Fraud, or rampant incompetence, or both? Russia and China could not have done a better job of causing loss of confidence in our election process, than the idiots in some of those states.

In Addressing Election Process Fraud and Attorney General Barr Needs to Step Up

By Shipwreckedcrew | Nov 05, 2020 1:15 PM ET

FBI agents meet at the scene of an explosion in Austin, Texas, Sunday, March 18, 2018. At least a few people were injured in another explosion in Texas' capital late Sunday, after three package bombs detonated this month in other parts of the city, killing two people and injuring two others. (Nick Wagner/Austin American-Statesman via AP)

I have thought about this subject for 36 hours, and done just a little bit of research.

This isn’t a “deep dive” into the law on this topic, but the issue needs to be raised and addressed before the window of opportunity begins to close.

Title 18, United States Code, Section 595 states:

Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

Title 52, United States Code, Section 20511 states:

§ 20511. Criminal penalties: A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office—
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(2) knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by—
(A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,
shall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.

Big city Democrat machine politicians and operatives will continue to fraudulently influence the outcome of elections if there is no price to pay for doing so.

The reality of the situation is that these remedies do not alter the outcome of elections as state government officials ultimately determine them to be.  There is no mechanism that I am aware of that would allow some federal agency of department to direct a state officer such as the Secretary of State to certify the outcome of an election not in accord with that state officer’s independent decision on the question.

This is why beginning back in 2006 George Soros funded the Secretary of State Project, the goal of which was to elect progressive candidates to the positions of Secretary of State in battleground states.  That puts the mechanism of the states’ election processes in the hands of liberal democrats marching together in lockstep to generate every possible vote for Democrat politicians no matter how dubious.  The Secretary of State gives cover to the municipal officials by “certifying” the outcome of elections that are stolen at the municipal level because it means political power and patronage.  But that is a different story.

The two federal statutes cited above both define criminal activity, and criminal activity provides access to the grand jury process.  Attorney General Barr needs to step forward and appoint a Special Counsel to begin an inquiry into the cities where there is anecdotal evidence of ballot tabulation irregularities that shifted the outcome of the election in those states.

I believe there is good reason to suspect such scrutiny is coming.  I think the first steps are probably awaiting the end of the first count in some of these contested jurisdictions.  Once that is complete, and the Trump campaign seeks to have recounts conducted, it is likely we will see DOJ activity at that point.

In the early morning hours on Wednesday as big cities in battleground states were holding back their vote tabulations, an email went out to US Attorney’s Offices around the country from the office of Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen confirming that the statute which precludes armed federal officers from being at polling stations while voting is taking place does not apply to locations where votes are being canvassed and tabulated.  The statute “does not prevent armed federal law enforcement persons from responding to, investigate, or prevent federal crimes at closed polling places or at other locations where votes are being counted,” said Richard P. Donoghue, the Principal Assistant Deputy Attorney General, told the U.S Attorneys in an email sent at 1:30 a.m. on Wednesday.

This issue would have only be answered in that fashion and at that time of the morning in response to one or more inquiries from U.S. Attorneys watching events unfold.  The significance is that the US Attorneys Offices may take steps to seek to have prosecutors and FBI Agents present to observe the recounts as they take place, and to take note of any ballot irregularities that are uncovered.   There have been reports from some jurisdictions that GOP election observers were made to leave election offices in some jurisdictions late on Tuesday evening, being told that the counting process was being halted for the night, only to have counting of ballots continue once they left.

Obviously, if Biden is ultimately declared the winner of the election, all the US Attorneys now in office will be removed and replaced with Democrat appointees — maybe.  But in the 10 weeks that will pass between now and that time, the process of starting this investigation should begin with grand jury subpoenas for documents and testimony.  It needs to be robust enough that when Attorney General Barr hands it off to a Special Counsel, there would be an enormous political price for the Biden Administration if they sought to stop the investigation.

The US Attorney in Philadephia is William McSwain, a highly capable and effective prosecutor with a background in white-collar crime.  McSwain has been in a running years-long battle with the George Soros-funded new Philadephia District Attorney who has championed no cash bail, not drug crime prosecutions, and a variety of other ultra-left wing approaches to criminal justice.

The US Attorney in Detroit is Matthew Schneider, a very experienced guy who has been a senior official in the Michigan Attorney General’s Office before being named US Attorney. He’s also someone trusted by AG Barr.  He might end up playing a leading role in any coordinated investigation among the offices involved.

The US Attorney in Milwaukee is Matthew Krueger, another former Assistant US Attorney in the same office.  He’s a bit on the younger side and has only been in place for less than three years, having been confirmed in February 2018.

