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My son have to take the jab before returning to UW, and is his last year in college this is fucking bs.


Take online classes.



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Australians protest the new lockdowns; scores arrested.

New Zealand locks down the country over one COVID case.
India with 34,000 active cases, and 540 new cases in last 24 hours, continues lessening restrictions.

It’s no wonder people don’t trust the government, with such disparate responses.

Who do you believe if you can’t make head or tails of the .gov response?





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All Doctors Know…

…that widespread community mask wearing does nothing to reduce or prohibit the spread of a respiratory virus.

…that masks, after being worn, are treated as a hazardous material.

…that masks limit the free intake of oxygen.

…that masks limit the proper exhalation of CO2.

…that those not properly trained in wearing a mask do not wear masks properly or effectively

…that the constant touching of one’s face due to mask wearing introduces more risk than not wearing a mask at all.

…that man has been dealing with corona viruses for all of history…and has survived just fine.

…that viruses mutate.

…that a healthy body is the best defense against serious complications from a viral infection.

…that individuals with multiple co-morbidities are most susceptible to serious complications or even death from any exposure to a respiratory infection.

…that it normally takes 7-10 years or more to receive approval for any new drug treatment or medical device.

…that no vaccine for a corona virus has ever successfully made it through clinical trials.

…that this is also true for the current jab, as the clinical trial is ongoing – now including billions of people around the world.

…that an effective vaccine doesn’t require booster shots within a few months.

…that antibodies derived from the illness provide better immunity than antibodies derived, or concocted, via a vaccine.

…vaccinating someone who already has antibodies for a given virus is dangerous.

Conclusion

All doctors know these things. Yet very few doctors are saying any of these.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/20...to/all-doctors-know/



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Interesting article from Nov. 16, 2015 from "TheScientist".

https://www.the-scientist.com/...riggers-debate-34502

Lab-Made Coronavirus Triggers Debate

The creation of a chimeric SARS-like virus has scientists discussing the risks of gain-of-function research.

"Ralph Baric, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, last week (November 9) published a study of his team's efforts to engineer a virus with a surface protein of the SHC014 coronavirus, found in horseshoe bats in China, and the backbone of one that causes human-like severe acute respiratory syndrome(SARS) in mice. The hybrid virus could infect human airway cells and caused disease in....."


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Jesse Jackson & wife, hospitalized with COVID-19

https://nypost.com/2021/08/21/...lized-with-covid-19/

The Rev. Jesse Jackson and his wife have been hospitalized in Chicago after testing positive for COVID-19, according to a statement on Sunday.

The 79-year-old political activist and minister contracted the virus despite being vaccinated back in January, in a publicity blitz meant to encourage black people to get a jab.

A month after getting vaccinated, Jackson, who suffers from Parkinson’s disease, underwent gallbladder surgery.

He and his wife, Jacqueline Jackson, 77, are being treated at Northwestern Memorial Hospital in Chicago

“Doctors are currently monitoring the condition of both,” according to a Rainbow PUSH Coalition statement approved by the couple’s son, Jonathan Jackson.

“There are no further updates at this time,” the statement said. “We will provide updates as they become available.”

“Anyone who has been around either of them for the last five or six days should follow the CDC guidelines.”


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Repeat after me:

"I need...antibodies! I need...antibodies!"

The old guys will get it


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The State Supreme Court slapped the Frankfort Diktator up side the head with a 2x4. While these measures were initiated due to the CoVid, it also has far reaching ramifications for other actions during other crises.

The State Legislature meets only for either 30 days or 60 days (working days) in alternate years. Anything beyond that and they have to be called into Special Session. The State Legislature is currently veto-proof super-majority Republican-controlled.

https://www.whas11.com/article...b6-acd2-0a2f8f43ec32

Kentucky Supreme Court unanimously rules laws limiting governor's emergency orders stand

The ruling now allows laws that limit Beshear's emergency powers to go into effect after an injection blocking the laws was granted in March

FRANKFORT, Ky. — The Kentucky Supreme Court has unanimously ruled a temporary injunction blocking new laws that limit Gov. Andy Beshear's emergency authority powers was "improper."

In March, the injunction was granted to Beshear's legal team by the Franklin Circuit Court. The state's highest court is now sending the ruling back to the Franklin Circuit Court and ordering the new laws to go into effect.

