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A Pandemic of The Vaccinated – Does The Vaccine Create a Pathway For A More Dangerous Variant?

Ooooooooh, unforseen circumstances. There's a first.

Shocked I say....


And amazingly enough, yesterday the CV19 numbers in my county tanked. Near an all time low (15 total new cases for the day), definitely a downward trend after a slight elevation (avg 2-5 cases/day to 8-12 cases/day) for a week.

The news first thing this morning reported us as one of the worst counties in the state. The numbers today, spiked higher than I've ever seen in a single day (321) when the website was updated in the late afternoon.

Other than the last time when the next day they were corrected.

https://www.waynecounty.com/covid19dashboard/

BTW, the woman attached to Jennifer Aniston's nipples says she's cut people out of her life because they won't take the shot.

Listening to local radio on the drive up to the lake the other day. Sports talk from Mpls. was on. They are all up in arms because many of the players for the Vikings won’t take the jab. The coach is beside himself stopping just short of calling people who are hesitant stupid. He said something along the lines of “some of the stuff these guys are reading is just, ooof, really out there. Of course he doesn’t want players sitting out on covid protocol because he might lose a football game because of it. And all the radio talking heads wholeheartedly agree. One said the problem started when we had a commander in chief who for four years spent the entire time deriding all government agencies calling them dishonest and the media fake news and now many people don’t trust the government or official agencies. After saying that he says “well yeah some things in government happened that probably shouldn’t have but, but”.. Ya think?!?! For chrissakes that’s a understatement!

The next thing said was along the lines of and all these people who have all these talking points and excuses for not getting the vaccine like it’s not FDA approved, it hasn’t been properly tested, people have had side effects and a few people have died. And oh my favorite excuse is all the people coming across the border aren’t vaccinated! These are educated adult men talking like this. I couldn’t help but get a laugh out of it. This is what happens when people’s entire identity relies on the success or failure of a local sports team.

The shallow end of the pool is over these guys heads.

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BTW, the woman attached to Jennifer Aniston's nipples says she's cut people out of her life because they won't take the shot.

Well that’s one more now that I don’t have a realistic shot at.

But the Southern Border will remain wide open.



White House Considering Requiring Foreign Visitors to Show COVID-19 Vaccination Proof:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...fficial_3935548.html

The White House confirmed Thursday it is considering requiring foreign visitors to show proof of COVID-19 vaccination as a condition for international travel.

Jeff Zients, the White House COVID-19 response coordinator, told reporters on Thursday that several federal agencies are examining the possibility of issuing such a mandate.

“We will be ready when it is the right time to consider reopening,” Zients said at a White House COVID-19 briefing. He appeared to confirm anonymously sourced reports that administration officials will have to present proof they’re vaccinated against the virus.

There is still no timetable on when the United States will resume international travel to certain countries, as a number of federal officials have cited concerns about the Delta variant.

In early 2020, the United States imposed its first restrictions on travel from China—where the virus originated—before imposing restrictions on Europe and other nations.

Canada recently announced it would allow “nonessential” travel from the United States if travelers can provide proof of vaccination. The United States, however, did not reciprocate Canada’s policy and has kept its border with its northern neighbor closed due to COVID-19.

And in contrast, along the U.S.–Mexico border, which is still seeing record numbers of illegal immigrants crossing, proof of COVID-19 vaccination isn’t required before aliens are released into the United States. Reports last month said that during the final week of July, about 7,000 people who crossed illegally were released in McAllen, Texas.

Reports citing anonymous sources also said the Biden administration is creating a plan to provide vaccines to illegal immigration.

It was not immediately clear whether a plan would require visitors arriving from Mexico and Canada to be vaccinated before crossing land borders.

Starting late last month, a number of large corporations including Google, Facebook, Tyson Foods, and many others started mandating that their employees get vaccinated by a certain date or potentially face termination. The federal government, too, will soon require employees to get vaccinated or wear a mask and socially distance.

This week, New York City became the first to announce a policy implementing a COVID-19 vaccine pass that requires customers to show proof of vaccination before they enter restaurants, gyms, and theaters. The Los Angeles City Council is working on passing a similar mandate.

