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If the vaccine manufacturers have nothing to hide why is there such a lack transparency and responsibility should things go bad? Does acting in such a way help or hurt confidence and trust?

Why act that way? Is it out of dishonesty or maybe self preservation? If it’s neither of those reasons then what is their motivation for that behavior?


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My wife just found out that son and grandson in Ohio tested positive for The Virus.

This, despite both of them "fully vaccinated" and boosted, as well as taking all of the usual precautions with respect to hygiene, etc.

Fortunately, symptoms seem to be fairly mild so far.



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Is Israeli Health Ministry misleading government on Omicron deaths?

Amid talks for 2nd booster, plans for new COVID restrictions, did Health Ministry mislead ministers regarding dangers of Omicron variant?

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/319210

This week marked a turning point in the Israeli government’s response to the Omicron variant, beginning with Prime Minister Naftali Bennett’s Sunday evening address warning of a “fifth wave” of the coronavirus and hinting of a possible lockdown this winter.

In the days that followed, the government has mulled a variety of measures to contain the Omicron variant, which has several hundred confirmed cases in Israel.

The measures have ranged from banning unvaccinated children from attending school to additional incentives to get the COVID jab, along with plans for a new national lockdown.

The government moved to ban travel to the US, Canada, and a number of European countries with high Omicron infection rates, limited school openings in towns with high COVID-positive rates, and moved forward with a campaign offering a fourth shot of the Pfizer vaccine.

During deliberations this week, Health Ministry officials spoke with senior government officials, working to convince ministers to back far-reaching steps to contain the Omicron variant.

On Tuesday night, Interior Minister Ayelet Shaked (Yamina) revealed some of the startling data provided by a senior Health Ministry official, Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, chief of the public health department within the Ministry.

“Seven children died yesterday in South Africa from the Omicron variant,” Shaked said, citing Alroy-Preis. “Sharon Alroy-Preis said that a total of 32 children have died thus far. We must publicize this to the public as much as we can, so that parents understand.”


The claim was challenged by Finance Minister Avidgor Liberman (Yisrael Beytenu), however, who denied the figure and claimed that just 12 confirmed deaths from Omicron had been recorded worldwide.

"So far, in the entire world, around 12 people have died of Omicron,” Liberman was quoted by Channel 12 as saying. “As far as seriously ill patients, we have 81 seriously ill patients, 41 of them on respirators. In terms of the Omicron’s impact, I don’t see how this has more of an impact that the flu. Just as we live with the flu, right now we’re living with the Omicron. I don’t think it makes sense right now to take new steps, like limiting people – 100 people, 300 people.”

Liberman’s rebuttal to Alroy-Preis drew heavy criticism in the Israeli media, and some Opposition lawmakers.

MK Bezalel Smotrich blasted Liberman over his comments, citing them as an example of the government’s “unprofessional, irresponsible” ministers “who will lead to a terrible new outbreak at a painful cost.”

Meir Rubin, executive director of the Kohelet Policy Forum who was tapped last year by Bennett to head up the ‘civil coronavirus committee’, pointed to the figures cited by Alroy-Preis, adding that “thousands” of adults had died in South Africa recently from the Omicron variant, citing a social media post from Twitter.

But a cursory investigation into the number of Omicron deaths reveals that Alroy-Preis’ claims, as well as the figures cited in the media, are based on speculation, rather than official data.

In recent weeks, the Omicron variant has become the dominant strain observed in South Africa, with sample tests in November and December showing the Omicron surging, while other strains, like Delta, remained stable.

A report by South African health officials on December 21st noted that 32 children had died while infected with SARS-CoV-2 over the past 16 days, including seven newly-counted fatalities.

But as South African Department of Health spokesman Foster Mohale told Israel National News, the figures cited by Israeli media outlets and Health Ministry officials regarding Omicron deaths aren’t based on any actual data from South Africa. SARS-CoV-2 deaths haven’t been tracked by variant, Mohale explained, and the South African Department of Health has no figures on the numbers of Omicron deaths, or whether recent fatalities were caused by Omicron or the Delta variant.

It appears, then, that all SARS-CoV-2-related deaths reported in South Africa since late November were claimed to be Omicron fatalities, with Israeli health officials counting all COVID deaths in South Africa in recent weeks as Omicron-related.