The 34-page order said that the challenged legislation was lawfully passed and that Beshear's compliant "does not present a substantial legal question that would necessitate staying the effectiveness of legislation" and that "the Franklin Circuit Court abused its discretion in finding otherwise."

Saturday’s Supreme Court ruling now allows the following laws to go into effect:

House Bill 1, a wide-ranging "reopen bill," would allow businesses to reopen if they follow CDC guidelines

Senate Bill 1 which limits the governor's emergency orders to 30 days unless it was extended by the General Assembly. It also prevents the governor from issuing any new executive orders related to the same emergency without also receiving approval from the state legislature.

Senate Bill 2 which gives the General Assembly more say in emergency regulations.

The unanimous ruling sided with Attorney General Daniel Cameron, who filed the challenge to the injunction. This comes on the heels of Cameron filing the latest challenge to a Beshear executive order, a mask mandate in schools.
Thursday, a federal judge ruled Gov. Andy Beshear's executive order requiring masks in Kentucky schools is unlawful. However, the Kentucky Board of Education's mask mandate for public schools, which is separate from Beshear's order, is not impacted by the judge's ruling and remains in effect.

Gov. Andy Beshear's office released a statement following the ruling.

"The court’s order will dissolve Kentucky’s entire state of emergency for the COVID-19 pandemic. It either eliminates or puts at risk large amounts of funding, steps we have taken to increase our health care capacity, expanded meals for children and families, measures to fight COVID-19 in long-term care facilities, worker’s compensation for front-line workers who contract COVID-19 as well as the ability to fight price gouging. It will further prevent the governor from taking additional steps such as a general mask mandate. The administration will work to determine whether the General Assembly would extend the state of emergency as we assess whether to call a special session. The Governor has had the courage to make unpopular decisions in order to keep Kentuckians safe – the court has removed much of his ability to do so moving forward. If called in to a special session, we hope the General Assembly would do the right thing."

A statement from the Kentucky Education Association:

“It is unfortunate that the Kentucky Supreme Court had no choice but to uphold hyper-partisan actions of the 2021 General Assembly. Today, the coronavirus delta variant is raging across the Commonwealth, active COVID cases are at record levels, available ICU beds have reached near capacity, and in-person learning has been canceled in some school districts. Politicizing public health policy is obviously dangerous. Emergency action by Gov. Beshear to mandate masking in our schools may have very well have averted a far worse health disaster for our students and their families.”

The Republican Party of Kentucky released the following statement on today’s ruling from the Kentucky Supreme Court:

“This ruling is a victory for the separation of powers and the rule of law as enshrined in our Constitution. I am proud of our Republican lawmakers and constitutional officers for fighting against Gov. Beshear’s executive overreach every step of the way, and we are happy to see these efforts yield results for the people of Kentucky.

The following is a statement from Colmon Elridge, Chair of the Kentucky Democratic Party:

“Over the course of the last 18 months, Governor Beshear has worked with the medical community and public health specialists to protect Kentuckians. Govenor Beshear’s smart, decisive, and moral actions have saved countless lives across the commonwealth while Republicans in Frankfort have refused to take any responsibility for making hard decisions to keep people safe.

As Kentuckians, we continue to believe the Republicans are wrong and that these steps have saved lives. Hopefully, Daniel Cameron and the GOP supermajority will finally do the right thing and stop playing politics with this virus and work with the governor to keep Kentucky safe.”


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The ruling now allows laws that limit Beshear's emergency powers to go into effect after an injection blocking the laws was granted in March

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Chellim, you left out the fact that all Doctors know it is far more effective to treat and cure a Corona variant via readily available medicines than to fumble with vaccines with a horrible 10-year clinical track record.
 
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Ha, that sums up my thought process about that particular bit of news perfectly. Big Grin

In other "news", this headline popped up when I opened my browser this morning: "In Florida, DeSantis cut jobless aid just as virus began terrifying new wave". Washington Post. Roll Eyes
 
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https://www.whas11.com/article...b6-acd2-0a2f8f43ec32

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"The court’s order will dissolve Kentucky’s entire state of emergency for the COVID-19 pandemic. It either eliminates or puts at risk large amounts of funding, steps we have taken to increase our health care capacity, expanded meals for children and families, measures to fight COVID-19 in long-term care facilities, worker’s compensation for front-line workers who contract COVID-19 as well as the ability to fight price gouging. It will further prevent the governor from taking additional steps such as a general mask mandate. The administration will work to determine whether the General Assembly would extend the state of emergency as we assess whether to call a special session. The Governor has had the courage to make unpopular decisions in order to keep Kentuckians safe – the court has removed much of his ability to do so moving forward. If called in to a special session, we hope the General Assembly would do the right thing."

