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As I said before. It's impossible to script or rig a open debate against Trump. Impossible. The script is always one sided and designed to corner or ambush Trump. Problem is he won't allow it, will have no part of it and will not be cheated out of voicing his opinion or positions on things or defending himself. They can tweak whatever they want all they want it's like trying to lasso a tornado.

Even Cspan has published Trump winning the debate by a wide margin. That's because imo how painfully obvious Wallace was biased against him and people noticed it. If they try to cut off his mike and allow Biden to ramble it will just backfire even more.


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more on Parscale:

https://hotair.com/headlines/a...nies-physical-abuse/

In a statement provided to POLITICO on Wednesday, Parscale’s wife, Candice, also denied that Parscale physically abused her, despite a police report which said she told authorities the contrary.

“The statements I made on Sunday have been misconstrued, let it be clear my husband was not violent towards me that day or any day prior,” she said…

“I am stepping away from my company and any role in the campaign for the immediate future to focus on my family and get help dealing with the overwhelming stress,” Parscale said in the Wednesday statement.
 
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As I said before. It's impossible to script or rig a open debate against Trump. Impossible. The script is always one sided and designed to corner or ambush Trump. Problem is he won't allow it, will have no part of it and will not be cheated out of voicing his opinion or positions on things or defending himself. They can tweak whatever they want all they want it's like trying to lasso a tornado.

Even Cspan has published Trump winning the debate by a wide margin....

More on Trump winning:

The Trump debate decoded: He won, and he won big
By Andrea Widburg

With 24 hours having passed since the first presidential debate, it’s becoming clear that Trump won in a big way. It wasn’t an apparent victory, but it was a real one: He showed his base and ordinary Americans that he will always fight while forcing Biden to disavow both his hard-left base and the last of the old-fashioned Democrats who still support him

Don’t pay too much attention to the pessimistic pundits. The worriers worried, the haters hated, the ambivalent were ambivalent, the cheerleaders cheered. Personality may not be destiny, but it determines post-debates reviews. You have to understand the pundits’ filters.

You should still enjoy the cheerleaders for Trump, though: Here are a few comments from others on the subject, many of whom dislike Trump:

Adam Wren, Politico Magazine: “Trump is winning this debate.”

Andrew Sullivan: “Trump is dominating. That’s the brutal truth. It’s painful. So far.”

Monique Currie, WNBA: “Trump is winning this debate”

Ryan Harris, former NFL player: “Trump won that debate. Hate it or love it.”

Tim Pool: “Even Biden laughs at Trump's jokes This is hilarious Trump knows how to entertain and that wins people over Its sales They won't remember what you said but they will remember how you made them feel”

Kimberley Strassel, The Wall Street Journal: “1) There are two ways to think of debates. a) Did you excite/enthuse base? On this, Trump wins. He was consistent, and made the points that he is running on in this election--law/order; economy; D corruption in terms of FBI investigation/Hunter; handling of virus. #Debates2020”

My favorite metric is Trump’s huge win among the Spanish-speaking Telemundo community:

It's not a scientific poll, but it says that Spanish-speakers, who probably did not catch all the words, responded to the candidates’ presence. Trump was utterly dominant, including dominating Wallace. Trump doesn’t take orders from po-faced moderators.

The world feels unstable and often very scary. Voters viscerally understand that Trump will be their champion. He will fight to the death to defend them. Biden, meanwhile, once equipped with a teleprompter, some good drugs, and an earpiece will say, “Come on, man! Let me tell you about trying to kill Corn Pop with chain.”

Trump also managed to expose what a nasty jerk Biden is. That matters. With Trump, we’re used to it. From Biden, who poses as “Mr. Nice Everyman,” it’s jarring and ugly.

Here’s what Trump did (and I’m indebted to Dan Bongino for explaining it): Trump went after his base with single-minded ferocity while forcing Biden to disavow his base.

At a rough estimate, Americans are 40% for Trump, 40% for Biden, and 20% up for grabs. Most candidates try to get half of their supporters to the polls and hope for 51% of the independent votes.

In this bizarre election year, Trump did something different: He wants to get 100% of his base to show up. He’s helped by knowing that there are secret Trump supporters amongst both the independents and the Democrats, people who have learned to ignore his bombast and focus on his extraordinary economic and foreign policy accomplishments. He made it clear that he’ll govern in his second term as he did in first, only better.

Meanwhile, Trump forced Biden to declare himself (although Biden managed to avoid stating explicitly that he’ll pack the Supreme Court, ending the American experiment). This is what Trump got Biden to say:

“The party is me. Right now, I am the Democratic party.” The Democrat party is a doddering old man who everyone knows was hopped up on Adderall to handle the debate.