Vaccine passports and similar systems have been criticized by civil liberties groups, conservatives, and even some Democrats as creating a segregated society of vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

During a news conference earlier this week, Zients announced that it is “time to impose some requirements on COVID-19 vaccines.”

President Joe Biden, he said, “called on states and local governments to use funding they have received, including from the American Rescue Plan, to give $100 to anyone who gets fully vaccinated,” adding that “if financial incentives like these help us get more shots in arms, we should use them.”

But he went a step further, saying that mandates must be imposed.

“But in addition to incentives, it’s time to impose some requirements based on the realities of different risks unvaccinated individuals pose versus those who have been vaccinated,” Zients proclaimed.

COVID-19 is the illness caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.

Get it or be terminated. Within 5 weeks of the FDA rubber stamp, which is expected coming up in September.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2...-mandate-us-workers/

United Airlines Announces Vaccine Mandate For U.S. Workers


CHICAGO (CBS/AP) — United Airlines is requiring its U.S. employees to get vaccinated against COVID-19, becoming the first major airline to institute a vaccine mandate for its staff.

The Chicago-based airline told its U.S. employees in a letter that they must provide proof they have been fully vaccinated five weeks after the FDA fully approves a vaccine, or five weeks after Sept. 20, whichever comes first.

To date, the FDA has granted only emergency-use approval of the Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines, but according to published reports, the FDA is expected to give full approval to the Pfizer vaccine by early September.

Company leaders called the vaccination requirement a matter of safety and cited “incredibly compelling” evidence of the effectiveness of the vaccines.

“We know some of you will disagree with this decision to require the vaccine for all United employees,” CEO Scott Kirby and President Brett Hart told employees Friday. But, they added, “the facts are crystal clear: everyone is safer when everyone is vaccinated.”

United, which has 67,000 employees in the United States, is the first major U.S. airline to announce it will require vaccination for workers. The airline has been requiring vaccination of new hires since mid-June. Unvaccinated workers are required to wear face masks at company offices.

The airline estimates that up to 90% of its pilots and close to 80% of its flight attendants are already vaccinated. They get incentives to do so.

Under the new vaccine requirement, each employee will have to send an image of their vaccine card to the company. Those who don’t will be terminated, with exemptions granted only for religious or health reasons, officials said.

Employees who are already vaccinated or do so by Sept. 20 will get an extra day of pay, according to the memo from Kirby and Hart.

Like United, Delta Air Lines has operated vaccination center for employees and recently began requiring the shots for new hires. Delta CEO Ed Bastian said this week that 73% of the airline’s workforce is vaccinated. Executives at other airlines have similarly encouraged their workers to get vaccinated, even offering bonuses and paid time off to get the shots, but haven’t made them mandatory.

Airlines and other companies in the travel business have been hit particularly hard by the pandemic, which led to sharp travel restrictions. The United States requires people entering the country, including U.S. citizens, to show proof of a negative COVID-19 test, and the Biden administration plans to require non-U.S. citizens to be vaccinated before entering the country.

A United executive said the airline has no plans to require that passengers be vaccinated, calling that a government decision. The CEOs of Delta and American have similarly ruled out a mandate for passengers.

Microsoft, Google and Facebook have said they will require proof of vaccination for employees and visitors to their U.S. offices starting this fall.

This week, Tyson Foods announced it will require all U.S. employees to get vaccinated by November — notable because unlike the tech companies, Tyson relies on many lower-paid workers who cannot do their jobs remotely. The president of the United Food and Commercial Workers criticized Tyson for imposing the requirement while the vaccines still have only emergency FDA approval.

A few governments are getting involved. California and New York City will require employees to be vaccinated or face weekly testing, and the California mandate extends to workers in public and private hospitals and nursing homes.

The new rules come as the U.S. struggles with a surge in infections driven by the highly contagious delta variant of COVID-19. The 7-day average of new reported coronavirus cases has jumped to more than 90,000 a day from around 12,000 a month ago, although hospitalizations and deaths have risen more slowly.