The lady Leftists doth protest too much, methinks...

This is where the rubber meets the road. They protest and yet, their objections are EXACTLY why the AG filed with the court, and KY Supreme Court ruled in favor of the General Assembly, and the Rule of Law!

Laws are Laws, and Executive Orders/Decrees by the 'Frankfort Diktator' (or any power hungry tyrant) are NOT....Period!

As was stated by the Republican Party of KY, "This ruling is a victory for the separation of powers and the rule of law as enshrined in our Constitution." Cool


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Healthcare Workers Pack Hearing to Support Bill to Ban Vaccine Mandates in Michigan

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...v0E4T%2F8%2BzQ%3D%3D

LANSING, Mich.—A public hearing on a proposed new law to ban employers from requiring workers to be vaccinated against the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus drew hundreds of people, many dressed in hospital scrubs, to the state capital on Thursday morning.

The overwhelmingly supportive crowd jammed into a hearing on the bill conducted by the House Committee on Workforce, Trades, and Talent, filling the spacious committee room and four overflow rooms to capacity.

The Informed Consent in the Workplace Act (pdf), offered by Rep. Sue Allor (R-Wolverine) and 16 other sponsors, prohibits employers from threatening, firing, discriminating, retaliating against, or refusing to hire workers that decline to receive vaccinations for the CCP virus, tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis.

The proposed legislation would prohibit employers from forcing employees who have refused the vaccines to wear a mask as a consequence of their decision, and from being required to wear or display a mark that distinguishes the individual from vaccinated coworkers.

The bill also allows aggrieved employees to sue employers for injunctive relief and for triple any financial losses they incur, plus costs and attorney fees.

Committee Chairperson Beth Griffin (R-Mattawan) opened the hearing by stating, “Thousands of employees across the state are protesting employers forcing them to put something into their bodies that they don’t want.”

The bill imposes a strict regulation on Michigan businesses, a concept that Republicans have traditionally resisted. On the other hand, normally pro-regulation Democrats, such as committee minority co-chair Terry Sabo, are opposed to the bill, contending it will be an obstacle to putting the pandemic behind us and will hinder economic recovery.

“I’m disappointed to see my colleagues push a bill that is so clearly anti-business,” said Sabo. “The business community has joined together and made their voices loud and clear in opposition to this legislation, and I stand with them.”

Allor observed that Republicans generally believe that government is too intrusive in business, but said her bill takes the vaccine mandate issue beyond the rights of businesses to the “civil liberties and basic rights and freedoms of the people as individuals.”

Allor warned the committee of the dangers of opening the door for businesses to mandate what chemical agents their workers must have in their own bodies. She warned that someday businesses may determine that things like maternity leave are not economically efficient and instead decide to mandate birth control for all female employees.

Most of Michigan’s largest hospital and healthcare systems, employing hundreds of thousands of workers, have announced that they would begin enforcing a vaccination requirement for staff as a condition of employment. Henry Ford Healthcare Systems set a Sept. 10 deadline. Ascension Healthcare Systems set a deadline of Nov. 12, while William Beaumont Health Systems and Spectrum Health Systems will require staff to be vaccinated after one of the three vaccines receives full FDA approval.

Multiple surveys have shown that there is considerable hesitation and resistance among healthcare workers to receiving the shot, with three out of 10 not yet vaccinated. According to Becker’s Hospital Review, one in six healthcare professionals have said they would rather quit than get the shot.

The numbers show that a minority of healthcare workers oppose employer-mandated vaccinations. Underscoring this point is Bob Riney, president of healthcare operations at Henry Ford Healthcare Systems.

“We have received widespread support from our patients, team members and the community for our decision to require the COVID-19 vaccine for team members,” he said in a recent statement. “We acknowledge that uncertainty remains for some, and respect the rights of those members of our Henry Ford family … We are deeply committed to working alongside every team member who has concerns or questions.”

