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Biden reverses course, declares COVID must be solved by states and not feds

Well then drop the effing mandates and let the states deal with it as it's supposed to be. A-hole.

CDC Makes Major Changes To Covid Isolation Recos, Treats Unboosted As Unvaxxed For Quarantines

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...unvaxxed-quarantines

And so, the "scientific" goal posts move again.

With even Biden this close to admitting defeat over covid, admitting today that "there is no Federal solution" before quietly getting out of Dodge, the CDC announced late on Monday that is slashing its previous self-isolation recommended period in half, and telling people who have Covid-19 to isolate themselves from others for 5 days if they aren’t experiencing symptoms, down from 10 days previously.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also said in a statement Monday that following the 5-day isolation period, people with Covid-19 should wear a mask for 5 days when they are around other people. The new guidance supplants previous recommendations that said people who have tested positive for the virus should isolate for 10 days.

While Omicron has been documented to be far more mild than prior versions of covid, cases are still expected to surge in the U.S. following the holidays, threatening confusion and chaos among who are infected or exposed to the virus. The shorter isolation and quarantine periods will allow people to return to work or school sooner than previously permitted.

The CDC said in its statement that the shift in guidance was motivated by scienceTM showing the majority of coronavirus transmission occurs early in the course of the illness, in the first day or two before the onset of symptoms and the two to three days that follow.

The CDC also updated its recommended quarantine period for people who have been exposed to Covid-19. For those who are unvaccinated or who are eligible for a booster shot but haven’t yet received one, the agency recommends a five-day quarantine, followed by strict use of a mask for five more days despite copious research demonstrating that masks have little impact on virus spread, and despite the fact that the cities with the most aggressive mask requirements have emerged as the biggest covid epicenters.

If a five-day quarantine isn’t feasible, an exposed person should wear a well-fitting mask, such as an N95, at all times when around others for 10 days after exposure, the CDC recommended.

Meanwhile, individuals who have received a booster shot don’t need to quarantine following an exposure, but should wear a mask for 10 days, the CDC said. If symptoms occur, individuals should quarantine until a negative test confirms that they don’t have Covid-19. Then again, if symptoms occur after taking a booster shot, perhaps it is time to realize that something is very wrong with the "expert" recommendations...

In other words, in a remarkable departure meant to stigmatize not just the unvaxxed but those without a booster shot, vaccinated but unboosted people are will now treated as "unvaccinated" when it comes to close contact quarantines. This, as a social worker noted on Twitter....

"would wreak havoc on school attendance for unboosted kids and teachers! I can't emphasize enough how this would totally derail the school year. All unboosted teachers would miss 5 days of school EVERY TIME one of their students test positive. And 12-15 year olds who are >6mo out from their 2nd dose aren't even booster eligible!"



According to Bloomberg, the new guidance "could entice more Americans to seek another dose of a vaccine", although with millions of "breakthrough" cases amid residual concerns about vaccine side-effects, it's unclear just how the billionaire's media empire came to this profound conclusion. Just under one-third of fully vaccinated people in the U.S. have received a booster, according to the CDC. We don't expect this number to rise substantially.

this is a more complete video of the woman who hit the man on the plane and spit on him

video at

https://twitter.com/i/status/1475345490443218944

8+ million views. She's famous

All he had to do was call her a bitch and she crossed the line. Freakin' whackadoo woman. Stone cold crazy. I pity anyone who has ever dated you. Of course, your next date may be Large Marge in D Block. I hope you can still squeeze into that old cheerleader outfit. Marge is gonna insist.

COVID-19 booster to be given 3 months after 2nd dose, not 6

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-689887

Israel will move forward with administering third coronavirus vaccine shots only three months after second shots, Health Ministry Director-General Nachman Ash said on Monday.

Ash was affirming a recommendation made last week by the Pandemic Advisory Committee and the COVID-19 Vaccination Advisory Board.

The committees had also recommended that a fourth shot be administered to people over the age of 60, individuals who are immunosuppressed and medical workers. Ash did not yet approve that recommendation.

The country made the decision to speed up the booster shot as the Omicron variant is spreading throughout Israel. Studies by Pfizer and Sheba Medical Center at Tel Hashomer have shown that three shots are necessary to ensure stronger immunity against the variant.
In Sheba’s study, which was released mid-December, researchers found that individuals who received their second dose five or six months ago did not have any neutralization ability against the Omicron variant.

