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This entire election needs to be tossed out and go right to the house.

That's not exactly how it works.
It's up to the State legislatures. If enough States refuse to certify so that no one gets 270 electoral votes... then it goes to the House. Refusal to certify is our best hope.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Lighten up and laugh
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This entire election needs to be tossed out and go right to the house.

That's not exactly how it works.
It's up to the State legislatures. If enough States refuse to certify so that no one gets 270 electoral votes... then it goes to the House. Refusal to certify is our best hope.

Understand. That's what I'm saying. There is no way GOP legislatures should certify at this point. Needs to go to the House.
 
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^^ Yes. Refusal to certify is our best hope.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Question: each State has their own method of certification. In Kentucky, the Sec’y of State verifies election results. Not a problem for Kentucky, as the outcome was never in doubt, and the SOS-KY is Republican. KY Legislature has specific dates of when to be in session unless called by Gov for a Special Session.

But what of the “battleground States”. How are they certifying it? Is it Sec’y of State or someone else? Are the Legislatures in those States, called into a Special Session to verify, or are they in a permanent Session?

Maybe someone in PA, GA, MI, and WI can answer that question for their State.


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Take a hike, shithead.



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From Just The News-

Michigan's largest county fails to certify election results over absentee ballot concerns

The elections board in Wayne County, Michigan's largest metropolis and home to the city of Detroit, failed Tuesday night to certify the results of its Nov. 3 election, injecting new drama into a legal fight waged by President Trump's campaign in several battleground states.

The Wayne County Board of Canvassers deadlocked 2-2, with both Republican members refusing to certify the results after discrepancies were discovered in absentee ballot poll books. Similar problems were discovered in the county's summer primary and the November 2016 election but did not impact the board's vote then.

Under Michigan law, a county that fails to canvass within 14 days after the election must yield its documentation to the Secretary of State's office and Board of State Canvassers to determine if the results should be accepted.

The dramatic deadlock came just a week after a city of Detroit elections worker named Jessy Jacob submitted an affidavit saying she personally witnessed and was instructed by supervisors herself to back date absentee ballots the day after the election to make votes look like they had arrived on or before Nov. 3. Jacob testified she believed thousands of ballots had been altered.

Tuesday's decision led to partisan bickering almost immediately. Wayne County Canvassing Board Vice Chairman Jonathan Kinloch, slammed his two GOP colleague's actions as "reckless and irresponsible," according to the Detroit News.

Chairwoman Monica Palmer, a Republican, said the refusal to certify results was based on the fact that she and her GOP colleague "believe that we do not have complete and accurate information in those poll books."

Jenna Ellis, a senior legal adviser for the Trump campaign, immediately hailed the decision, telling a Just the News-Real America's Voice special on Tuesday night that it could impact the entire state of Michigan's ability to certify the results.

"If the state board follows suit, the Republican state legislator will select the electors. Huge win for @realDonaldTrump," she tweeted.



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Jenna Ellis: Wayne County (Michigan's) Board of Canvassers Have Refused to Certify the Vote; If State Board Follows Suit, Michigan's Republican Electors Will Apportion Its Electoral Votes

Jenna Ellis
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BREAKING: This evening, the county board of canvassers in Wayne County, MI refused to certify the election results. If the state board follows suit, the Republican state legislator will select the electors. Huge win for @realDonaldTrump



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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The most powerful nation in the world with an election system that would embarrass a banana republic and at least half the country doesn't know or care. Forgotten votes? On a flash drive? Just this info alone should render an election null and void. If the people that work and manage these elections are at best that stupid and careless or at worst committing fraud, you can't have a fair and accurate election. It's impossible. And how and when did election fraud become acceptable in any amount? Fraud and mistakes are treated like they're the same and it's just something we have to live with and can't be fixed.


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Jenna Ellis: Wayne County (Michigan's) Board of Canvassers Have Refused to Certify the Vote; If State Board Follows Suit, Michigan's Republican Electors Will Apportion Its Electoral Votes

Jenna Ellis
@JennaEllisEsq

BREAKING: This evening, the county board of canvassers in Wayne County, MI refused to certify the election results. If the state board follows suit, the Republican state legislator will select the electors. Huge win for @realDonaldTrump


Hmmm, this seems like pretty big news.


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Thank you for staying the course President Trump!
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Jenna Ellis: Wayne County (Michigan's) Board of Canvassers Have Refused to Certify the Vote; If State Board Follows Suit, Michigan's Republican Electors Will Apportion Its Electoral Votes

Jenna Ellis
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Guess it hadn't occurred to the Dims that if they fucked with the GOP the GOP might fuck right back



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Jenna Ellis: Wayne County (Michigan's) Board of Canvassers Have Refused to Certify the Vote; If State Board Follows Suit, Michigan's Republican Electors Will Apportion Its Electoral Votes

Jenna Ellis
@JennaEllisEsq

BREAKING: This evening, the county board of canvassers in Wayne County, MI refused to certify the election results. If the state board follows suit, the Republican state legislator will select the electors. Huge win for @realDonaldTrump


Hmmm, this seems like pretty big news.