Prior to the start of the Lansing hearing, one healthcare worker, who would not give her name for fear of reprisal from her employer, told the Epoch Times, “Here’s how it works in my hospital. Management first ‘suggests’ that we get vaccinated. After two ‘suggestions,’ we get a warning. After three ‘suggestions,’ we get suspended and escorted out of the building.”

When asked if she felt coerced by her employer to take the vaccine, one medical assistant from the Michigan State University Medical Center answered, “When your boss tells you to get vaccinated or get fired, I’d call that coercion. I am proud of the MSU students that are standing up and fighting for their rights in opposing mandatory vaccinations. There’s a petition with 20,000 signatures. I know of faculty that support the cause but won’t speak out for fear of losing their jobs.”

In a tearful testimony before the committee, Katie Kirn, who would not name the Michigan hospital system for which she works as a nurse, shared that in June she received an email from her employer threatening her termination for noncompliance with the system’s vaccine mandate. She recounted how, after asking questions about the virus at a “listening session,” she was told by management that her participation had been noticed and that she appeared “distressed.” She was then given a week off “to think.”

Kirn said, “When I returned to work … I was warned that as a leader, I must get on board with what the system is doing. I was told not to answer any further questions regarding COVID. I was offered help finding another job and told that if I disagree with this mandate … I should resign.”

Kirn continued, “Managers have been sent a list of employees on their unit who have not been vaccinated. They are being pressured, coerced, and intimidated into receiving the vaccine. They are being told they won’t be able to find other jobs in healthcare, and those in school are being told they must comply in order to receive further education.”

“We are not being presented with a choice from these hospitals. We are being presented with an ultimatum…We went from heroes to zeroes. From essential to completely expendable,” said Kirn.

In addition to Michigan State, a number of Michigan universities, including the University of Michigan, Grand Valley State, and Wayne State have vaccine mandates already in place for staff and students.

Employees of the State of Michigan are required to wear a mask in the workplace, but have not yet been mandated to receive the vaccine.

The Michigan Small Business Association recently reported that, outside of the healthcare industry, almost no private businesses have thus far imposed vaccination mandates on their employees.

Brad Williams, spokesperson for the Detroit Chamber of Commerce, opposed the bill as “another government overreach,” and said that “vaccinations are necessary to end the pandemic.”

Williams went on to tell the committee that the state’s labor shortage and vaccine resistance are intertwined.

“The Michigan workforce has shrunk by 4.2 percent since the pandemic, largely because of health and safety issues at the workplace,” he said.

Williams’s message to vaccine mandate opponents in danger of losing their jobs: “Find new employment where you are more comfortable.”

Several doctors presented data to the committee questioning the safety and effectiveness of the three CCP virus vaccines and mask-wearing. According to the CDC, COVID-19 vaccines are “safe, effective, and free!”

The CCP virus, commonly known as the novel coronavirus, is the pathogen which causes COVID-19.

Dr. James Culver made the case that the natural immunity developed by people previously infected with the CCP virus was better than the immunity provided by the vaccine. Culver based his comments on a study by Cleveland Clinic conducted in December of 2020 and the five months that followed. That study was completed before the emergence of the Delta variant. Cleveland Clinic released the study’s results on June 9.

Dr. Christina Parks told the committee that 70 percent of black people residing in the city of Detroit have not been vaccinated because they do not trust the government. Parks pointed out that workplace vaccine mandates would have the effect of excluding them from the workforce and from participating in much of the economy of the city.

Via Zoom, the committee heard from constitutional law professor, former federal judge, and current president of the Great Lakes Justice Center, William Wagner, who stated, “Mandating vaccines could violate the Constitution. Entities will face lawsuits they are likely to lose.”


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Pelosi speaking to a bunch of Napa Valley elites

notice who wears masks and who doesn't

https://twitter.com/i/status/1429469022542864387



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notice who wears masks
The people who are eating are not wearing masks.



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Australia update: Victoria

Sharing is caring, right?

It's Monday here, and a pleasant 2 weeks to be spent in isolation, after being in close contact with someone who has tested positive for the WuFlu, at a nearby and popular supermarket. Woolworths is similar to a Kroger. Food and produce.

In Victoria, as in other states, there is a health directive under State of Emergency services order, to 'check-in' using a QR code at all venues. That's how they track.