Democrats Want to Hate Their Way Out of the Pandemic

When identity politics is your answer to everything.
Fri Aug 6, 2021 Daniel Greenfield

Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical Left and Islamic terrorism.

"As Virus Cases Rise, Another Contagion Spreads Among the Vaccinated: Anger," the New York Times hisses. "Vaccinated people are ready for normalcy — and angry at the unvaccinated," the Washington Post jeers.

"It's O.K. to be mad at people who refuse to get vaccinated," America Magazine reassures.

Hating people is a hell of a prescription for a medical crisis, but to the Left all problems are political problems. And they deal with political problems by hating twice as hard as ever.

Our media, like that of most totalitarian countries, exists to tell regime loyalists whom to be angry at today while distracting them from the regime’s latest disaster. The American Left only knows and understands identity politics. Its view of the world is rooted in the same Marxist theories that made the Soviet Union and every Communist government so dysfunctional, but the need to juggle the intersectional dynamics of multiculturalism has made it especially insane.

Anyone who wants to understand America’s racial divisions need only look at the perverse skill with which leftists divided the country between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated in less than a year. In a short amount of time people had been taught to hate each other and to form deep divides over an issue that hadn’t even been on their minds last summer.

If the Left can do that with a shot, is it any wonder they were able to do it with skin color?

America’s Left has become an identity politics generator, literally creating new identities overnight (the average number of gender identities went from 48 in 2019, to 56 in 2020, to 64 today), to compete in a packed victimhood Olympics whose only purpose is political power.

The Left has succeeded so well that all of the country’s political discourse is about rival claims of victimhood and dueling accusations of oppression. The identity politics generator works so well that in under a year a new identity can be up and running, and ready to register victims and demand political power to repress the other side of their binary identities. But all this does is give the Left an exciting new way to seize power and posture as the victims this week.

Faced with a pandemic, the Left built a new political identity around masks and vaccines.

That’s what it does with every challenge or crisis. When all you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail and when all you have is identity politics, every problem is identitarian.

And every solution manufactures the same cliched binary identities, victims and oppressors, the enlightened and the reactionaries, and yokes them to the same tired narrative which organizes the latter against the former. The speed with which the Left turned personal medical decisions into an identity shows how the artificial assembly line of its identity politics really works.

Diversity isn’t really very diverse. Multiculturalism is really a single political culture. Identity politics offers the same product with a different coat of paint from the same identity factory.

Identity politics is a revolutionary tool, organizing everything from fifth columns to coalitions to seize political power, but revolutions solve the problem of who is in power, not real problems.

Revolutionary regimes are great at revolutions and bad at everything else.

The Democrats are great at identity politics and bad at pandemics. They excel at taking over institutions, rigging elections, and building narratives in which they’re the victims. They just don’t know how to do anything else. During the revolutionary phase, problems don’t need solving, only exploiting. As Lenin reportedly said, “the worse, the better.” A pandemic, a wildfire, tainted water, or an economic collapse is just another opportunity to churn out narratives declaring that identity politics groups have been hit hardest by the disaster before seizing power in their name.

This works about half the time. The half when Democrats are out of power. Revolutions work best when you’re not already on the throne and trying to blame someone else for your mess.

Power and identity politics can exploit a pandemic, but they can’t meaningfully address it. Much as the Soviets couldn’t address agriculture, and China can’t fix its environmental disasters, the Biden administration and its leftist allies lack the intellectual tools to cope with the problem.

Communist regimes reduced all problems to class warfare, declared that they had eliminated classes, and then blamed problems on domestic saboteurs or denied that they existed at all.

The Democrats blamed the pandemic on the Trump administration. After taking power, they began blaming Trump supporters. Unable to deliver on their promises, they doubled down on identity politics as their way of evading responsibility for the job they claimed they wanted.

But lefties want the job, they don’t want the responsibility.

Fixing problems is dirty and unrewarding work that requires humility, patience, and a willingness to listen. These are not the attributes of a radical movement of egotistical theoreticians who use identity politics to trick people into letting them test out their theories and then when their theories fail in the real world, pivot back to identity politics to blame others for their failures.

The revolutions keep coming, but utopia never arrives.