 
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Jenna Ellis: Wayne County (Michigan's) Board of Canvassers Have Refused to Certify the Vote; If State Board Follows Suit, Michigan's Republican Electors Will Apportion Its Electoral Votes

Jenna Ellis
@JennaEllisEsq

Guess it hadn't occurred to the Dims that if they fucked with the GOP the GOP might fuck right back


Sometimes feels like the GOP just rolls over and shows it's soft belly, leaving Trump to fight alone.

Imagine the impact if we could get the whole establishment behind him.


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We should put the pressure on. Whatever decision is made, the votes should be reviewed in detail over the next 6 weeks. Anyone who certified false votes should be prosecuted. Make the people certifying the state vote be held accountable. Very accountable.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1328825309219713029

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Floyd County, GA

This is absurd

Floyd County, GA: Officials look for a box with 10 more batches after they thought they were done rescanning...updates to come.
 
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Yeah, that M14 video guy...
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Floyd County, GA

This is absurd

Floyd County, GA: Officials look for a box with 10 more batches after they thought they were done rescanning...updates to come.


Okay, click that link and scroll down on the comments and look for a comment from Logan Hall. He says "GOD IS IN CONTROL". Immediately below his comment it says with a circled exclamation point "This claim has been disputed by atheism experts"

Is that real or is that something the poster put there to troll people?

Tony.


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The Wayne County canvassing board members who are refusing to certify the race are currently being doxxed and threatened by Antifa, according to Ian Miles Cheong
 
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Mail-In Ballots in Pennsylvania Not Registered in State Data, Hundreds of Voters Say

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2020-11-17-6

More than 400 Republican voters in Pennsylvania say they requested mail-in ballots and returned them to vote, but the state absentee voting data say the ballots weren’t returned, according to a fraud detection team that contacted the voters.

And more than 500 voters said they received mail-in ballots despite not requesting them, according to the team.

The team was put together by Matt Braynard, former data and strategy director for President Donald Trump’s 2016 election campaign. The team analyzed the data and set up a call center to verify election inconsistencies in several states, including Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona, where the Trump campaign is contesting the results.

Of the “many thousands” called, the team managed to reach 1,706 Pennsylvania registered Republican voters who, according to the state data, received mail-in ballots, Braynard said in a Nov. 16 series of tweets and later in an email to The Epoch Times.

Nearly a third of the voters (556) said they never requested the ballot.

Of the 1,137 who did request a ballot, nearly 40 percent (453) said they mailed the ballots back, but the state data show the ballots weren’t received or counted, Braynard said.

If the results are representative of the whole state, they could throw into question the election result.

Some 165,000 Pennsylvania Republicans were mailed ballots but weren’t marked as having returned them, Braynard said.

Former Vice President Joe Biden currently leads by fewer than 75,000 votes in the state, according to unofficial results.

Braynard said the team was able to obtain 30 written declarations from the voters, about half of them confirming they received a ballot despite not requesting one. The other half said they returned their ballot, even though the state data say their ballots weren’t returned.

“We have a small in-house team following up on the call center for this purpose,” Braynard said. “Unsurprisingly, when you start asking civilians to get involved in a political battle by signing a legal document, the number who want to go forward drops pretty quickly.”

The Pennsylvania Department of State didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

The Trump campaign is suing Pennsylvania in a federal court seeking an injunction that blocks the state from certifying the results of the 2020 general election, alleging that state election officials had “mismanaged the election process” and that Republican poll watchers were prevented from meaningfully observing the vote-counting process.

Braynard said he’s providing data to several different legal teams.

He said results of the same inquiry in Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona will be released on Nov. 18.

He already announced that the team found 17,877 early or absentee voters in Georgia who had filed out-of-state move notices and thus potentially weren’t eligible to vote in the state. Biden currently leads the state by about 14,000 votes.

The team has also found out-of-state move notices conflicting with votes cast with 7,426 Pennsylvania voters, 6,254 Wisconsin voters, 5,145 Nevada voters, 5,084 Arizona voters, and 1,688 Michigan voters.

So far, according to Braynard, they’ve confirmed 631 double-voters in Pennsylvania and 987 in Nevada.


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Is that real or is that something the poster put there to troll people?

Tony.


Trolling

Basically referring to Twitter using that warning on posts by certain people about certain things.
 
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