The QR code records time of entry, name and cell phone number for that venue. No other personally identifiable information is obtained, recorded or stored.

Late last night, from VicHealth, came this text message:

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This is a message from the Victorian Department of Health.

You have been identified as a close contact of a person with confirmed coronavirus (COVID-19) and may have been exposed on 16 August 2021 at Woolworths Millers Junction Altona North.

WHAT YOU SHOULD DO:

You must isolate immediately and seek testing as soon as possible.
If you are tested for COVID-19 and receive a negative result, you must continue your isolation until the end of the 14-day period. Symptoms may develop anytime between zero to 14 days after the exposure. The Department of Health will be in contact with you shortly to discuss this further and complete an interview.

If you attended the venue with anyone else and they have not received this message, they must also isolate immediately and contact the Department of Health on 1300 651 160.

If you would like more information, please call 1300 651 160 and dial 0 for an interpreter.
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Pleased as punch, that I am. Add in to this mix, lockdown and a nightly curfew until end of the month.

"Show me papers" springs to mind ...

There is also some discussion by Those Who Know Better, to change the daily WuFlu reporting stats from positive cases (result from testing) to hospitalization stats.

This as a result as positive cases in New South Wales (NSW) continue to spiral up and beyond. 850 in last 24 hours I think? And 71 in the last 24 hours here in Victoria. Delta variant.

Hospital cases are beginning to rise.

Aus has 6 states and 2 territories.
Only one state - NSW - has gone for the no lockdown and herd immunity approach. Hasn't worked. Now they have some form of lockdown, and a push for vaccinations.

And (poor) vaccination rollout is another subject matter for another time ...
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One of my best friends in his mid 30’s got the damn virus. He was in absolutely fantastic shape and worked out 3-4 times a week. This virus kicked the absolute shit out of him. It’s been 2 weeks almost three weeks since he first got it and he recently told me he still can’t catch his breath and cannot play drums for very long without having to stop and catch his breath. His wife has asthma and has been doing even worse. Frown

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Reports that full FDA approval of the Pfizer vaccine may come tomorrow. Now I will see if my employer that has strongly recommended vaccines but said it is an individual choice will start making mandates. I already got the Pfizer in March/April because I know it will be necessary for international travel and I need to be ready to go whenever politics allows.
 
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Surgeon General: COVID-19 Booster Shot Likely Needed for J&J Vaccine Recipients

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...hpcsC%2F8PIdTQ%3D%3D

U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy said on Aug. 22 that people who have received the Johnson & Johnson single-dose vaccine will likely need COVID-19 booster shots, after other federal health officials and he said days ago that those who got the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines would be recommended to get a third shot starting in September.

“We believe that J&J recipients will likely need a booster, but we are waiting on some data from the company about a second dose of J&J, so the FDA [Food and Drug Administration] can fully evaluate the safety and efficacy of that dose,” Murthy said in a CNN interview.

More data and studies are required, he said, noting when they’re completed, “we can present that to the FDA, and they can also review it for safety.”

“And so as soon as those studies are done, we’ll have more to recommend to J&J recipients about the timing of a booster and which shot they should get,” Murthy said.

When asked about whether it’s safe to administer a booster shot during a separate ABC News interview on Aug. 22, Murthy said that the J&J booster shot is contingent “on the FDA and the CDC [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] Advisory Committee doing their full and independent evaluation.”

Neither agency has approved booster shots for the other vaccines, although the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) earlier this month said that third Pfizer and Moderna shots can be given to people with compromised immune systems.

About a week ago, Murthy was joined by CDC chief Dr. Rochelle Walensky, National Institutes of Health Director Dr. Francis Collins, and Acting Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Janet Woodcock in saying that federal health agencies will push for booster doses on Sept. 20. Walenksy, during a press conference, cited three studies published by the CDC that show mRNA vaccines’ effectiveness in preventing COVID-19 dropped in July.

Some experts, including one of the developers of the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, said that trying to work toward “herd immunity” isn’t possible with the virus, as it will constantly mutate and breach vaccine protection.

“I think [herd immunity] is a pretty distant prospect and we need to get used to the concept that this will become what we call an endemic disease rather than a pandemic disease,” Andrew Pollard, the director of the Oxford Vaccine Group, said on Aug. 10. “A disease that is with us all the time—probably transmits seasonally a bit like influenza where we see winter outbreaks.”


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