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Oriental Redneck
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Originally posted by Ironbutt:
All I want is for every LEGAL ballot to be counted. No more, no less. If that means recounting every single ballot in every precinct, with a representative from each political party inspecting each ballot for validity, then I wouldn't care if it took until Inauguration Day to complete the count. Getting valid election results in this day & age should not be this hard.

I'll go a little further. A rep from each party has to be present from start to finish. No more of this bullshit Dem run state (or Rep run state) controlling the process. One party controlling the process is how you cheat and steal.


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Except... it's impossible to determine which ballots are legitimate if there is no chain-of-custody trail or if the envelope has been separated from the ballot. Once the illegal ballots have been mixed in with legitimate ballots there's no way to separate them back out.

Yep. The only thing that can be done is decide a cut-off point in the counting, and/or toss batches that are mathematically suspicious.



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we are supposed to be the beacon of democracy on this planet

we're representing ourselves as the best country, the fairest with the best opportunity

and we can't run a fair election because half the electorate doesn't understand anything other than how to lie cheat and corrupt the system

so glad that President Trump isn't giving up, and yes, I don't think he has much faith in Bill Barr or the DoJ in general

I've not had any faith in him since he handed down the one and only indictment in the coup attempt and its been crickets since then
 
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Originally posted by sjtill:
I know no-one reads my comments, but I did note this last night: two counties were missing, Antrim and Wayne, which is Detroit.

I make a point to read your posts, sir.

Regarding the extreme lateness of the Detroit counties, this was always the issue with Miami-Dade and Broward counties every election year, until they finally caught and fired the crook(s) playing with the ballots. The 2000 election would have never been in doubt without the foul play down there.

This year there was no delay in vote counts from those areas. Imagine that?

You can bet the same games are being played in Detroit, but zero oversight.



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Georgia keeps finding votes.


From what I'm seeing, Trump is up by ~18K.

If they're finding votes for Ol' Sleepy, additional votes for Trump should also be coming in. If one goes up while the other stays essentially the same, there's a problem.

Any 'surprise, we found a new box' should be under extra scrutiny, oversight, and verification.

This is NOT a small matter.

$.02 worth.

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Exactly!
The 'late counties' and 'late precincts' are hotbeds of election tampering.


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Originally posted by kimber1911:

Correct.

Go look at the 2004 Washington State election between Dino Rossi and Christine Gregoire.

Democrats have experience with this.
They will keep finding votes until they win, then no more recounts.

That election was handed to the Democrats with number of illegal votes exceeding the margin of victory.

Here is the key.
Voter is disassociate from ballot once submitted.
Once the illegal ballot is in the system, it is good as there is no way to match ballot with illegal vote.

Once in the system the ballot is good.

And that is what those evil you know whats are doing. They knew President Trump was ready for challenges after, so they flooded the system with illegal votes and the SCOTUS doesn't seem to be doing much to intervene right now. If they keep waiting it may be too late because as you said they are already in the pool. Mark Levin said yesterday that PA isn't putting the new votes coming in aside like they were ordered to. It is just unreal.
 
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There are 4 boxes that guarantee Liberty in the democratically-elected American Republic: Soap Box; Jury Box; Ballot Box; Cartridge Box.

The “soap box” has been smashed and is being used as kindling by arsonists.

The “jury box” has had the anonymity that was guaranteed during “voir dire” ripped off.

The “ballot box” was stolen and stuffed with fraudulent votes.

The “cartridge box” is full, is being taken out of storage and opened up.

THAT is where we are headed.


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https://hotair.com/archives/al...hance-winning-house/

"looks like" REPs will end up w 209-214 seats in the House. (REPs have 199 seats right now)

218 needed to control the House.

Pelosi will have a slim majority w DEMs in the 221 to 226 range



Senate may come down to run off races in Georgia (one runoff or two ?)
 
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Originally posted by Yanert98:
Exactly!
The 'late counties' and 'late precincts' are hotbeds of election tampering.


Well, to be fair you have to wait for the other folks to report first so you know how much you need to cheat.. Mad






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


 
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There is no way to put the genie back in the bottle. This does not mean there is no answer to the massive fraud. It seems simple, we need a do over.

Considering election integrity is more important than any given single election, the only way to right this BS is to do it again next week, but with proper poll watchers, all laws strictly observed but without ANY non military absentee ballots (no mail). A veritable shitload of scrutiny.
 
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I just got an e-mail asking for donations to the "Official Election Defense Fund." When I entered a donation, there was a box asking to confirm the "donation split." Checking a bit further I found the split was 95% to the RNC and 5% to Donald Trump for President. Do any of you have an idea if that split does anything to further the challenges that are coming?
 