Yet despite the massive spike in cases in South Africa – caused in large part to the rapid spread of the Omicron variant – the average number of deaths per day has remained low.

Based on this and other data, the World Health Organization reported that the Omicron variant thus far appears to be ‘less severe’ than other strains.

Israel National News reached out to the Israeli Health Ministry for comment, but has yet to receive a response.


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The CCP fundamentally believes that transparency is a sign of weakness. It’s a dang shame every major pharmaceutical company does not realize the error in emulating that kind of self defeating logic. It is short sighted. Sure it deals with problems immediately but ultimately such a move is eventually going to slit your own throat.


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Will getting that guy fired stop the nonsense?


Have you had a lot of success complaining to folks higher up the food chain, Skins?

Anyone getting the Jab should demand to see the package insert, look them in the eyes and ask the same questions.
If these Doctors/pharmacists can't give you good answers, they should be fired.
This nonsense will never stop as long as the enablers are getting a pass at the local level.


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France cancels order for Merck's Covid antiviral drug

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news...covid-antiviral-drug

France's now-canceled order consists of 50,000 doses of the drug molnupiravir

France canceled its order for Merck's Covid antiviral drug after disappointing trial data was revealed, hoping instead to receive Pfizer's competing drug, France's health minister said Wednesday.

France is the first country to publicly say it canceled an order for the Merck treatment after the company released data in late November suggesting its drug was markedly less effective than previously thought, reducing hospitalizations and deaths in its clinical trial of high-risk individuals by about 30 percent.

"The latest studies weren't good," Health Minister Olivier Veran told BFMTV.


US Food and Drug Administration approves Merck's Covid pill

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news...s-merck-s-covid-pill

The pill, called molnupiravir, was approved for at-home use for patients

The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on Thursday authorized Merck's Covid pill for high risk adults, a day after a similar pill by Pfizer was given the green light.

"Today's authorization provides an additional treatment option against the Covid 19 virus in the form of a pill that can be taken orally," said FDA scientist Patrizia Cavazzoni.

Merck's Covid drug, called molnupiravir, was developed in cooperation with Ridgeback Biotherapeutics LP.

The pill was approved for at-home use in patients “for whom alternative COVID-19 treatment options authorized by the FDA are not accessible or clinically appropriate,” the FDA explained.

Some experts expressed concern that molnupiravir - which works by introducing new variants to the virus - could prompt Covid mutations and fuel a new strain.

“Approval of Merck’s drug would be the worst decision in FDA history,” Stanford Medicine biochemist Michael Z. Lin told The Washington Post (WaPo), adding “It’s almost certainly going to create viral variants that escape.”

Trial data on the pill showed 30 percent efficacy in preventing hospitalization from Covid, while competitor Pfizer’s drug is nearly 90 percent effective.

“While 30 percent is definitely less than 88 percent [for Pfizer], this is still better than 0 percent,” physician David Boulware told WaPo.


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Are the inserts for the shots available for download anywhere? Is there any section that enumerates specific contraindications that could be used for medical exemption requests? Not just known side effects but testing (or lack thereof) with certain diseases or medications (classes of)?




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^^^^ I had quickly googled for the polio vaccine insert and the measles and both popped up immediately to be downloaded in pdf format. I can't find a legit patient package insert for any covid vaccines.


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My sister caught Covid this week, must have been the Omicron type; she had sniffles, congestion and a cough for 3 days and now feels much better.

So in effect, the world is freaking out about a GODDAM COLD Roll Eyes


 
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The world has been freaking out over a f’ing cold since 2019. China needed to stop the protests in Hong Kong and the Dems needed to oust the orange man. It’s always been based on lies and fear.


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Will getting that guy fired stop the nonsense?


Have you had a lot of success complaining to folks higher up the food chain, Skins?

Anyone getting the Jab should demand to see the package insert, look them in the eyes and ask the same questions.
If these Doctors/pharmacists can't give you good answers, they should be fired.
This nonsense will never stop as long as the enablers are getting a pass at the local level.


Do you think it's possible to raise her concerns with the pharmacist without posting identifying information about him? Blurring out face, name tags, and store information is pretty easy.



