To bounce off my previous post I ran across this at John Solomon's Just The News web site.

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Amid recent reports of foreign breaches into U.S. government computer systems, questions have emerged whether hackers manipulated the results of the 2020 elections — and if so, whether that would trigger a White House executive order on responding to such an incursion.

The 2018 executive order from President Donald Trump addresses the specter similar to Monday's revelation that Russian hackers had penetrated the Department of Homeland Security.

"Although there has been no evidence of a foreign power altering the outcome or vote tabulation in any United States election, foreign powers have historically sought to exploit America’s free and open political system," Trump wrote in his 2018 order. "In recent years, the proliferation of digital devices and internet-based communications has created significant vulnerabilities and magnified the scope and intensity of the threat of foreign interference, as illustrated in the 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment. I hereby declare a national emergency to deal with this threat."

Complete article

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Originally posted by sigalert:
But it feels like a plan.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I agree with this statement. Barr's resignation seemed smooth, with no apparent turmoil -- I can't help thinking there's more to it that we're not yet seeing. I wonder if we'll see him again in some capacity.

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Originally posted by vthoky:

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Originally posted by sigalert:
But it feels like a plan.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I agree with this statement. Barr's resignation seemed smooth, with no apparent turmoil -- I can't help thinking there's more to it that we're not yet seeing. I wonder if we'll see him again in some capacity.

I'm not going to say it's not a possibility but I can't arrive at a scenario or set of circumstances where Barr resigning could somehow be part of a plan.

The one possibility I could see would be that Trump is planning to invoke his executive order or the insurrection act and asked Barr if he would be supportive and provide the needed cooperation and Barr said no. Ok then I need you're resignation. No one knows and we most likely never will. Everything is unpredictable and everything is a possibility at this point.

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As much as I am disappointed at Barr for his apparent lack of prosecution of the commies, I will give him much credit for being honorable with his high praise for the President in his outgoing letter. He didn't act like a Bolton or a Mattis or so many others cockroaches on the way out.

Just wait til Barr's tell-all book comes out.

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Originally posted by vthoky:

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Originally posted by sigalert:
But it feels like a plan.

Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I agree with this statement. Barr's resignation seemed smooth, with no apparent turmoil -- I can't help thinking there's more to it that we're not yet seeing. I wonder if we'll see him again in some capacity.

I don’t see anything other than face value. Beat up by Trump, the media, and both Dems and Reps, he just doesn’t need the grief anymore. He knows his job lifespan is only a month, so why not go out under his own terms? Enjoy the holidays without worrying about any of this. I’m sure he’s going to start working on his book.

If you live in a state that used Dominion voting machines, even if it isn't a swing state, call your rep and demand an audit. The machines likely stole a lot more than the presidency. Also, every bit of evidence accumulated that shows these machines are used for fraud further undermines any legitimacy Biden has.

I just sent an email to Lauren Underwood to ask for a complete audit of the election results. I highly doubt it’ll do any good but I still sent it anyway. I can’t see how anyone can be happy with a 68% error rate. This simply cannot be ignored.

See-Nothing, Do-Nothing Judiciary Unleashes Dred Scott 2020

Bob Maistros

‘Republicans have lost more than 50 court cases” relating to election fraud and illegalities, parrots the traditional media ad infinitum and gleefully. CNN crows of “desperate appeals and baseless conspiracy theories.”

But the burgeoning legal body count is no indicator of legal incompetence, flight of fancy nor quixotic stubbornness. Rather, it’s a measure of the American judiciary’s historic failure at all levels to protect the integrity of the electoral process, defend the Constitution, and ultimately, perhaps, preserve the union.

“Do you think we’re stupid?” Trump legal team leader Rudy Giuliani queried plaintively as the vote heist unfolded.

No, Mr. Mayor. Your well-organized opposition doesn’t think you’re not stupid. But does think – nay, knows – you’rehelpless.

Helpless on short notice to expose and counter the near-perfect crime Democrats orchestrated over months of war-gaming and legal positioning.

Helpless against traditional media ranks closing around Joe Biden and outright taunting the president. (One national anchorman recently tossed off that The Donald “refuses to admit he has lost.” “Refuses” connoting pigheadedness, “admit” a deprecatory form of the more traditional “concede,” and “has lost” a conclusion the blow-dried Ron Burgundy-type was not yet in position to draw.)