The US Attorney in Atlanta is an interesting guy — B.J. Pak.  Prior to being named US Attorney, Pak served three terms in the Georgia General Assembly, representing two suburban Atlanta areas.  Prior to that he was an Assistant US Attorney and handled white-collar and financial crimes.  He’s also a board-certified CPA in Illinois.

This list could be expanded to include other big cities where anecdotal evidence of ballot tabulation irregularities becomes known.

The purpose of conducting these investigations would be to bring some “sunshine” into the back-room practices used by some of these big-city jurisdictions where election results suddenly change with a keystroke on a keyboard — but based on reasons cut off from public scrutiny.  Prosecuting individuals who have violated the statutes referenced above as part of that hidden process is necessary to bring this conduct to light, and address it in the future with better and more transparent vote-counting practices.

Nothing will change if nothing is done.

https://redstate.com/shipwreck...s-to-step-up-n275471

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Originally posted by 12131:
So, what are the lawsuits, and where were they filed?

Trump just won one in PA, the courts "allowing" his campaign to have a person monitor each counter.

He has also filed in Michigan, Georgia and close to filing in Nevada. I believe the Mich one is about the gov and SOS making up election laws as they go along, illegal since the legislature has the power.

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Originally posted by oddball:

Trump just won one in PA, the courts "allowing" his campaign to have a person monitor each counter.

Except I'm hearing that despite that ruling, these damn democrats are still refusing access to the republican observers.

^^^ I read the same thing.

The world is watching. It looks like this Archbishop would be a much better Pope than the current one.

https://thespectator.info/2020...ss-act-with-honesty/



Archbishop Viganò: America is in midst of ‘Colossal Electoral Fraud,’ ‘Do Not Think the Children of Darkness Act with Honesty



Carlo Maria Viganò is an archbishop of the Catholic Church who served as the Apostolic Nuncio to the United States from 19 October 2011 to 12 April 2016.

Archbishop Viganò previously warned Catholics on the historic spiritual importance of this 2020 election on the future of this country and this planet.

President Trump is standing up against the demonic forces of the deep state and the New World Order.

On Wednesday morning Archbishop Viganò published a letter addressing people of faith.

Vigano called on good men and women to pray NOW to defeat the enemies of God.

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

As devout Christians and faithful citizens of the United States of America, you have intense and heartfelt concern for the fate of your beloved country while the final results of the Presidential election are still uncertain.

News of electoral fraud is multiplying, despite the shameful attempts of the mainstream media to censor the truth of the facts in order to give their candidate the advantage. There are states in which the number of votes is greater than the number of voters; others in which the mail-in vote seems to be exclusively in favor of Joe Biden; others in which the counting of ballots has been suspended for no reason or where sensational tampering has been discovered: always and only against President Donald J. Trump, always and only in favor of Biden.

In truth, for months now we have been witnessing a continuous trickle of staggered news, of manipulated or censored information, of crimes that have been silenced or covered up in the face of striking evidence and irrefutable testimony. We have seen the deep state organize itself, well in advance, to carry out the most colossal electoral fraud in history, in order to ensure the defeat of the man who has strenuously opposed the establishment of the New World Order that is wanted by the children of darkness. In this battle, you have not failed, as is your sacred duty, to make your own contribution by taking the side of the Good. Others, enslaved by vices or blinded by infernal hatred against Our Lord, have taken the side of Evil.

Do not think that the children of darkness act with honesty, and do not be scandalized if they operate with deception. Do you perhaps believe that Satan’s followers are honest, sincere, and loyal? The Lord has warned us against the Devil: “He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he speaks in character, because he is a liar and the father of lies” (Jn 8:44).

In these hours, while the gates of Hell seem to prevail, allow me to address myself to you with an appeal, which I trust that you will respond to promptly and with generosity. I ask you to make an act of trust in God, an act of humility and filial devotion to The Lord of Armies. I ask that all of you pray the Holy Rosary, if possible in your families or with your dear ones, your friends, your brothers and sisters, your colleagues, your fellow soldiers. Pray with the abandonment of children who know how to have recourse to their Most Holy Mother to ask her to intercede before the throne of the Divine Majesty. Pray with a sincere soul, with a pure heart, in the certainty of being heard and answered. Ask her – she who is the Help of Christians, Auxilium Christianorum – to defeat the forces of the Enemy; ask her – she who is terrible as an army set in battle array (Song 6:10) – to grant the victory to the forces of Good and to inflict a humiliating defeat on the forces of Evil.