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How is one to do informed due diligence, even basic rudimentary level, without an insert?

How can one determine the risks associated with the medication for one's specific medical history (diseases, conditions, medications, etc)?

If this is supposed to be a blanket statement that these shots are okay for everyone regardless of one's specific medical history, who made that decision and on what basis?




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Nothing wrong with yellow stickers, right?
It's been done before.




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I wonder where she works?


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Will getting that guy fired stop the nonsense?


Have you had a lot of success complaining to folks higher up the food chain, Skins?

Anyone getting the Jab should demand to see the package insert, look them in the eyes and ask the same questions.
If these Doctors/pharmacists can't give you good answers, they should be fired.
This nonsense will never stop as long as the enablers are getting a pass at the local level.


Blurring out face, name tags, and store information is pretty easy.


Only to have the fact checkers claim its fake because of the lack of information or any clues to its authenticity?
I think we have enough being censored as it is.
That video was posted 16 hours ago and has only 928 views out of a country of 329.5 million. You'll never see this on main stream media.


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‘Israel could be completely unprotected against COVID-19 in a month’ - report

“Within a month or two, the protection in Israel could be almost back to where it was before vaccines,” a report by the COVID-19 National Information and Knowledge Center has warned.

https://www.jpost.com/health-a...virus/article-689749

Israel’s Pandemic Response Team was warned last Tuesday night that Israel could go from being reasonably protected against Omicron to not being protected at all within just a month.

As a result, the team – along with the COVID-19 Vaccination Advisory Board – voted to allow the country’s highest risk population to receive a fourth shot of the Pfizer COVID vaccine, sparking controversy in Israel and around the world.

Health Ministry Director-General Prof. Nachman Ash has still not approved the recommendation – and may not – as more data about the likelihood of developing serious infection from the Omicron variant is starting to emerge.

But why did the committee make a recommendation if it did not have all the data?

The presentations shown to the committee by the COVID-19 National Information and Knowledge Center – a division of the Israel Defense Forces – as well as by a separate joint medical research team could be the reason for what seemed like an unexpectedly bold decision.

“Within a month or two, the protection in Israel could be almost back to where it was before vaccines,” a report by the knowledge center warned. “The transition from Delta to Omicron will make Israel go from being reasonably protected to being almost not protected at all.”

In its presentation, which The Jerusalem Post reviewed, the center showed that the protection afforded people ages 60 and older who received a third dose is expected to decline from 75% to only 25% within a month as the Omicron variant becomes the dominant strain in Israel.

Part of the reason for this is that the vaccine wanes quickly, as explained by a separate presentation to the committee made by researchers from the Health Ministry, the Weizmann Institute of Science, Hebrew University, the Technion and the Gertner Institute.

A graph presented by the Weizmann Prof. Ron Milo showed that the Pfizer vaccines began to wane after only three months for both the second and third doses.
In Israel, most of the elderly population (845,779 people) received their booster shots more than four months ago.
“The excellent defense against infection by the Delta variant from the third dose begins to erode,” the slide said.
It showed that the third shot at first provided four times more protection than the second one but stressed that “the noted protection against infection with the Delta variant for those vaccinated with the booster begins to decline.”

The same slide presentation added that preliminary analyses do not show a decrease in the vaccine’s benefit against severe morbidity, but there is a problem getting reliable results on this data point due to the small numbers of cases so far.

IN GENERAL, the vaccines have been found to be less effective against Omicron than Delta, the researchers said.
“The protection of the booster from infection against the Omicron variant is lower than against the Delta variant,” they said. “The Omicron wave is on the rise and immunity is on the decline.”

The researchers mapped out a four-part scenario that put Israel in a real rush to decide about a fourth shot.
“Within two to four weeks, infections are expected on a very large scale, so the time for decision-making is short,” they said, demonstrating four phases, the first having already passed.

Phase one: Delaying the onset of the Omicron spread in the community. Time estimate: finished.
Phase two: Transition from individual infection events per day to morbidity at a level similar to that of Delta. Estimated time left: a week.
Phase three: Transition to a level of high morbidity, meaning moving from between 500 and 1,000 new infections per day to between 5,000 and 10,000. Time estimate: one to two weeks.

