People have lost their damn minds.

I'm sorry, but if you support this you are insane.


https://abc7chicago.com/109328...m&utm_source=twitter

Throughout this thing I have been fine with people who want to wear a mask thinking it provides them protection or if it makes them feel virtuous protecting their neighbors - I don't care, doesn't affect me. I've been against mandates, but if you want to wear a mask for your own reasons - knock yourself out.

If you support forcing toddlers in daycare to wear a mask you are some sort of psychopath. Sorry if anyone doesn't like that or feels attacked, but the truth is the truth.

^^^ To piggy back off that...



Seriously, who are these dim-witted, ghoulish parents? I will raise holy hell if they try to make my daughters wear masks again.

It's the same strategy that the Left has been using since Lenin - get 'em while they're young. And it's been gaining momentum here since the 1960's.

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Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
I have a friend who had it last year before being vaccinated and then again early this year after being vaccinated. Sick both times, not just tested positive. Second time not as bad.

I've had the flu twice in a year too.

Well, good for you!

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A Pandemic of The Vaccinated – Does The Vaccine Create a Pathway For A More Dangerous Variant?

Ooooooooh, unforseen circumstances. There's a first.

Maybe we should introduce an invasive species to deal with the situation.

Another lie. I kept hearing in the media this week that 70% of Americans were vaccinated and Biden had reached his goal. I don't believe anything they say. Now only 1 jab counts. You can't make this stuff up.


Half of US population is fully vaccinated against COVID-19, CDC says

https://nypost.com/2021/08/06/...gainst-covid-19-cdc/

Half of all Americans have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday.

Data on the agency’s website showed that 165.9 million Americans had either received both shots of vaccines from Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech, or taken the single-shot vaccine from Johnson & Johnson.

Currently, only Americans aged 12 and older are eligible for a vaccine, and the CDC says 58.5 percent of Americans in that age group (165.8 million people) are fully vaccinated.

Earlier this week, the White House announced that 70 percent of Americans 18 and older had received at least one vaccine dose, achieving a goal that President Biden initially hoped to reach by July 4. As of Friday, 60.9 percent of US adults (157.3 million people) were fully vaccinated, according to the CDC, while 80.3 percent of Americans 65 and older (43.9 million people) were fully vaccinated.

The 50 percent milestone has been reached 10 days after the CDC recommended the return of indoor mask mandates, regardless of vaccination status, in jurisdictions with at least 50 confirmed COVID cases per 100,000 people. As of Friday night, more than 86 percent of all US counties were experiencing either “substantial” or “high” transmission of COVID-19 above the threshold at which the CDC recommended mandates be instituted.

Critics have said the CDC’s guidance, recommended by its director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky, has undercut necessary messaging that vaccines are effective against COVID-19, even against the highly contagious Delta variant. They’ve taken particular issue with Walensky’s contention that a study of a COVID-19 outbreak in Provincetown, Mass., over the July 4 weekend proves that vaccinated people can transmit the Delta variant more easily than other strains of COVID-19.

Walensky doubled down on her claims Friday, telling CNN: “Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta. With regard to severe illness and death, they prevent it. But what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission. So if you’re going home to somebody who has not been vaccinated, to somebody who can’t get vaccinated, somebody who might be immunosuppressed or a little bit frail, somebody who has comorbidities that put them at high risk, I would suggest you wear a mask in public indoor settings.”

The White House, meanwhile, has touted improving vaccination rates in states where uptake had previously flatlined.

“The eight states with the highest current case rates have seen an average increase of 171 percent in the number of people newly vaccinated each day over the past three weeks,” White House COVID-19 Response Coordinator Jeff Zients said in a virtual briefing Monday. “Louisiana has seen a 302 percent increase in the average number of newly vaccinated per day. Mississippi, 250 percent. Alabama, 215 percent, and Arkansas, 206 percent. This increase in vaccination rates in states that have been lagging is a positive trend.”

Health officials hope to give the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine full approval by Labor Day, and clinical trials are underway to determine the feasibility of a COVID vaccine for children under 12.

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Am I the only one one that knows multiple people that have “tested positive” multiple times?

We have a SIGforum member who was hit hard by The Virus in December 2020, then hit again, a year later.

*Tap, tap*
I think my watch battery died.*Tap, tap*

Glad I wasn’t the only one.

So a year. Big deal.

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People have lost their damn minds.

