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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
My take is slightly different on the swamp and voting results.

Dems, by and large it's the Dems, do the cheating, ballot harvesting, and everything else in the drunken quest for power. I accept and expect that in nearly every election since their track record for honest elections seems to be fleeting.

Since there are iffy things going on in these elections, I want to see some evidence of the plans, plots, execution methodology, other communication or other markers of it happening. Not theory, not possibilities but actual evidence of the plan and how it was going to be put in place and who did it.

This vast nationwide election made it obvious that many people hated Trump and didn't want him no matter what but where is the evidence of a concerted effort to rig the election? With all the resources available to the government, Trump and operatives who do shady things, there has to be an electronic trail or breadcrumb. There's nothing.

Even if there was a vast plan with brainiacs figuring out the logistics, there's always an idiot in the group who makes a mistake or tips his hand but here there isn't a thing that says this is the plan, Joe needs XXXX number of ballots in this location, we need to stage them and all that.

Evidence of a conspiracy and plan seems to be sorely missing.


Answer one simple question. Why did five "swing" states quit counting at the exact same time on election night?


Same question I've been asking Democrats since that night, when Trump was clearly ahead in numbers in each of those five swing states.


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It's amazing the wild and obviously contrived conspiracy theories Democrat voters will accept when they're about Trump. But, if the conspiracy is the work of one of their own, then it's obviously preposterous. Roll Eyes



I found what you said riveting.
 
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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
Evidence of a conspiracy and plan seems to be sorely missing.

In a word: Bullshit.

There's plenty of evidence. Some of it even credible. What's missing is proof. And why is the proof missing? Well, could be there is no proof. Problem is: Since neither our law enforcement system or our court system stood up and demanded thorough investigations: We don't know. We'll never know.

Thus Creepy Uncle Joe is and will remain of questionable legitimacy in the minds of somewhere approaching half the country.



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Originally posted by SIG228:

Answer one simple question. Why did five "swing" states quit counting at the exact same time on election night?


Because a toilet overflowed in Atlanta. Apparently.


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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
From Michigan report:

2. We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully
designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election
results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot
errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional
errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and
no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we
conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We
further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.

4. The Antrim County Clerk and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson have stated that
the election night error (detailed above by the vote "flip" from Trump to Biden,
was the result of human error caused by the failure to update the Mancelona
Township tabulator prior to election night for a down ballot race. We disagree and
conclude that the vote flip occurred because of machine error built into the voting
software designed to create error.

5. Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's statement on November 6, 2020 that "[t]the
correct results always were and continue to be reflected on the tabulator totals
tape . . . ." was false.

6. The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission
guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of
68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election
integrity.

7. The results of the Antrim County 2020 election are not certifiable. This is a result
of machine and/or software error, not human error.

8. The tabulation log for the forensic examination of the server for Antrim County
from December 6, 2020 consists of 15,676 individual events, of which 10,667 or
68.05% of the events were recorded errors. These errors resulted in overall
tabulation errors or ballots being sent to adjudication. This high error rates proves
the Dominion Voting System is flawed and does not meet state or federal
election laws.

9. These errors occurred after The Antrim County Clerk provided a re-provisioned
CF card with uploaded software for the Central Lake Precinct on November 6,
2020. This means the statement by Secretary Benson was false. The Dominion
Voting System produced systemic errors and high error rates both prior to the
update and after the update; meaning the update (or lack of update) is not the
cause of errors.


https://www.depernolaw.com/upl...0]_v2_[redacted].pdf


Anyone who reads this ^^ (on top of everything else) and still spews the 'no evidence' BS should return home to their villages immediately.

Embrace the serfdom.

$.02 worth
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Boy what a fairy tale story that was! (The toilet BS)
Everything is a lie with these people.
 
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
quote:
Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
Evidence of a conspiracy and plan seems to be sorely missing.

In a word: Bullshit.

There's plenty of evidence.

Flashlightboy misses his flashlight.
 
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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
Dems, by and large it's the Dems, do the cheating, ballot harvesting, and everything else in the drunken quest for power. I accept and expect that in nearly every election since their track record for honest elections seems to be fleeting.

And you accept that Democrats will cheat?
Why yes, you do. As if that's the way things are; it's just normal.
If you accept and expect that... why do you need more evidence?
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Since there are iffy things going on in these elections, I want to see some evidence...

The MSM has actively suppressed it. The Courts have refused to look at it. They all want you to ignore it or to deny its existence. But there's evidence. More and more all the time. I've seen a lot of evidence. The reason you haven't is because you don't want to see it.
But ensigmatic is right, there's a difference between evidence and proof.
To get to proof, you have to have an adjudicator of fact willing to listen to the evidence.



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Originally posted by chellim1:

The reason you haven't is because you don't want to see it.


100% right.
 
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I can take all the bad karma, bad mouthing or whatever else you want to dish out but on Jan 20, unless there's something that says the numbers were twisted and needs the uncontroverted truth that shows Trump won, you have nothing.

I voted for Trump and he was the best thing for the country over Hillary and his accomplishments in seating judges will be his greatest legacy. No doubt.

