I saw some headline on Fox about all/most wuflu deaths now are with unvaccinated people.

My question: why are there any deaths if we can treat people effectively with ivermectin or HCQ(?). How many deaths could have been prevented w/ those treatments? And who is going to held accountable?

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
The packaging on the one I purchased last year says "pharmaceutical grade".

The new packaging now says "for animal use only".

Yeah - because you manufacture the animal version in a completely different factory than the human use version.

Dumb question: is this what someone would consider in response to wuflu? how would one self administer (dosage, method, etc)?

https://www.tractorsupply.com/...n-50-ml?cm_vc=-10005

Also, seems like TSC will not ship to this state, not sure why. They will ship to NV but don't see any of there location in NV having any stock.... Gov controlled now or just everyone out of stock?

Konata,

This is the one. You ingest it and/or utilize topically. (no injection)

https://www.tractorsupply.com/...-on-1-l?cm_vc=-10005

You can look up dosage by bodyweight on the web.

I would just order on-line from them.

The use of Ivermectin was discussed a few months ago here on Sig Forum, and I think it may have been in this thread. Anyway, here's a pretty good website that extensively discusses Ivermectin use and results from around the world. Around 2/3 of the way through there's a list of the trials, doses and frequency. There's plenty of other published medical research on the web that supports the use of Ivermectin against COVID, but it's difficult finding a definitive dose-per-bodyweight and frequency chart. (If you find one, post it. Thanks.)

You'll need a syringe to get the Ivermectin out of the bottle, but syringe markings are in milliliters (mL), not milligrams (mG). Here's a handy converter you can use.

Once you've done the research, you'll notice a big difference between the amount the researchers are giving their patients and what the bottle indicates for dosage. 1 mL/110 lbs for cattle is what's on the bottle, but the researchers are giving far less of a dose with good results. Use of the mG to mL calculator will show this.

I've gotten this info from a fellow rancher who's been taking 1 mL every 30 days since December. He weighs about 250, so he's taking less than the amount for cattle, but far more than what the researchers gave their patients with good results. He squirts it from the syringe into a glass of water then drinks it, and claims he hasn't had any side effects by doing so. Nor has he gotten the 'Rona.

YMMV, I'm not responsible for bad things that can happen to you, and all the other usual disclaimers. Do your own extensive research before ingesting anything made for cattle into your body.

https://justthenews.com/nation...mployment-claims-may

Maryland officials say they suspect over 508,000 new, potentially fraudulent unemployment claims have been filed since May.

The announcement Monday followed the state saying it has verified over 1.3 million fraudulent claims since the beginning of COVID-19 pandemic.


The most common means of filing a fraudulent claim is identity theft


Unemployment money was not considered a high target by most criminals before the pandemic because there was not a lot of funding in it. However, when the states started putting extra money into weekly unemployment checks during the pandemic, criminals took advantage.

Anyone done the math yet to determine the odds of dying from the vaccines vs the 98.4% odds of surviving the virus?

From a learned colleague with a background in Biology & Chemistry:

"VAERS data released yesterday (Friday, 25-JUL 2021) by the CDC showed a total of 387,087 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 6,113 deaths and 31,240 serious injuries between 14-DEC 2020 and 18-JUN 2021."

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but it's difficult finding a definitive dose-per-bodyweight and frequency chart. (If you find one, post it.

source doc here:

https://www.evms.edu/media/evm...OVID-19_Protocol.pdf

I have a lot of respect for Dr Marik

diagram on second page identifies mg/kg and number of doses

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Originally posted by 18DAI:
Anyone done the math yet to determine the odds of dying from the vaccines vs the 98.4% odds of surviving the virus?

98.4%? Maybe over the age of 85. Isn't the overall survival rate more like 99.8%?

I guess it depends on who is doing the math.

Based on what the progressives, St Fauci and their media lapdogs are saying about the latest strain of COVID - its almost a death sentence! Better wear 3 masks!

Is this the latest variant they’ve released? Where did they select as ground zero this time?

Thanks guys. I’ll check the suggestions for source and dosage. I need to find a local source. TSC indicating shipments not allowed to this state. Not sure where to check yet. Wonder if hcq is easier.