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Originally posted by Ackks:

And that is what those evil you know whats are doing. They knew President Trump was ready for challenges after, so they flooded the system with illegal votes and the SCOTUS doesn't seem to be doing much to intervene right now. If they keep waiting it may be too late because as you said they are already in the pool. Mark Levin said yesterday that PA isn't putting the new votes coming in aside like they were ordered to. It is just unreal.


SCOTUS needs to freeze the count as it was on election night, particularly in Pennsylvania. Enough of this shit. If people want to whine, they can complain to their local officials. Don't want your vote being thrown out? Demand your local officials stop fucking around.


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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:


SCOTUS needs to freeze the count as it was on election night, particularly in Pennsylvania. Enough of this shit. If people want to whine, they can complain to their local officials. Don't want your vote being thrown out? Demand your local officials stop fucking around.

Agree. If Levin was right that she ignored their order to put the votes aside that's exactly what they should do. But will they? He also talked about how Roberts is never going to take votes away and will try to pressure Kavanaugh or Gorsuch to his side with not wanting to have voter suppression stigmas around their legacy.
 
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Originally posted by 83v45magna:
There is no way to put the genie back in the bottle. This does not mean there is no answer to the massive fraud. It seems simple, we need a do over.

Considering election integrity is more important than any given single election, the only way to right this BS is to do it again next week, but with proper poll watchers, all laws strictly observed but without ANY non military absentee ballots (no mail). A veritable shitload of scrutiny.

I agree. But it would only need to be done in a half dozen states or so where the margin is razor thin. A new election, with all laws strictly observed and a veritable shitload of scrutiny.



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Originally posted by sjtill:
I know no-one reads my comments, but I did note this last night: two counties were missing, Antrim and Wayne, which is Detroit.

I make a point to read your posts, sir.

Regarding the extreme lateness of the Detroit counties, this was always the issue with Miami-Dade and Broward counties every election year, until they finally caught and fired the crook(s) playing with the ballots. The 2000 election would have never been in doubt without the foul play down there.

This year there was no delay in vote counts from those areas. Imagine that?

You can bet the same games are being played in Detroit, but zero oversight.

By comparison, the 2000 Election was an Amateur Operation! The 2020 Election is a Widespread Multi-State Voter Fraud Operation....A Criminal Enterprise / Conspiracy bolstered by a Protection Racket! Mad


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By comparison, the 2000 Election was an Amateur Operation....

True.



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Originally posted by 83v45magna:
There is no way to put the genie back in the bottle. This does not mean there is no answer to the massive fraud. It seems simple, we need a do over.

Considering election integrity is more important than any given single election, the only way to right this BS is to do it again next week, but with proper poll watchers, all laws strictly observed but without ANY non military absentee ballots (no mail). A veritable shitload of scrutiny.

I agree. But it would only need to be done in a half dozen states or so where the margin is razor thin. A new election, with all laws strictly observed and a veritable shitload of scrutiny.

Hear, hear!
 
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Originally posted by 83v45magna:
There is no way to put the genie back in the bottle. This does not mean there is no answer to the massive fraud. It seems simple, we need a do over.

Considering election integrity is more important than any given single election, the only way to right this BS is to do it again next week, but with proper poll watchers, all laws strictly observed but without ANY non military absentee ballots (no mail). A veritable shitload of scrutiny.


Or better yet, just go to the Constitutional resolution - vote of State Delegations in the US House of Reps. when an absolute winner of the EC process cannot be determined.

If fraud sufficient to sway the result is evident, yet the specifically fraudulent ballots have poisoned the entire pool and cannot be excised, then the entire vote should be discarded as being tainted.

To re-vote would only invite more corruption and be untimely. The state(s) that were unable to manage and protect their processes would be punished and rightly so.


"Contingent Election

In the United States, a contingent election is the procedure used to elect the President or Vice President in the event that no candidate for one or both of these offices wins an absolute majority of votes in the Electoral College. A presidential contingent election is decided by a vote of the United States House of Representatives, while a vice-presidential contingent election is decided by a vote of the United States Senate. During a contingent election, each state's House delegation casts one en bloc vote to determine the president, rather than a vote from each representative. Senators, on the other hand, cast votes individually for vice president."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...ed%20States%20Senate.






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


 
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OK so much to be mad about but Rush played criminal old media bastards trying to paint allegations of vote fraud on, yep, Russian disinformation. Mad Mad Mad

I was very concerned when I heard 51% of those polled thought the Tony Bobulinski revelations were Russian disinformation. WTF?! All the lo-fo voter knows is they've heard of Russia, something about Mueller, yeah, fucking Russians.

So much needs to be fixed but top of the list is our information overlords. The Nick Sandmann settlement was a start, a grain of sand in a desert. I am so mad.




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