Have your children pray, using the holy words that you have taught them: those confident prayers will rise to God and will not remain unheard. Have the elderly and sick pray, so that they may offer their sufferings in union with the sufferings that Our Lord suffered on the Cross when he shed His Precious Blood for Our Redemption. Have young ladies and women pray, so that they turn to her who is the model of purity and motherhood. And you, men, must also pray: your courage, your honor and your boldness will be refreshed and strengthened. All of you, take up this spiritual weapon, before which Satan and his minions retreat furiously, because they fear the Most Holy Virgin, she who is Almighty by Grace, even more than Almighty God.



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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by oddball:

Trump just won one in PA, the courts "allowing" his campaign to have a person monitor each counter.

Except I'm hearing that despite that ruling, these damn democrats are still refusing access to the republican observers.

Disgusting...we had the same thing here in my neck of the woods on an initiative...blatantly non-compliant in several different ways...but they ramrodded it through, and thus the ends justified the means. Totally invalid, but 'the people had spoken' and now we're suffering under it.

This needs to stop. Right. Now. until things get sorted out.

Boss

Andy Swan:

The only thing we did on Election Day was tell them how many votes they needed on Election Night.

James O'Keefe:

Michigan @USPS Whistleblower Details Directive From Superiors: Back-Date Late Mail-In-Ballots As Received November 3rd, 2020 So They Are Accepted

“Separate them from standard letter mail so they can hand stamp them with YESTERDAY'S DATE & put them through"

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Originally posted by 12131:
So, what are the lawsuits, and where were they filed?

Trump Camp Notches Win in PA State Court: Election Boards Must Set Aside Mail-In Ballots Lacking Identifying Info for Voter and Not Count Those Votes Until Court Rules Further

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Originally posted by EZ_B:


Trump Camp Notches Win in PA State Court: Election Boards Must Set Aside Mail-In Ballots Lacking Identifying Info for Voter and Not Count Those Votes Until Court Rules Further

Mark Levin said SCOTUS directed them to do that before with late ballots and they didn't. We will see if they do it here.

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And if you commie fuckers don't like it, go to the gun store and get your shit and meet us in the street.

I'm at the point where I believe that this is what is going to occur. If they want a open fight, they can have it.

I had no doubt he'd beat Biden in spite of a massive amount of idiots in the country. I was less confident about beating the cheat. I made my peace when I heard the Pa Atty Gen Monday night and I realized the fix was in. Now the bastards got my hopes up again and I'm thankful they're fighting tooth and nail for us. If Trump manages to take this election back from their grasp heads need to roll. The overlords have no problem cheating in plain sight and just asking what are you gonna do about it.

I would have thought they would have a plan to at least appear to be compliant.

This could be yet another attempt at baiting 'right wing violence'.

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Originally posted by 83v45magna:
I would have thought they would have a plan to at least appear to be compliant.

This could be yet another attempt at baiting 'right wing violence'.

Compliant? Philadelphia Democrats? Hell, they would steal candy from a Baby.

I will offer my opinions. You may agree or disagree, I am not touting to be correct or know it all. I am simply sharing my opinions.

A revote isn't a good option. Logistically it creates issues. People who previously voted legitimately might not be able to meet a new shcedule. Is that the fair and just thing to do?

Throwing votes out from certain cities or States penalize those who voted correctly in those cities or States. That isn't a good solve.

A simple recount does nothing but potentially solidify data that is in question.

Some sort of audit should occur system wide by a panel of impartial auditors as well as a simultaneous recount. How can a panel be impartial? Pair up people from both parties equally along with random sample QC of the data by a separate impartial panel.

Trust but verify. Upon verification, randomly QC.

The rush should be to get it RIGHT not get something in doubt.

My goal is to remove the emotion as well as the error and fraud.

The end goal of any voter should be to know that the process was true and accurate. One is no good without the other.

Remove the hopes and emotions and reduce it to the accurate pure data...

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
WATCH: Ballot Count Watcher Describes At Least 130,000 Ballots ALL FOR BIDEN Arriving in Three Vehicles in Detroit in Dead of Night

But we were told that total was just a clerical error, not real count....



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Originally posted by bigdeal:
... I'd say most of the votes there are either fraudulent or placed by retards with IQ's beneath room temp.

...or both.



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GA is now down to only 9525 votes advantage for the President.

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Originally posted by 12131:
GA is now down to only 9525 votes advantage for the President.

And they will keep finding new votes to count. Heard some good news about 9k military ballots coming in though tomorrow or Saturday.

My observation: if Biden wins the Presidency, I fear "Sleazy" will crap all over "Sleepy".

I really fear that woman being VP.