Until now, a minimum of five months had to pass before people were eligible to receive a third shot, except in special cases.
Ash said that the new protocol applies for people who receive any of the vaccines available in Israel: Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZeneca - and in any combination. He noted that while one can combine vaccines, it is recommended to get a third shot of the same vaccine received for the first two shots.
Finally, those who recovered and were then vaccinated are also eligible for the booster, so long as three months have passed.

To date, Israel has administered 4.2 million third shots. There are a million Israelis who have had two shots five or more months ago and have not gotten their boosters, according to Head of Public Health Services Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, and another 325,000 who had two shots more recently and would now be eligible for the third dose.

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
Meanwhile, across the border, Alberta Health Services is pleading with the "unimmunized" health workers it dismissed to come back to work and also pay for their own china-virus tests.

It's happening here, too.

A nurse we know was given the boot for refusing the jab. W/in the last week they contacted her, asking her to come back, for more money

The 'rate' she would agree to come back at should far exceed (as in 50% exceed) her previous salary if she even considered going back. Stupid should be painful, and expensive.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
COVID-19 booster to be given 3 months after 2nd dose,

How long before the recommendation is to have an IV vaccine drip installed so you can enjoy this snake oil protection 24/7? This is absurd, and it's mind boggling a large group of people in this country don't get it. Wake up. The 'vaccines' (which they are not) accomplish little to nothing of value.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
Meanwhile, across the border, Alberta Health Services is pleading with the "unimmunized" health workers it dismissed to come back to work and also pay for their own china-virus tests.

It's happening here, too.

A nurse we know was given the boot for refusing the jab. W/in the last week they contacted her, asking her to come back, for more money

The 'rate' she would agree to come back at should far exceed (as in 50% exceed) her previous salary if she even considered going back. Stupid should be painful, and expensive.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
COVID-19 booster to be given 3 months after 2nd dose,

How long before the recommendation is to have an IV vaccine drip installed so you can enjoy this snake oil protection 24/7? This is absurd, and it's mind boggling a large group of people in this country don't get it. Wake up. The 'vaccines' (which they are not) accomplish little to nothing of value.

50%? Try 200-300%, If management is gonna treat you like shit once, they will do it again. AS soon as they can dispose of you they will. If you are going to be treated as contracted help, get contractor pay.

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Don't be surprised if we see vaccine passport requirements for interstate travel in the coming days/weeks/months. Imagine not being able to go to another state unless you have been fully vaccinated. This is the direction we're headed.

Good grief stop please.

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Don't be surprised if we see vaccine passport requirements for interstate travel in the coming days/weeks/months.

Even if such a thing was not absolutely unenforceable, it's never going to happen. Let's not get silly.

A the very least she's banned from Delta for life. Hopefully she will be put on the no-fly list for all airlines. As far as Federal prosecution, I'm curious how the Federal Prosecutors are handling cases like this.

And to Bigdeal - I've been on about 18 commercial flight segments since the "lockdowns" and mask mandates started, and I haven't seen anyone act like this crazy bitch. Most people do their best to just get through the added hassles of flying nowadays. On my first flight after about a year of no flying, a flight crew member taking his break in a 1st class seat across the aisle reminded me to re-mask in between sips of my drink. It's stupid and pointless, but I wasn't drinking it fast (vodka rocks) so I did the best I could and didn't argue.

It amazes me how many people don't realize that when you are on a commercial aircraft, the word of the crew is law, and the word of the captain is the supreme court.

My speculation is she had a few drinks to boost her to +P+Karen.

To clarify:

All vaccines until now have been based on inactivated viruses. Since viruses aren't exactly "living" even when they are functional, the term inactivated is used to mean it is incapable of infecting your cells and replicating. As such, your body develops immunity to the "whole virus". This means that minor mutations in one part of the virus may still not prevent your defenses from identifying and fighting against the other parts of the virus.

The mRNA "vaccines" were specifically targeted at ONLY the spike protein, and none of the rest of the virus. The spike protein is the mechanism of infecting your cells so it "made sense" to target it. Unfortunately, if the spike protein mutates, you lose some immunity. Since the rest of the virus was not part of the vaccine your immune system has nothing else to go on.

They are not "gene therapy" since they do not modify your DNA. People using that term are misusing it either out of ignorance or intent to use sensationalism.

COVID is unlike most other virus we are familiar with in that it has virtually no mortality for children and mortality increases exponentially with age. If you wanted to create a population control virus to target the elderly that are no longer productive, but not the young, it seems this is pretty much the ideal virus. The fact that it came of a Chinese research lab might give you pause to consider this as the intent, given their aging population and impending population crisis caused by 40 years of one-child policy.