Helpless against rules rigged outside legal and constitutional frameworks amid pandemic panic, some with acquiescence of spineless, brain-dead Republican officials.

But most of all, helpless in the face of the high legal mountain to climb.

That mountain consists, first of all, of the need for “clear evidence” of irregularities sufficient to overturn the result. In fact, the Trump team is hamstrung by mindless repetition of the talking point alleging “no evidence” at all of election fraud.

Oh. You mean “no evidence” like thousands of pages of election worker affidavits? Like refusing bipartisan access to vote counting? Like tossed absentee envelopes? Like constitutionally impermissible variances in intrastate review standards?

Like the statistical impossibility and suspicious timing of near-simultaneous vote dumps across four states almost unanimously in favor of one candidate? Like video evidence appearing to show officials pulling out hidden ballots after dismissing observers?

Or even like the executive branch amendments of election laws, constitutionally required to be established only by state legislatures, and passed expressly to prevent the exact frauds that may have eventuated?

You mean that kind of non-existent “evidence?”

Meanwhile, in the words of one prominent legal blog, there’s judicial “reluctance to wade into post-election litigation” on the part of the Supreme Court in particular – still institutionally burned by fierce leftist reaction to appropriate intervention in Bush v. Gore.

Yeah? Where, pray tell, was the Supremes’ “reluctance,” for example, to disenfranchise majorities affirming traditional marriage in 31 sovereign states?

“Reluctance” to baldly rewrite federal law creating a cause of action for transgender funeral home employees cross-dressing in the presence of grieving families?

Or “reluctance” to step in and recast a penalty as a “tax” to preserve an otherwise unconstitutional enactment?

Suddenly “reluctant” courts hide behind procedural dodges to avert their duty to ensure a credible and lawful electoral process. As if “laches” – mere delay in bringing a suit – overrides basic questions of constitutionality. And a state has no standing – “judicially cognizable interest” – in challenging unconstitutional actions, including potential violations of federal law, that negate the actual national presidential results to which their citizens’ votes contributed.

Not to mention another outrageous Catch 22: wrongdoings – no matter how egregious – that cannot be shown without further investigation to be large enough to change outcomes must be ignored. But if they are massive in extent, then relief shouldn’t be granted that “disenfranchises” so many voters – even if their “votes” are illegal or non-existent.

BTW, since when is a theft’s size a reason to excuse it? “Bernie Madoff stole $65 billion? That’s so much money it would be unfair to take it away from him.” C’mon, man. Here, we’re only talking about purloining the entire presidency.

It would have been little skin off various courts’ backs to allow suits to advance, facilitating discovery and deposition of officials involved in suspicious activity and potentially, even disproving charges of fraud, thereby instilling greater confidence in the result one way or another.

Instead, the Supreme Court’s two punts this week unleash Dred Scott 2020 (without the racial overtones). Like the original, they will inflame tensions and potentially, create further momentum toward America’s sundering.

And make no mistake, that momentum is growing. More commentators, even legends like Rush Limbaugh and Pat Buchanan, bring it up daily. One anonymous pundit actually proffers an intriguing scenario, a red county-led separation, that would leave this correspondent on the wrong side of the divide – in a Republican state but one of America’s bluest local jurisdictions.

More important, Texas’ now-spurned lawsuit provides a potential stepping stone: 18 states are now on record alleging a stolen presidency. From there, it’s only a hop, skip and a jump to the Declaration of Dissolution previously suggested in this space.

The judiciary, most notably the high court, could have helped avert that outcome. Instead, in the words of a previous president, the justices could join scorned Roger Taney not just on the wrong side of the coming split, but on the wrong side of history.

https://issuesinsights.com/202...hes-dred-scott-2020/

We didn’t get a lot for our money or the grief caused to President Trump. Barr & Sessions, two peas in a pod. Do nothing scalawags.

^^Chelllim1 - good article, pretty much sums it up. Short version - we're being steam-rolled by a massive system that was allowed to stack the deck, the dealer, and the entire casino against us. Quite possibly the most appalling example of outright fraud ever perpetrated on democracy.

Wait until Jan. 21 when they quit even trying to pretend with this unity BS they're shoveling...

Embrace the serfdom folks.

$.02 worth,
Boss

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Originally posted by Boss1:
^^Chelllim1 - good article, pretty much sums it up. Short version - we're being steam-rolled by a massive system that was allowed to stack the deck, the dealer, and the entire casino against us. Quite possibly the most appalling example of outright fraud ever perpetrated on democracy.