The Left interacts with reality through a series of abstract constructs filtered through an ideological matrix defined by social relations. This is an unfit model for solving anything except social problems and hasn’t even seen any success there. Reducing the problems of a vast universe, or even a planet, to social injustice is the laughably stupid approach of our elites.

An ideology that blames everything from forest fires to viral outbreaks on social injustice foolishly treats human social relations as the greatest force in the universe. Elites who embrace these ideas are announcing their inability to grapple with problems outside social relations.

Instead of dealing with the problems, they attach them to another identity politics group.

Then they blame some other group for their own inability to grapple with the problem. Democrat politicians and the media have blamed the pandemic on church attendees, Chassidic Jews, spring breakers, surfers, Trump supporters, and an endless list of out-group scapegoats.

Every instance of scapegoating has been undone by their own hypocrisy from the French Laundry to Black Lives Matter riots to the rejection of vaccine mandates by their own health care and teachers’ unions. And Americans are growing tired of their cynical blame game.

Democrats and their media are encouraging Americans to hate each other as they have since the very beginning of the pandemic and the very beginning of their radicalization as a party.

Every problem is met with identity politics and hate.

The Left wants Americans to blame everyone for their problems except the ones in power.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/f...c-daniel-greenfield/

I know that this has largely become the vaccine news article thread, but I was wondering something.

Am I the only one one that knows multiple people that have “tested positive” multiple times? I know one guy that has “tested positive” and been quarantined five times in 18 months????

Anyone else seeing this?

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Yep.

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Am I the only one one that knows multiple people that have “tested positive” multiple times?

We have a SIGforum member who was hit hard by The Virus in December 2020, then hit again, a year later.

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I know that this has largely become the vaccine news article thread,

I think it's the "all things COVID related" thread which is a bit broad for a topic that effects so many areas of our lives...

But your question is a good one.

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Am I the only one one that knows multiple people that have “tested positive” multiple times? I know one guy that has “tested positive” and been quarantined five times in 18 months????

I think PCR testing has been discussed, and yes, it produces many false positives.
Chances are good that your friend has been exposed to the virus and has over come it, and has anti-bodies.

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Revolutionary regimes are great at revolutions and bad at everything else.

So very true. It takes no imagination to just break shit, and that's all leftists know how to do.

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BTW, the woman attached to Jennifer Aniston's nipples says ...

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Get it or be terminated. Within 5 weeks of the FDA rubber stamp, which is expected coming up in September.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2...-mandate-us-workers/

United Airlines Announces Vaccine Mandate For U.S. Workers


CHICAGO (CBS/AP) — United Airlines is requiring its U.S. employees to get vaccinated against COVID-19, becoming the first major airline to institute a vaccine mandate for its staff.
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Yeah. Ask me how I feel about this TOTAL BULLSHIT...

I have guy works for me, likely had it in Feb 2020; vaxxed; now has it again. He and another guy in the office caught it at a bar that I was supposed to meet them at but canceled last minute. Glad I did...

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Am I the only one one that knows multiple people that have “tested positive” multiple times?

We have a SIGforum member who was hit hard by The Virus in December 2020, then hit again, a year later.

Hey guys, Joe says 350 million Americans have been vaccinated and they are doing fine, so get out there and get the vaccine!!


https://twitter.com/CalebJHull.../1423671168020660224

***Minor, inconsequential note: There are only 328 million Americans

Judge Emmet Sullivan



More Illegal Immigrants, Border Agents Testing Positive for COVID-19: DHS Official

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...fficial_3936335.html

The rate at which illegal immigrants are testing positive for COVID-19 has “increased significantly” in recent weeks, a Department of Homeland Security official said this week.

The number of Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers who have tested positive has also risen, despite more and more of them getting vaccinated against the virus that causes COVID-19.

“The rates at which encountered noncitizens are testing positive for COVID-19 have increased significantly in recent weeks. And although the rate of infection among CBP officers had been declining, this rate recently began increasing again, even though the percentage of officers and agents who have been fully vaccinated has grown significantly since January. This has led to increasing numbers of CBP personnel being isolated and hospitalized,” David Shahoulian, assistant secretary for border and immigration policy, said in a court filing.