But there's no proof. There are no emails, paper ballots pre printed on bogus paper with Biden already filled out. There's no paper or electronic trail that points to anyone and yet we're supposed to believe there was acting in unison.

I'll borrow the "Not my president" bumper sticker from my neighbor but you need proof of a rigged election. Trump had lost nearly every case he's filed over this and there's a reason - there's no proof.
 
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Originally posted by Ackks:

Meanwhile, globalists, communists, and socialists just conspired together to steal the election in broad daylight. The future of our republic will be determined in the next few weeks.


Yeah, and don't think they will rest on their laurels if they pull this one off (yeah, I know - I'm still holding out hope that President Trump will prevail).

They cheated, boldly and brazenly, in full public view. They were covered by the idiot dem supporters who see no wrong in their beloved commie overlords, their sycophants in the 'msm,' the gutless rinos who betrayed the party and us, and the globalists who are not back on track to subjugate the entire world. Even when it was so blatant they could not hide it, their supporters drowned out all objections, lied and lied and lied again about "the most secure election in US history"/"no proof of widespread election fraud," and have (so far) faced literally no repercussions from the 'justice department' or the courts. Meanwhile, the msm remains in lockstep with the globalists claiming those of us who see the truth are 'delusional conspiracy theorists.'

Oh, and the hildabeast came out (again) saying the Electoral College needs to be dissolved. I can bet I know why she wants that, too. Since Bush beat Gore in 2000, they wanted to dissolve the EC so a straight popular vote would carry the election (with all the illegal immigrants and felons voting, this gave the dems an advantage).

Now, if they get rid of the EC, they can fabricate and produce fake ballots and operate corrupt voting software safely inside the solid blue states under strict dem control without having to buy off corrupt 'republicans' as they did in Georgia (commentators weren't kidding when they said that, without the EC, California, New York, etc., would determine all future US elections). It wouldn't matter if 45 states had 'honest' elections; with a straight popular vote, they could cheat their way through with the major blue states and the dems would never lose another presidential election (they would have to find other ways to steal the senatorial/congressional seats).

This whole mess makes me physically ill.

Yet, some 'enlightened' folks (even some in this very Forum) seem to think this is all in our heads. "There's no proof."

I honestly lack the words to address these people. If they don't understand now, they never will.



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As said earlier, we're on the brink of having the most far left candidate who dropped out 11 months before the election with a 3.4% approval rating be the most power puppet on the planet.

Orwellian on an almost unimaginable scale. If the D's successfully steal the two seats in January, which they may well..over the next two years they'll do their absolute level best to rig their power in perpetuity.

This is not small stuff. Wait until Jan. 21 when they can drop the facade...

ETA - Interesting people who can type can't read. 'No evidence' = I'm an idiot who REFUSES to read what's being posted, over and over...

None are so blind as those. Who refuse to see.

Embrace the serfdom.

$.02 worth,
Boss


A real life Sisyphus...
"It's not the critic who counts..." TR
Exodus 23.2: Do not follow the crowd in doing wrong...
Despite some people's claims to the contrary, 5 lbs. is actually different than 12 lbs.
It's never simple/easy.
 
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Originally posted by Boss1:
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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
From Michigan report:

2. We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully
designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election
results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot
errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional
errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and
no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we
conclude that The Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan. We
further conclude that the results of Antrim County should not have been certified.

4. The Antrim County Clerk and Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson have stated that
the election night error (detailed above by the vote "flip" from Trump to Biden,
was the result of human error caused by the failure to update the Mancelona
Township tabulator prior to election night for a down ballot race. We disagree and
conclude that the vote flip occurred because of machine error built into the voting
software designed to create error.

5. Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's statement on November 6, 2020 that "[t]the
correct results always were and continue to be reflected on the tabulator totals
tape . . . ." was false.

6. The allowable election error rate established by the Federal Election Commission
guidelines is of 1 in 250,000 ballots (.0008%). We observed an error rate of
68.05%. This demonstrated a significant and fatal error in security and election
integrity.

7. The results of the Antrim County 2020 election are not certifiable. This is a result
of machine and/or software error, not human error.

8. The tabulation log for the forensic examination of the server for Antrim County
from December 6, 2020 consists of 15,676 individual events, of which 10,667 or
68.05% of the events were recorded errors. These errors resulted in overall
tabulation errors or ballots being sent to adjudication. This high error rates proves
the Dominion Voting System is flawed and does not meet state or federal
election laws.

9. These errors occurred after The Antrim County Clerk provided a re-provisioned
CF card with uploaded software for the Central Lake Precinct on November 6,
2020. This means the statement by Secretary Benson was false. The Dominion
Voting System produced systemic errors and high error rates both prior to the
update and after the update; meaning the update (or lack of update) is not the
cause of errors.


https://www.depernolaw.com/upl...0]_v2_[redacted].pdf


Anyone who reads this ^^ (on top of everything else) and still spews the 'no evidence' BS should return home to their villages immediately.

Embrace the serfdom.