Wait until Jan. 21 when they quit even trying to pretend with this unity BS they're shoveling...

Embrace the serfdom folks.

$.02 worth,
Boss

This shit won’t stop until we make it stop and I’m not talking about the just us system.

An article posted over at Treehouse, from a website called ‘readsludge.com’, published 6/10/19 -

As He Blocks Election Security Bills, McConnell Takes Checks from Voting Machine Lobbyists.

The swamp is very deep and extremely dangerous.

Welcome to another day of gaslighting. Nothing happened, we are delusional, just give up and accept it.

Meanwhile, globalists, communists, and socialists just conspired together to steal the election in broad daylight. The future of our republic will be determined in the next few weeks.

Half the folks in the country just whimpered & shrugged their shoulders and go on as if nothing has happened. Totally oblivious or flat ass don’t care.

Regular Americans love our country and will stand with President Trump.

My take is slightly different on the swamp and voting results.

Dems, by and large it's the Dems, do the cheating, ballot harvesting, and everything else in the drunken quest for power. I accept and expect that in nearly every election since their track record for honest elections seems to be fleeting.

Since there are iffy things going on in these elections, I want to see some evidence of the plans, plots, execution methodology, other communication or other markers of it happening. Not theory, not possibilities but actual evidence of the plan and how it was going to be put in place and who did it.

This vast nationwide election made it obvious that many people hated Trump and didn't want him no matter what but where is the evidence of a concerted effort to rig the election? With all the resources available to the government, Trump and operatives who do shady things, there has to be an electronic trail or breadcrumb. There's nothing.

Even if there was a vast plan with brainiacs figuring out the logistics, there's always an idiot in the group who makes a mistake or tips his hand but here there isn't a thing that says this is the plan, Joe needs XXXX number of ballots in this location, we need to stage them and all that.

Evidence of a conspiracy and plan seems to be sorely missing.

^^^^

Oh good, he's back.

Anyway, Limbaugh is suggesting that without Trump, the old media criminal bastards will have nothing to talk about. Rush isn't alone saying that.

I'll suggest there will be a flurry of executive orders, proposals and initiatives that will inflame the right. So rather than pump up Would-Be-President Biden's administration, the old media can get right back to work mocking and hating the right.

Well how in the hell do you expect anyone on the right side of this to get any evidence when everyone, every entity, is blocking the ability for discovery to happen?

The only way is to put together a case with "real evidence" is to have a judge allow discovery.

We know now from one of those brave judges in MI that the machines, tabulators and methods used for counting ballots do not meet rejection rate guidelines.

We know that states violated election laws in their states and against the US constitution.

There are sworn affidavits and whistleblowers detailing what they witnessed.

Yet no one is allowing any significant discovery based on the evidence that is available. Why do you think that is?

I am sick and tired of hearing there is nothing there. I don't believe it and millions of Americans do not believe it. I am amazed at how some of you IN A FREAKING GUN FORUM cannot admit this or are too damn obtuse to see it.

My ignore list is getting long...

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
My take is slightly different on the swamp and voting results.

Dems, by and large it's the Dems, do the cheating, ballot harvesting, and everything else in the drunken quest for power. I accept and expect that in nearly every election since their track record for honest elections seems to be fleeting.

Since there are iffy things going on in these elections, I want to see some evidence of the plans, plots, execution methodology, other communication or other markers of it happening. Not theory, not possibilities but actual evidence of the plan and how it was going to be put in place and who did it.

This vast nationwide election made it obvious that many people hated Trump and didn't want him no matter what but where is the evidence of a concerted effort to rig the election? With all the resources available to the government, Trump and operatives who do shady things, there has to be an electronic trail or breadcrumb. There's nothing.

Even if there was a vast plan with brainiacs figuring out the logistics, there's always an idiot in the group who makes a mistake or tips his hand but here there isn't a thing that says this is the plan, Joe needs XXXX number of ballots in this location, we need to stage them and all that.

Evidence of a conspiracy and plan seems to be sorely missing.

Answer one simple question. Why did five "swing" states quit counting at the exact same time on election night?

The media will be to busy singing corrupt joe's praises, then do the same over harris when it's her time. The right will be a distant memory.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
My take is slightly different .

Nobody here cares what you think.