I'm sorry, but if you support this you are insane.

Absolutely sickening

These idiots I have no idea just how much they are screwing up these kids psychologically and emotionally and even physically. Like I read earlier today, parents were always supposed to be there to assure our children that they were safe and there were no monsters under the bed. Now we are telling these kids there’s an invisible airborne bogeyman they must hide from behind a mask.

Many of these children will never give these masks up now even when they’ve gone away in society.

Goddam idiot parents

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Another lie. I kept hearing in the media this week that 70% of Americans were vaccinated and Biden had reached his goal. I don't believe anything they say. Now only 1 jab counts. You can't make this stuff up.

... and the vaccine works, but it doesn't really work, so wear a mask.

On the subject of false positives, they happen all the time in medicine. One great example of this is the PSA test, that has a 75% false positive test rate (but only a 1-2% false negative rate).

The Covid PCR test being run at the excessively high number of cycles last year resulted in an 80-90% false positive rate, per the scientists who actually use it for research, and the guy who invented it. After Slow Joe got sworn in, they ratcheted the number of cycles back down to the normal range, resulting in lower numbers of positive tests, and good press for the current regime.

Over-cycling the PCR test would indeed be the one case where false positives could be significantly high. However, I find it hard to believe that the testing protocols were dialed in with high Ct values on any kind of widespread basis. There was tremendous pressure to get fast and reliable testing out when the Covid crisis was first developing. The extra cycling would have added considerable time (days even?) to getting results that few people would justify.

The PSA test is for prostate cancer. Yes, it has a high false positive rate, but it's not a genetic screening test like for Covid. (The rapid LFT test detects proteins rather than genetic material, but also has a low false positive rate.)

Considering how our Gov Wolf is such a pathetic, spiteful, little bitch; I was really amazed that he & the PA Dept of "Education" both made statements yesterday that there are no plans for a mandate for masks in schools.

A local news station has posted a list of school opening dates, and their mask guidelines for almost all the school districts in the area, and there's only one school mandating masks. The rest are stating that masks are optional.

I'm sure the teachers unions will be raising hell about the "masks optional" rules.

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Over-cycling the PCR test would indeed be the one case where false positives could be significantly high. However, I find it hard to believe that the testing protocols were dialed in with high Ct values on any kind of widespread basis.

They did it in Michigan!

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Considering how our Gov Wolf is such a pathetic, spiteful, little bitch; I was really amazed that he & the PA Dept of "Education" both made statements yesterday that there are no plans for a mandate for masks in schools.

A local news station has posted a list of school opening dates, and their mask guidelines for almost all the school districts in the area, and there's only one school mandating masks. The rest are stating that masks are optional.

I'm sure the teachers unions will be raising hell about the "masks optional" rules.

It’s all about next years Governor’s election.

Can’t piss off the electorate too close to an election and have the Republican win, can we? Nope.

EVERYTHING. EVERY THING. These Democrat assholes do is highly calculated.

Everyone here knows this already. Take it easy

Danged COVIDthread is mutating into multiple thread variants.

The democrats have to keep this going for another year so they can justify another round of mail in ballots and all the other stuff they did in 2020. Pretty obvious that's the plan. String it out as long as they can.

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Danged COVIDthread is mutating into multiple thread variants.

Have we hit the Epsilon variant yet???

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Originally posted by kkina:
Over-cycling the PCR test would indeed be the one case where false positives could be significantly high. However, I find it hard to believe that the testing protocols were dialed in with high Ct values on any kind of widespread basis.

They did it in Michigan!

I know, but I did say "widespread".

Pathologist Dr Ryan Cole Delivers Concerning Message About COVID Vaccine and Long Term Impacts

Before getting to the sketchy part; first, let’s talk...

There has been a great deal of discussion about the vitriolic, almost rabid disposition of people who are pushing the vaccination.

This should not be a surprise, although it might be disconcerting to find formerly reasonable people in your network, perhaps even in your family, now become seemingly unhinged if the subject arises.

It is demonstrably true, there has been a cleaving of our American population as the debate about the COVID vaccination rages on. However, it is wise to consider the underlying psychology of a person who has been vaccinated, before engaging in an argument. You may end up being entirely correct in your position; however, an intense or combative argument? At what cost?