Final phase: Hospital overload as people infected with Omicron develop severe illness, more individuals contract influenza and medical personnel enter quarantine. How long could this last? Based on the country’s experience with previous waves, up to two months.

Both presentations said that by offering a fourth shot, protection would be refreshed and therefore higher against infection and severe disease. That’s because in the first two months, the Pfizer vaccine offers optimal protection: 70% to 90% protection in month one and 50% to 70% in month two.

Regarding safety, the researchers showed that about half a million people had likely recovered from the virus and did not know it, and therefore took three shots of the Pfizer vaccine. These individuals experienced no unusual side effects, meaning that it is likely that a fourth dose would cause no harm either.
On the other hand, they said, “complete information about severe illness from Omicron may only come when it is already too late… In the face of Omicron, there is significance to taking action in the initial stages of the wave.”


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Just for fun, with no wu-flu on my mind, watched World War Z(I took a muscle relaxer for my lower back),

I was astounded at how close this movie was to what we are experiencing.

I make no claim to this movie being a prophecy but it sure is a goofy warning.

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The vaccine we have been told prevents serious illness from Covid. Here you have a young fit population that has been fully vaccinated and the military halts a deployment because of some positive tests. Something is wrong. The Military does not cancel deployments for minor illnesses.

US Navy Warship Pauses Deployment After COVID-19 Outbreak Among ‘100 Percent Immunized’ Crew

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...XgPQhjNCdbYAZ9QIG5Vs

A U.S. Navy warship has paused its deployment to South America due to a COVID-19 outbreak among its “100 percent immunized” crew, the Navy announced on Christmas Eve.

“USS Milwaukee (LCS 5), a Freedom variant littoral combat ship, remains in port as some Sailors test positive for COVID-19,” the U.S. 4th Fleet said in a statement.

“The crew is 100 percent immunized and all COVID-19 positive Sailors are isolated on board and away from other crew members. A portion of those infected have exhibited mild symptoms. The vaccine continues to demonstrate effectiveness against serious illness.”

The ship currently remains in port at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay, located at the southeastern end of Cuba.

It had departed Dec. 14 from Mayport, Florida, and was heading into the U.S. 4th Fleet area of operations to support Joint Interagency Task Force South’s mission, which includes counter-illicit drug trafficking missions in the Caribbean and Eastern Pacific.

The U.S. 4th Fleet’s statement did not quantify the number of those infected, nor how many among them are exhibiting mild symptoms.

The specific COVID-19 variant has yet to be determined. The ship is following Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines for contact tracing and testing.

COVID-19 cases have recently increased drastically across the United States amid the spread of the contagious Omicron variant.

The ship is also “following an aggressive mitigation strategy” in accordance with Navy and CDC guidelines.

In early 2020, a separate Navy warship, the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt that was operating in the Pacific region, was sidelined for about 10 weeks in Guam owing to an outbreak of COVID-19. About 1,000 of the 4,800 sailors on the ship got infected, and a 41-year-old sailor died from COVID-19.

About 4,000 sailors were moved ashore for quarantine and treatment while about 800 remained aboard to protect and run the high-tech systems, including the nuclear reactors that run the vessel.

More than 98 percent of all active-duty sailors have been fully vaccinated, according to the latest data from the Navy.


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I didn't research this but I bet the results would be appalling. When in the past has the FDA approved a vaccine (mRNA variants) for domestic use that had a durability of ~6 months on initial use? Obviously, that means peak protection is 'less than' six months. Then apparently the 'boosters' are now good for maybe 30-60 days meaning their peak effectiveness is what, a couple weeks, according to the Israelis? And the new Merck prescription drug just approved by FDA has an efficacy of ~30% in preventing severe symptoms?

What's next, cars with airbags that deploy 30% of the time?

When in the past would any of this have been deemed acceptable/ (Hint: Prior to billions of dollars being available to the drug companies and those groups and politicians they own.)


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When in the past has the FDA approved a vaccine (mRNA variants) for domestic use that had a durability of ~6 months on initial use?

NEVER...Until 2021! The COVID-19 'Vaccine' is the first mRNA Vaccine EVER Approved by the FDA! Kinda adds new meaning to 'Experimental Use', doesn't it! Roll Eyes


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