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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
You folks do realize that a significant number of these "votes" in Congress are orchestrated?

Bad guy this time, good guy next time, you take the hit this time, etc.

It’s either time to close the theater down or get a whole new slate of actors. Enough is enough.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

It’s either time to close the theater down or get a whole new slate of actors. Enough is enough.

At it's most basic level, Marxism is about tearing everything, repeat everything down, rebuilding a pretend brave new world created by out betters.

Our present day one-party system is setting the table for a complete national collapse. If that blank slate is created, there will be two choices, a proven system of government based on our Constitution or an insane world of unicorns. We'll have to be the ones to pick up the pieces, we better be prepared to do so.

We've heard too many times that socialism has a history of failure because the "right" people never implemented it, implying there are people of wisdom and good-will that'll make it work.

Those right people don't exist but the are people existing today who are prepared to rule, a suffocating media oligarchy that has intruded into all our lives. They are the enemy to be overcome.

I was right there with bozman. Pissed at the GOP for hanging Trump out to dry. I still am, but when Trump announced that he was dropping the 3rd party idea and instead is going to work to help them take back the house next year....that spoke volumes about him. I too will follow him to the end of the earth, and I’ll follow him here. I’ll give support back to the GOP, but only to help Trump do what he says he’s going to do. We need to get the RINOs and other turncoats out of there ASAP. It’s the only hope we have to stopping this radical agenda of Biden’s (or whomever is controlling him, rather) in the next two years.

Largefarva...

Like I said, I hope his statement about supporting the republicans and not starting a 3rd party was a "place holder" to see how the republicans performed leading up to and including the impeachment votes.

I hope that he "circles back" on that statement when the masturbatory impeachment fap show is over and he is found not guilty.

He could easily, without being a hypocrite, decide at the end of the impeachment that the party is lost and no amount of work he could do would fix it. For that reason, the only way forward would be establishing a 3rd party.

I know it may be a pipe dream that never materializes, but dreams are part of what established this big, crazy country.

Yeah I know exactly what you’re saying, and its why I didn’t try to guilt you into voting GOP if you don’t want to. I was just giving my point of view, and that is if Trump can give support to help the GOP then I can too. But that’s the only condition that I’ll do it.

If he decides to do what you’re suggesting, which is a possibility, then I’ll follow as well. I have since stopped receiving GOP fund raising emails after sending a couple of scathing replies to them stating they will not get one fucking penny from me after hanging Trump out to dry. That still stands until we know Trump’s end game here.

They are scared shitless right now because they know how much power he has, his support gets stronger by the day. It’s amazing to me to see what is happening regarding this.

Yep... You and I are on the same page.

I will only vote for a republican if they are fully espousing Trumpian philosophies and in the mold of Trump.

I have been saying this since the election. Having an "R" after you name no longer guarantees my vote.

If a candidate cannot prove this through action and their record, then F them... I will assume they are simply giving lip service to Trump's supporters with no intention of governing as such.

Trump could do to the Republican party, like what the Bolsheviks did to Petra Kelly's Green Party in West Germany. The reds basically took the party away from her and really made it the red party, under the green party name.

Trump has done so nearly with the Republican party as of now. He took the party from the Neo-Con Never Trumpers and right now Trump has a strangle hold on the party with what 72+ percent support?

Third Party is doable, but using the same basic approach that the reds did to the green party in West Germany, also makes sense.

The 'purge' of the new-cons / never trumpets from the republican party, will be the equivalent to the purge of the blue dog democrats (Reagan Democrats) by the democrats in the 90's under Clinton and company.

Obama seemed pretty powerful ex-president, running a coup against a sitting president as we have witnessed.

I think Trump has enough fund raising leverage the party will have to kiss his ass.

It doesn't matter to me if Trump decides to go third party or GOP. whichever he decides is the best strategy I'm with him, and him only, 100%

I am getting quite fed up with them being so obvious about the "fix"

Here they are in Time braggin' about the "shadow campaign.

"Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time. They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump’s conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction. After Election Day, they monitored every pressure point to ensure that Trump could not overturn the result."

https://time.com/5936036/secre...0-election-campaign/

I had the same initial reaction of not wanting to vote and feeling that it did not matter anyway. I have cooled down since then and realized the fight is not over. I believe that Democrats out worked us at the local level. In Georgia I know thats the case. They were on the streets finding votes and doing what they had to do to win. Cheating, law breaking, yeah some of that too.

There are still some strong conservative voices out there and we have yet to see what the next 2 years will bring. God willing Biden will turn more people off and the Democrats will continue to show their asses. Maybe we swing the pendulum back our direction.

Congratulations to those who are just now discovering that politics in general are corrupt and that politicians very often don’t do what we would like them to. Anyone who didn’t know that before is either very young and/or naïve and hasn’t been paying attention: “As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end.”

I understand the urge to just throw up one’s hands and say, “Screw it, I’m having nothing more to do with the entire process,” but if that accomplishes anything whatsoever, it will be to make it more likely that the enemy will have his way with even less opposition than they face now. In fact of course, a single vote has probably never been decisive in a national election, but at least voting gives us the right to bitch; not voting for that reason merely makes it possible to be identified as “part of the problem” along with the rest of Group W—and rightly so.

I have never said I would not vote. I did say that I am done voting republican straight ticket. I have faithfully voted republican since Clinton's rein of terror (when I turned 18).

What I have said consistently is that unless the person has a record that proves they are true a conservative and/or constitutionalist and/or Trump like, I won't vote for that person, regardless if they are a republican or not. I am done believing their words and promises. I will vote 3rd party or write in if there are no good republican options.

Just to be clear, I will never miss a chance to vote (assuming I have my mental faculties and understand what/who I am voting for). I also believe that voting is quickly becoming, or has become meaningless. But I'll continue to participate in the charade.

It certainly feels better to pretend our votes matter.

Seems like the new administration is going to go after you meme makers. (If this has been posted I will delete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvqjPy1YrFw

Have you guys watched this yet?
https://michaeljlindell.com/

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Originally posted by SIG4EVA:
Have you guys watched this yet?
https://michaeljlindell.com/

Just watched it (and D/Led to save). The numbers and categories he gives indeed show Trump won. Sadly his experts are not and will not be believed by anyone in a position to do anything about it. The system is corrupt and broke.

SAVE AMERICA!

HA...

Maybe part of what I postulated, and the timing of which, may come true!

From the Daily Mail, so that:

Trump's revenge tour

The Daily Mail isn't exactly impartial. That article sports polls that are, in my opinion, bullshit.