records from his administration and that he had every right to keep them."

A grand jury indicted Trump on 37 counts, and Whitaker said the indictment is a political persecution of Biden's chief 2024 rival.

"If the name wasn't Trump — we've seen through the course of previous presidential transitions where no president was prosecuted for this crime, but here we are," Whitaker said, alleging Smith is trying to enhance his personal career, potentially stretching the law to take down Trump for Democrats and the Biden administration.

"This prosecutor seems to want to make their name permanent status in American history by taking down Donald Trump with a very aggressive, really untried legal theory," Whitaker added.

Going into the detail of the indictment, Whitaker said he sees a tough case to prove, particularly with the allegation of moving boxes of classified documents.

"The left-wing media is suggesting that all boxes were filled with documents he shouldn't have had," Whitaker said. "That's just not true. And, in fact, if you lay over the context that Donald Trump was writing his book of all the letters he's received ... in writing through the course of his career, that would make a lot of sense for somebody to want to take their personal records back and forth from their summer home to their winter home."

Ultimately, this indictment is a biased story written by an overzealous prosecutor, Whitaker concluded.

"Indictments are always a little challenging because they are the government's version of what happened in trying to paint their story, and I think there's a lot more to this story than Jack Smith [is] telling us right now," he said.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsma...23/06/10/id/1123098/



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https://www.breitbart.com/poli...-before-arraignment/

Former President Donald Trump unleashed on Special Counsel Jack Smith before his arraignment on Tuesday, calling him a “thug” and a “Trump hater.”

“This is the Thug, over turned consistently and unanimously in big cases, that Biden and his CORRUPT Injustice Department stuck on me,” he posted on Truth Social.

“He’s a Radical Right Lunatic and Trump Hater, as are all his friends and family, who probably ‘planted’ information in the ‘boxes’ given to them. They taint everything that they touch, including our Country, which is rapidly going to HELL!”

Trump was responding to a National Pulse report that said Special Counsel Jack Smith’s wife made a “fawning documenty about Michelle Obama,” and was linked with George Soros and Hillary Clinton.

According to the report, his wife, Katy Chevigny, was responsible for producing Michelle Obama’s documentary “Becoming,” and is a supporter and donor to the Democratic Party and President Joe Biden. Her mother was reportedly a Senior Justice fellow at Soros’s Open Society Foundation, and also sat on the board of the Human Rights Defense Center, which received donations from an organization closely connected to Hillary Clinton.

assuming it was "radical left", not "radical right"

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This whole kabuki theater show is threefold: to use lawfare to destroy a political opponent, to coverup the real crimes of the Biden family, and to utterly and completely demoralize We the People.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Jake Tapper goes all stampy feet Don Lemon over CNN airing vidoe of Donald Trump with his supporters. Big Grin

Jake Tapper scolds CNN producers for showing Trump with Miami supporters: 'That is enough of that!'

You fucking phony. My cat is as much of a journalist as you, Tantrum Boy.


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Why no talk of an appeal should Trump be convicted of anything? An appeal would be a given and drag things out for what, years? All this jackass talk about him dying in prison should one charge stick, wtf, an appeal throws a monkey wrench in that wish.

Forgive me if this has been addressed earlier, I've heard zero talk anywhere about an appeal.




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Why no talk of an appeal should Trump be convicted of anything? An appeal would be a given and drag things out for what, years? All this jackass talk about him dying in prison should one charge stick, wtf, an appeal throws a monkey wrench in that wish.

Forgive me if this has been addressed earlier, I've heard zero talk anywhere about an appeal.
Appeal assumes conviction, at this point I am not convinced he would be. Also, this is already going to take a year+ to make it through court, I rather doubt this case makes it through court before the 2024 election.


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Appeal assumes conviction, at this point I am not convinced he would be. Also, this is already going to take a year+ to make it through court, I rather doubt this case makes it through court before the 2024 election.


That's my point, all this spin as if there's some sense of finality pending. There isn't, not even close.




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So, why even play into the Trump haters' hands? It's ridiculous to even think about it, when yesterday was just the arraignment. Just let these fuckers make fools of themselves.


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