The vaccines have been shown to be effective against the original strain, which means they drop your age about 20 years. If you are 60 and vaccinated, your immunity is similar to a 40 year old who is unvaccinated. In most cases they do reduce the severity of illness if you get infected. "Breakthrough" infections can happen, especially in elderly people. With all the numbers people are throwing around, you need cut the data by age AND vaccine status to get the full picture.

The inactivated virus vaccines (J&J, plus the ones made in China and Europe) have shown to be much less effective. Brazil found the Chinese made vaccine to be essentially useless. It takes a LONG time to develop these, usually 5-10 years and the ones developed so far don't work, so more development needs to be done. This is why Pfizer and Moderna pursued mRNA vaccines - speed of implementation - since the underlying technology had already been developed over the last two decades. Basically going the mRNA route was the only chance of having a vaccine that works (sort of) in a year.

However, for any variant that includes a mutation of the spike protein you will be less immune to it because the vaccines are all based on the original spike protein. BUT the COVID spike protein is more or less the IDEAL genetic design for infecting respiratory system cells (and that is exactly what the Wuhan lab was trying to do), so any mutation will make it less infectious to respiratory cells. This is what we are seeing with Omicron - it is more transmissible but less infectious, and seems to cause something more like a head cold than pneumonia.

The real insanity is treating Omicron like it's the original strain - it's not. Since it transmits more easily, freaking out about "cases" which really means "positive test" and not "ill with symptoms" is pure fear mongering. COVID is turning into a common cold, more or less. Common colds are also Coronaviruses. But we are cancelling 1000's of flights due to flight and cabin crew with positive tests that have to quarantine. COVID already jumped the shark, and we need to stop replaying the jump over and over in slow motion.

At this point I think it's highly likely that the common cold Coronaviruses originally were much more severe, and over a long period of time became the endemic annoyances they are today. COVID will be another one.

This all points to the shear folly of mass testing people, calling positive tests "cases" and quarantining people that have no signs of illness. We simply have never done this before - we only quarantined those that were ill and confirmed to be infected either by examination or testing.

My uncle had polio as a kid, my mom, her sister, and other brother all lived in the same relatively small apartment (part of an extended family home). The other kids didn't get it, but I suppose it's possible they got "infected" enough to show positive on a test, but had no symptoms because their immune systems took care of it.

Short answer:

The mRNA vaccines do work (sort of) as intended but they do not confer complete immunity. As the virus mutates it essentially can "get around" the vaccines, but in doing so becomes less severe. mRNA technology was the only chance at developing a vaccine with any chance of working in the time available. They are not perfect, there are side effects like Myocarditis at around 1:25,000 probability, and they absolutely should NOT be mandated to all, certainly not to children who have almost zero risk of mortality from COVID, or to people that have already recovered from COVID.

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My speculation is she had a few drinks to boost her to +P+Karen.

Not even Delta Elite can handle that. Not recommended.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
My speculation is she had a few drinks to boost her to +P+Karen.

Not even Delta Elite can handle that. Not recommended.

Perhaps, but given the amount of time I've spent in business class or first class cabins with unlimited drinks (especially long haul international flights) I've still never seen anyone act up like this. Then again, we are professionals...

I think this is just how she is, and any alcohol just pushed her a little more in that direction. The prior charges tend to support this.

^^^

Yep.

It only increased her aggressiveness.

Not that it was the cause.

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But we are cancelling 1000's of flights due to flight and cabin crew with positive tests that have to quarantine.

I'm hearing rumors that actually a lot of these people are just using covid as an excuse to get their Christmas and New Year's off. Meaning they're faking a positive test. Hey, who can say? It's the perfect excuse though isn't it?

^^^Bingo^^^

For the past 12+ months, even a bit more, crews have been threatened with their jobs and livelihoods over this. Some were forced initially to jab in order to keep flying, others strung along with religious and medical exemptions decided by some third party vendor in order to isolate the company legally. Now, it’s all starting over with boosters. Folks are done with it. They’ve decided to spend some well earned time with their families while they can and have the fiscal means to do so. Ramp crews have left. Deice crews have left. Baggage handlers have left.

FJB

Craplebee’s

Way to go NYPD

Don’t you have any real crime to be responding to, not a young unvaccinated mother and her kids eating out?

So courageous those cops.