On the subject of socialist medicine, “There is no manifesto….” Biden just disavowed the Democrat Party platform, which Bernie Sanders’ team wrote. It’s filled with socialist ideas.

“The Green New Deal is not my plan.” First, this is a lie. Second, this is an atom bomb against the base, as it would be if Trump were to tell his base, “I’m going to tear down the wall.”

“Nobody’s going to build another coal-fired plant in America. No one’s going to build another oil fire plant in America.” What’s that? Did I just hear Pennsylvania and West Virginia throw their weight to Trump?

“Antifa is an idea, not an organization.” Tell that to those Americans – many of them Democrats -- who saw “ideas” clad in black and spewing vile obscenities, burn down their businesses and drive from the streets the police who keep their communities safe.

Trump gave his base red meat. Even those who disliked his style will vote for him. Meanwhile, Biden left his base with a sour taste in their mouths, knowing they’re being used.

Your mission, which I hope you accept, is to go to the polls on November 3. None of this mail-in stuff. Vote in person, every one of you, and make it a straight Republican ticket from Trump down to the local dog catcher.

https://www.americanthinker.co..._and_he_won_big.html



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^^^^ I can't imagine ....


Yes, it makes one wonder how people in the past managed elections with millions of voters before the days of computers or even typewriters and mimeograph machines. At one point it was all done with handwritten records and handset type.

I’m not attesting to the system’s security or defending the process whatsoever. I wasn’t involved in its design or ever even in its implementation at the local level. One thing that I do know, however, is that my inability and failure to imagine or understand how countless things are done has no effect whatsoever on the fact that they are accomplished successfully.

About the process I described, though, that I have no problem whatsoever imagining how it could be accomplished with millions of mail-in ballots. Whether that’s how it’s done, I don’t know, as I say, but it’s not hard to think of how it would be possible.


You understand the law in many of these states don't allow even opening the mail-in ballots until the day of the election? These will take weeks to months to sort out, especially those ballots mailed and postmarked on November 3rd. So again, how can you even imagine this will work effectively in any manner come election day? It's going to be chaos, particularly if there are unsolicited mail-in ballots in conjunction with in person voting.


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How on earth is the media going into project a winner by 9pm on election day with this screwed up mess??




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If there's any sliver of a chance to avoid doing so, they won't project a winner on election night.

Yeah, three words for all these assholes to remember:

Amy

Coney

Barrett

Your precious leftist icon Ruth Deader Iceburg is gone and in her place, a conservative Justice will be seated, and that's where this will likely end up, so suck it up, commies. You lose.


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I agree it will likely end up before the SCOTUS. But I really wonder what the case will be. Each state has its own rules on when/how to count ballots. Seems to me, if it comes down to just the ones Biden lost, the case would then be much like it was in 2000, when the SCOTUS stopped the recount in FL because Gore only wanted recounts in counties he had lost, thereby denying the other counties their 14 Amendment protections.

If there's no federal law on when/how states count ballots, seems to me the 10th Amendment covers each state's method.

And we could have a faithless elector issue too.

Man, this will be a mess and I really wonder how it can all be sorted out short of a total landslide by one side or the other.
 
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If people are looking for encouragement it can be found in what Para just said. Providential occurrence has given us ACB and it totally screws over their plans of stealing it through the courts. They lose is right. To me, it is like the fog that came in as the Americans evacuated New York. Chalk it up to whatever you want, but we are being helped.
 
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I assume RBG voted early if she could and as far as I can tell her vote will count. In Ohio early voting starts October 5th. I am going to the courthouse and cast my vote asap....just in case.


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and thats the reason I think an interview style would be far more appropriate and more enlightening as to the positions and policies



That’s NOT A DEBATE. That’s an interview Roll Eyes


 
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Uh oh. Well, I'm sure he meant well.

Connecticut sports reporter fired after calling Sen. Tim Scott an ‘Uncle Tom’

He meant it in the best possibe way, no doubt, but, oh, "racial insensitivity" and all that. Roll Eyes

Now, if Senator Scott were white and the reporter called him a "bitch-ass crackah", well, then, he would have been promoted.
 
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Your mission, which I hope you accept, is to go to the polls on November 3. None of this mail-in stuff. Vote in person, every one of you, and make it a straight Republican ticket from Trump down to the local dog catcher.



If you take nothing away from the debate, take this ^ and understand that Trump was sending a message to the voters. DO NOT MAIL IN A BALLOT, go directly to the precinct and vote.

Wallace tried to get him to commit to mail in vote safety, Trump answered to the voters, not Wallace, and it wasn't what the left wanted.

Trump telling us that the most important thing we can do is to vote in person.