Regarding Ivermectin....This is truly how stupid people are today. Got in a bit of a debate with a friend's wife (he loves it when I smack her around verbally as he's too big a wimp to stand up to her). To set the table, she's a flaming Dem and Kamala lover. Anyway, I was suggesting we should be using Ivermectin to help prevent Covid spread instead of these experimental vaccines. She suggested she'd never use some unknown drug someone on the internet suggested. I asked her if she hates her dog (a Lhasa Apso lap dog she adores and dotes on). She was offended and triggered by my suggestion. I recommended she read the back of the heartworm medication package she was giving 'precious' monthly when she got home. My friend later told me she was shocked to find Ivermectin on that packaging as the primary drug. He also mentioned she was of course really pissed at me when she discovered this reality.

Yes, Dorothy, mentally ill morons do walk among us.

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Originally posted by sdy:

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but it's difficult finding a definitive dose-per-bodyweight and frequency chart. (If you find one, post it.

source doc here:

https://www.evms.edu/media/evm...OVID-19_Protocol.pdf

I have a lot of respect for Dr Marik

diagram on second page identifies mg/kg and number of doses

Thanks!! This was interesting. Need to read through more carefully, just skimmed for key points for now.

Based on the available data, the logical conclusion about the mRNA vaccines is this:

Viruses damage cells by invading them and commandeering the cell's reproductive process to create more viruses. Eventually the cell is completely used up, filled with viruses, bursts, and the viruses are released to move on to infect other cells. Essentially, all the damage done by viruses is simply the effects of the viruses using cells as a replication factories. In the case of COVID19, the mechanism by which it attacks and infiltrates a cell is through the spike protein.

So it made "logical" sense to develop mRNA vaccines that carry the RNA coding for only the spike protein. Your body then generates spike proteins, but not complete viruses, and your antibodies and T-cells "learn" to fight off the spike protein and thus the virus. Sounds reasonable, right? Since neither the full coding of the virus, or any "dead" (the proper term is inactivated) viruses are present in the vaccine, there is no risk of the dangers caused by the virus. Again, sounds completely reasonable. What could go wrong?

Except data is leading to the realization that COVID19 is not a respiratory illness, but a vascular illness. The pneumonia like symptoms and damage to the lungs is caused by vascular damage to the capillaries in the alveoli.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, the spike protein is not only the mechanism by which COVID19 binds to and attacks human cells, but part of the illness itself. Let's say that again. The spike protein itself causes vascular system damage. So in some people, when the vaccine triggers the production of spike proteins in order to stimulate an immune response, the produced spike proteins damage vascular systems cells even though the reproductive system of the cell is not hijacked and no viruses are replicated. The spike protein doesn't destroy cells like viral replication does, but it does damage them.

So we have blood clotting, heart issues, and other vascular system damage in some vaccine recipients. How do you know if you are one of the people that will react negatively? No idea. Maybe in time researchers will find the reason, but it won't be soon.

^^^ Conclusion, the decision to take this experimental drug should be up to the individual and the individual only. It's downright criminal that companies would require it of their employees or patrons, and tyrannical for any government entity to do so.

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Originally posted by konata88:
Thanks guys. I’ll check the suggestions for source and dosage. I need to find a local source. TSC indicating shipments not allowed to this state. Not sure where to check yet. Wonder if hcq is easier.

How to Get Ivermectin

https://covid19criticalcare.co...w-to-get-ivermectin/

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Originally posted by wcb6092:

How to Get Ivermectin

https://covid19criticalcare.co...w-to-get-ivermectin/

Thanks! Reading....

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
98.4%? Maybe over the age of 85. Isn't the overall survival rate more like 99.8%?

Overall survival in the US is 98.2, but you're right about the age differences. A 20 year old's survival chances may not be 100%, but close.

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Originally posted by MNSIG:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
98.4%? Maybe over the age of 85. Isn't the overall survival rate more like 99.8%?

Overall survival in the US is 98.2, but you're right about the age differences. A 20 year old's survival chances may not be 100%, but close.

Check the age distributions as they really tell the tale. Anyone under something like 60 with no major health conditions has a survival rate north of ~99.5%. As such, Covid does not represent a significant risk of death or significant damage for 'most' people. I've also read analyses that indicate a huge percentage of the "600k" people (a bogus number in itself) who've died of Covid in this country were north of 80 years old and virtually all had at least two co-morbidities. It's very clear at this point just who this virus kills, and that for the rest of us, it does not pose a substantial risk on any level. Again, virtually everything we've been told about the virus to date has been utter BS.