$.02 worth
Boss
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Dominion software is dirty. If you want to cheat an election, doing it through software is the way to go. A national election hangs in the balance and our illustrious court system won't allow a complete review of the Dominion source code to determine and validate its accuracy because its 'proprietary'. F that. This issue is far too important. I'll bet $1k that allowing me to act as the PM with dozen or more programmers and analysts on a project to tear apart the Dominion software, would provide all the proof needed to prove Dominion was bought and paid for. The 'proof' is right there, but we aren't going to be allowed to see it.


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Originally posted by Boss1:
As said earlier, we're on the brink of having the most far left candidate who dropped out 11 months before the election with a 3.4% approval rating be the most power puppet on the planet.

Orwellian on an almost unimaginable scale. If the D's successfully steal the two seats in January, which they may well..over the next two years they'll do their absolute level best to rig their power in perpetuity.

This is not small stuff. Wait until Jan. 21 when they can drop the facade...

ETA - Interesting people who can type can't read. 'No evidence' = I'm an idiot who REFUSES to read what's being posted, over and over...

None are so blind as those. Who refuse to see.

Embrace the serfdom.

$.02 worth,
Boss


All this great stuff you're posting is great. And not one single judge has embraced it in any state, jurisdiction or anyplace where judge's sit. If you want an injunction you shop for friendly judge and judges aren't seeing what you do, not even the Supreme Court.

I've ready the report yesterday that someone just posted and the 68% error rate is impressive until you can't show there was a 68% error on the ballots. There is a potential 68% error but that's it.

I'm even more torqued at the idea of Harris than Biden as president. Think about this for a minute and your dislike for her will even be greater.

Harris never polled above single digits in her own home state. The people that voted her into her Senate seat didn't want her as president and IIRC she never polled higher than 6th or 7th. Very dismal but she still marched on to Iowa where it gets even worse for her.

Because she was so unlikable and Tulsi embarrassed her at the debate, she couldn't get donors or traction and she dropped out of the race before the Iowa vote.

She didn't receive a single vote in the primary by her own party. That's a rather dubious distinction. Her own party fired her and here she is in place to assume the presidency.

Joe is going to step down for a variety of reasons and we'll have Kamala for the balance of this term and arguably for 8 more years after that.

Trump has the resources and assets to uncover the people, players and plays and he has no smoking gun or even a dolt who said he was there when the plans were hatched.
 
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Originally posted by Boss1:
As said earlier, we're on the brink of having the most far left candidate who dropped out 11 months before the election with a 3.4% approval rating be the most power puppet on the planet.

Orwellian on an almost unimaginable scale. If the D's successfully steal the two seats in January, which they may well..over the next two years they'll do their absolute level best to rig their power in perpetuity.

This is not small stuff. Wait until Jan. 21 when they can drop the facade...

ETA - Interesting people who can type can't read. 'No evidence' = I'm an idiot who REFUSES to read what's being posted, over and over...

None are so blind as those. Who refuse to see.

Embrace the serfdom.

$.02 worth,
Boss

You are right about all of that. They think they have this locked up, which is why the Biden family stuff is coming out, and they are already moving to phase two.
 
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There are 2 things I pray daily for...

1) That God will make this right (Trump's re-election). Either by allowing the OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE to be heard or that he strikes down those who thought they got away with it (whether it be disease, famine or flood, OR by the hand of patriots).

2) I hope the admins and/or Para have been keeping a list of those who have defied Para's wishes and edicts. AND, upon his return, he obliterates (wields the ban hammer) all of the fools, idiots and closet GDC's that infest this thread.

If such a list exists, I fully understand I may be on it for some past transgression. If I am to be banned, then I'll accept that. But for the good of the rest of you, I hope he does it.

Trump won the election, but a vast and well orchestrated conspiracy robbed him of it. If you do not believe that, then you're part of the problem.

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Trump had lost nearly every case he's filed over this and there's a reason - there's no proof.



There's a difference between losing a case after all the evidence has been presented and tossing a suit out on technicalities or personal bias.
 
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Originally posted by bozman:
There are 2 things I pray daily for...

1) That God will make this right (Trump's re-election). Either by allowing the OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE to be heard or that he strikes down those who thought they got away with it (whether it be disease, famine or flood, OR the by the hand of patriots).

2) I hope the admins and/or Para have been keeping a list of those who have defied Para's wishes and edicts. AND, upon his return, he obliterates (wields the ban hammer) all of the fools, idiots and closet GDC's that infest this thread.

If such a list exists, I fully understand I may be on it for some past transgression. If I am to be banned, then I'll accept that. But for the good of the rest of you, I hope he does it.

Trump won the election, but a vast and well orchestrated conspiracy robbed him of it. If you do not believe that, then you're part of the problem.

Could not have said it better myself!!! Donald Trump is MY president, and will remain so, no matter what happens on Jan. 20th. And I do look forward to Para's return here, and hope the ban-hammer falls heavily!


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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:

Trump had lost nearly every case he's filed over this and there's a reason - there's no proof.



There's a difference between losing a case after all the evidence has been presented and tossing a suit out on technicalities or personal bias.

Exactly! To the best of my knowledge/recollection, no courts have allowed the presentation of the actual evidence, and the cases have been thrown out with prejudice instead...


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