We show up in the numbers we need to win overwhelming the uncounted mail ballots and it kills this leftist vote grab.

Even if you are a D vote in person, why? Eliminate the mail in BS.. The more in person votes the less the mail in game works.
 
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and thats the reason I think an interview style would be far more appropriate and more enlightening as to the positions and policies





That’s NOT A DEBATE. That’s an interview Roll Eyes



I know, thats my point
 
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Best quote I’ve seen yet regarding the debate.

“I can no longer say I haven’t watched gay porn. I watched Chris Wallace suck Joe Biden’s dick for 90 minutes.”

HAHAHAHAHA
 
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Uh oh. Well, I'm sure he meant well.

Now, if Senator Scott were white and the reporter called him a "bitch-ass crackah", well, then, he would have been promoted.


Man, they just kill each other trying to out-virtue the next moron.
 
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The absolute "wow" I got when I read this....now the left wants a commission to vet candidates for the presidency. After they are vetted I assume the plebes will be given a list from which to pick. No longer can any American aspire to be president, they now have to be "vetted" by our "betters" in the media and deep state before they can be a candidate.

Simply AMAZING...

 
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The absolute "wow" I got when I read this....now the left wants a commission to vet candidates for the presidency. After they are vetted I assume the plebes will be given a list from which to pick. No longer can any American aspire to be president, they now have to be "vetted" by our "betters" in the media and deep state before they can be a candidate.

Simply AMAZING...


That is actually FANTASTIC news. It means the libs are terrified at their chances in the upcoming election. This is also so transparent that it can't help but to help push reasonable, rational people away from the democrat/lib party/lifestyle.

Reminds me of the old quote: "I don't care who does the electing, so long as I get to do the nominating." -- Boss Tweed



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My temperament for Democrats can be summed up very easily, go F$&! Your Blind Aunt.
 
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amazon and "big tech" is donating to biden...

https://www.reuters.com/articl...ctions-idUSKBN26M5O2

I hope they all get taxed and regulated right out of business.
 
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Moderator For 2nd Trump-Biden Debate Worked As Intern For Biden, Staff Assistant For Ted Kennedy

https://www.dailywire.com/news...tant-for-ted-kennedy

The second presidential debate, scheduled for October 15, will be moderated by Steve Scully, the political editor at C-SPAN and host of Washington Journal, who once worked as an intern for Senator Joe Biden in college, later working as a staff assistant in Sen. Edward M. Kennedy’s communication office.

“While attending college, he served as an intern in the office of Delaware Sen. Joseph R. Biden, and later a staff assistant in Sen. Edward M. Kennedy’s media affairs office,” Utah Valley University noted.

In an interview with Journalism Jobs in May 2011, when he was asked, “Has the quality of broadcast journalism decreased over the past five years?”, Scully took the opportunity to rip Fox News, stating, “I think what has gone downhill is when cable networks get caught in all the titillating news of the day when they should be focusing more on the things that are important to people, like following the money and the state of the nation. Having said that, if you’re sick and tired of watching Laci Peterson on the Fox News Channel, then you can come on to C-SPAN and understand the process that we do in following it.”

Later in the same interview, he praised Tim Russert, then-host of NBC’s “Meet the Press,” saying, “I think Tim Russert — who is paid a lot of money to do what he does — earns his money because he works hard and he understands the process. He’s probably one of the best interviewers out there.” Then he turned to Fox News again, claiming, “We are seeing more opinionated journalism on Fox, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, the whole incident with Dan Rather.”

Asked, “What will be the long-term impact on the credibility of journalists if the public’s perceived bias in reporting goes unchecked?”, Scully said, “Journalism in general will face more credibility blows. The most important thing you have is your reputation. How people view you and the organization you work at — they’re going to see things through the prism of that. It would be a shame if we go down the path where everyone looks at The Washington Post and the New York Times and dismisses them as being supportive or critical of Republicans.”

He added a criticism of CBS News, asserting, “The best thing any news organization can do is to try to maintain a level of credibility — make sure that the facts they put in the newspaper or on the air are accurate and verified. That’s one of the lessons CBS has realized. You could see the mistakes they were making every step of the way. They are going to pay a price for that.”

Scully mentioned former NBC News anchor John Chancellor, saying, “If you have a comment by a news anchor that is truly his opinion — and I personally don’t like that — you need to make sure it is clearly marked and identified. Having a John Chancellor commentary at the end of the newscast — which was still popular in the ’70s — blurs the line.”

Scully is “in charge of the network’s White House coverage. He’s even served on the Executive Board of the White House Correspondents’ Association, where he was the president of the association from 2006 until 2007,” Marie Claire noted.


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