A vaccinated person is, as a consequence of their decision, in an irreversible frame of mind. Once the vaccination has been injected into a persons body, there is no turning back; the Rubicon has been crossed, the event horizon closes, there is no retreat. Any conversation or debate about vaccine efficacy or long-term consequences with a person who has accepted the vaccine must be weighed accordingly.

Genuine empathetic listening is needed on both sides.

The no-retreat baseline can, often does, form the origin of anger and vitriol, particularly in unstable leftists -who are, by nature of their ideology- professional blame-casters and prone to emotional responses as a matter of disposition. Therefore, it is better to avoid the topic entirely (if possible) and retain your peace of mind.

♦ Revelations over the past few years have led to the complete collapse of credibility for many institutions. The healthcare field is the latest example of a politically controlled ideological industry that can no longer be trusted to make decisions based on a detachment from their political interests.

The healthcare industry has joined the education system, the justice system (DOJ), law enforcement (FBI), the intelligence system, arts and entertainment, as well as many organizations now controlled through the prism of politics. Political ideology, as the determining factor of institutional behavior, has infected almost every facet of modern life; healthcare is no exception.

Given the nature of the metastatic corruption, very visible in multiple institutions, it is completely understandable that more people would not trust the National Institute of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) or any other regulatory body or agency now vested in the COVID vaccine.

Factually, as previously stated, the FDA final approval of the vaccines is a moot point. The FDA, just like a vaccinated person, is in a no retreat position. There is no way the U.S. FDA cannot approve the vaccines that have been sold, forced and pushed upon the entire global population. Can you even begin to imagine the ramifications of the FDA saying the vaccine was (a) unsafe; or (b) ineffective? Think about it. FDA approval is a foregone conclusion, regardless of safety or efficacy.

There is every reason not to trust the healthcare industry on the issue of vaccination(s). Indeed, their obtuse behavior, logical disconnect, false assertions and gross hypocrisy is more than enough to create doubt about the vaccine. Then overlay the lack of consequence for all known institutional corruption, and there’s even more reason to doubt them.

♦ Two key issues stick in my mind about the COVID vaccines that make me pretty firm in opposition:

(1) The fact that vaccine makers would abandon the clinical trial control group is a big red flag. The fact that vaccine makers could not abandon the clinical trial control group without authorization from the FDA, CDC and NIH is an even bigger red flag. {Go Deep}

The clinical trial was assembled to produce only one result. THAT is not science. THAT is sketchy and points to an ulterior motive. That is not science, that’s political science.

(2) The fact that data shows the vaccine provides no benefit is another big red flag. Specifically, the equal hospitalization rate of vaxxed and non-vaxxed patients. Almost every study I can find with data on COVID hospitalized cases that includes the vaccination status (not many), shows an equal percentage of vaccinated/hospitalized people to the vaccinated population in general. {Go Deep}

[ex. If 75% of the regional population is vaccinated, then 75% of the hospitalized COVID patients are vaccinated.] This statistic demonstrates the vaccine doesn’t stop serious illness.

Put both of those issues together, and overlay the demonstrably collapsed institutional credibility, and I am not comfortable with this specific vaccine.

I am not anti-VAX, I am not comfortable with THIS specific vaccination. And, again, once administered there is no retreat.

We should all cherish, respect and value the differences of opinion of this very personal issue. Healthcare is a personal and private matter. Other people have different factors, risk-factors and hundreds of considerations that guide or have guided their decision. We should all respect that; and we do not want to see ‘vaccination status‘ become a fragmentation problem for our CTH community. We are all in the same foxhole.

♦ALL OF THAT said, Dr. Ryan Cole is a Mayo-trained physician who has seen over 350,000 patients in his career. He also serves as the CEO of Cole Diagnostics, which has processed over 100,000 Coronavirus tests. Dr. Cole gave an alarming presentation that merits consideration:

WATCH VIDEO HERE
https://rumble.com/vkopys-a-pa...nd-other-organs.html

In response to criticism for his position, Dr. Cole wrote:

“I am concerned about the lack of long term safety data, because this vaccine is simply too new. We have never tried an mRNA vaccine in humans before. I am concerned about the implications of injection of foreign, synthetic mRNA and the antibody reaction which cannot be reversed. It concerns me that large numbers of individuals are being essentially enrolled in a long term phase III clinical trial for the vaccine without being fully informed of this, with no ability for recompense if injured or in case of death. I am concerned by the number of adverse event and deaths that have been reported in correlation with this vaccine administration.”

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