Shahoulian included the information as he warned a federal judge of “adverse consequences” if the judge decides to block enforcement of Title 42, an order the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has in place that enables border agents to immediately expel illegal aliens who cross into the United States because of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.

Federal officials have been releasing COVID-19 positive immigrants in Texas and other border states, stoking concern that the illegal immigrants are spreading the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes COVID-19.

The city of McAllen said Wednesday that over 7,000 COVID-19 positive aliens have been released into the city by CBP since February, including 1,500 in the previous week. That prompted them to set up an emergency shelter.

DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas told senators during a recent congressional hearing that federal officials do not always notify local jurisdictions before releasing illegal immigrants.

The number of illegal border crossings keeps rising during the Biden administration, coming in at over 200,000 in July. That surge has strained Department of Homeland Security (DHS) operations and filled DHS facilities well beyond their capacity, according to the recent filing.

As of Aug. 1, Border Patrol was at 389 percent of its COVID-19 adjusted capacity along the southwest border.

Border Patrol facilities on that date were holding 17,778 illegal immigrants, including 2,223 immigrant children without parents, known as unaccompanied minors.

The adjusted capacity is 4,706.

Facilities were overfilled in seven of nine sectors at the southwest border, including holding 10,002 illegal immigrants in the Rio Grande Valley sector, the epicenter of the current surge.

That was 783 percent over the COVID-19 adjusted capacity and 287 percent above its normal capacity.

“These capacity figures are extremely worrisome, particularly because of the continued spread of the highly transmissible Delta variant,” Shahoulian said.

U.S. officials have said recently that the variant is more transmissible and early research indicates it is better at breaking through vaccine protection than other variants.

Migrants Housed In Donna, TX As Border Facilities Struggle To Handle Surge
Young children lie inside a pod at the Department of Homeland Security holding facility run by the Customs and Border Patrol

If Title 42 is blocked, DHS officials would not be able to safely hold and process all the illegal immigrants who are entering the United States, according to Shahoulian.


The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued the original Title 42 order in October 2020. A new version of the order issued in August came after officials evaluated “the particular risks of COVID-19 transmission” in DHS facilities, including “the significant increase in CBP encounters that has caused DHS facilities to exceed COVID-constrained capacity and to routinely exceed even non-COVID capacity” and the emergence of the Delta variant, government officials said in another filing in the same case this week.

The August order was extended this week indefinitely.

Shahoulian and other officials are trying to convince U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan not to block temporarily or permanently use of Title 42.

Three families who were expelled under the order sued the government in January, arguing that they were blocked illegally from asserting claims for humanitarian protection like asylum.

The parties said in two joint filings this week that they were negotiating for about six months but that talks broke down.

Sullivan proposed mediation, but that wouldn’t be beneficial, the parties said in a joint filing on Wednesday. Instead, they said the case should move forward.

A reply to the government’s filings by plaintiffs, who are being represented by groups including the American Civil Liberties Union, was expected by the end of the week.

Well, I'd say the coordinated propaganda effort is pretty much a success a this point. My father sent me a text message today telling me how much he and my mother were worried about me being unvaccinated and encouraging me to consider my personal responsibilities and take the poke. Dad's in his 80's and a past Navy man, so it pains me he's succumbed to the BS. I guess I won't be invited to come visit until this ridiculous bug completely disappears the planet or reality and common sense return to this country. As such, I guess I'm relegated to talking to mom and dad on the phone from here on out. Nah, I'm not totally furious with this illegitimate government and the cabal of media liars on TV. Nah, not at all.

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I guess I won't be invited to come visit until this ridiculous bug completely disappears the planet or reality and common sense return to this country.

My prediction is that it is not going to go away. At least not in the next 5 years, or possibly forever. I think there will be the yearly Covid booster to cover the new variants, just like you have the yearly flu shot.

We are going to have to learn to live with it, just as we live with the flu.

I do not see how someone catching C19 2x in a year is unusual. I know people who get the Flu year in and year out like it was prescheduled - and they get the Flu vax every Fall.