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Originally posted by MNSIG:

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Originally posted by PASig:I sure hope all you guys that rushed out to get this so-called “vaccine” are still with us in a year or two.

Every red blood cell that was in my body in February when I got #2 has been replaced by now, so if I'm dead in two years, it won't be from what's shown in those photos.

You do not want to make that assertion. Contrary to the opinions of the liars and morons pushing this vaccine, no one has long term data on the effects of MRNA administered as it has been in this vaccine. It may not be an issue at all, or it could result in major health issues. No one will know for sure for 3-4 years at a minimum.

We Just Got Even More Proof that Stay-At-Home Orders Lethally Backfired

A new study finds that lockdown orders didn’t reduce overall mortality, and may have even increased it.

Life under lockdown was hard for all of us. From economic destruction to social isolation, the costs of restrictive government policies intended to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 have been steep. But now, yet another study suggests that the benefits wrought by our collective sacrifice were negligible at best—and that stay-at-home orders may even have increased overall mortality.

In a new paper, economists from the University of Southern California and the RAND Corporation examined the effectiveness of “shelter-in-place” (SIP) mandates, aka stay-at-home orders, using data from 43 countries and all 50 US states. The experts analyze not just deaths from COVID-19, but “excess deaths,” a measure that compares overall deaths from all causes to a historical baseline.

The authors explain that lockdown orders may have had lethal unintended consequences in their own right, such as increased drug overdoses, worsened mental health problems, increased child abuse, deadly delays in non-COVID medical care, and more. So, to find out whether stay-at-home orders truly helped more than they hurt, examining excess deaths, not just pandemic outcomes, is key.

The results aren’t pretty.

“We fail to find that shelter-in-place policies saved lives,” the authors report. Indeed, they conclude that in the weeks following the implementation of these policies, excess mortality actually increases—even though it had typically been declining before the orders took effect. And across all countries, the study finds that a one-week increase in the length of stay-at-home policies corresponds with 2.7 more excess deaths per 100,000 people.

The lockdowns simply didn’t work.

“We failed to find that countries or U.S. states that implemented SIP policies earlier, and in which SIP policies had longer to operate, had lower excess deaths than countries/U.S. states that were slower to implement SIP policies,” the authors explain.

And their finding is no outlier. A number of other credible studies have similarly concluded that lockdowns were ineffective at slowing the spread of COVID-19. Plus, other research now shows that most COVID-19 spread occurred at home, not out in the world, making stay-at-home orders all the more absurd in hindsight.

Of course, there is tremendous resistance to acknowledging the fact that the sacrifice we all, to varying extents, endured evidently accomplished nothing—and may have even left us worse off. But we must acknowledge and grapple with this painful truth to ward off similar mistakes in the future.

The takeaway here is not just that stay-at-home orders are an ineffective public policy. It’s that politicians will always claim they can solve our problems if just given enough centralized power. But we must not fall for their rhetoric and focus only on the seen, tangible benefits of government action—like potentially slowing the spread of COVID-19. We must also consider the unseen and unexpected second-order effects and consequences.

https://fee.org/articles/we-ju...-lethally-backfired/

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by MNSIG:

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Originally posted by PASig:I sure hope all you guys that rushed out to get this so-called “vaccine” are still with us in a year or two.

Every red blood cell that was in my body in February when I got #2 has been replaced by now, so if I'm dead in two years, it won't be from what's shown in those photos.

You do not want to make that assertion. Contrary to the opinions of the liars and morons pushing this vaccine, no one has long term data on the effects of MRNA administered as it has been in this vaccine. It may not be an issue at all, or it could result in major health issues. No one will know for sure for 3-4 years at a minimum.

My assertion pertains only to the photos of the clotting. I'm quite certain I haven't been walking around with jelly in my veins for the past 4 months without noticing. I agree that it is possible (though unlikely) that I will die of some other vaccine side effect down the road. The same can be said of those that seem to have recovered from natural infection. We just don't know what 5 years will bring. I don't judge anyone for getting it or not.

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I agree that it is possible (though unlikely) that I will die of some other vaccine side effect down the road. The same can be said of those that seem to have recovered from natural infection. We just don't know what 5 years will bring. I don't judge anyone for getting it or not.

I agree with all of that, MNSIG.
There's simply no reason to judge anyone for getting it or not. It's a personal decision.

Unfortunately, it's increasingly a coerced or forced decision:
BJC HealthCare will require employee COVID-19 vaccination
All team members must be fully vaccinated by September 15, 2021
https://www.bjc.org/Newsroom/A...rotect-against-virus

Take the jab, or get fired.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Unfortunately, it's increasingly a coerced or forced decision:
BJC HealthCare will require employee COVID-19 vaccination
All team members must be fully vaccinated by September 15, 2021

And that is total BS in my opinion. You may recall that I'm a dentist. We work in aerosols every day and have been classified in the highest risk category. Still, I WILL NOT force my employees to get vaccinated. My personal risk/benefit favored getting it, but I may be spectacularly wrong in my assessment. I would feel awful if I forced someone to get vaccinated and they had a serious bad reaction. What about younger staff who may get pregnant? I know "they" say it is safe, but you know dang well it would be in the back of their mind if anything went wrong with a future child. No way I'd coerce them. They made their own decisions.

Merck ran a clinical trail on RNA technology for COVID19 vaccination and pulled the plug without blinking an eye. Why?

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
Merck ran a clinical trail on RNA technology for COVID19 vaccination and pulled the plug without blinking an eye. Why?

Their vaccine produced insufficient immune response and Pfizer and Moderna were well out ahead. No point in throwing more money into it at that point.

https://www.oann.com/doctor-re...deleted-nih-archive/


OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 8:46 AM PT – Thursday, June 24, 2021

Anthony Fauci’s National Institutes of Health (NIH) is found to have deleted the coronavirus genome data amid ongoing investigations into its origins.

In his new study, Dr. Jesse Bloom of the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle said he has retrieved the early genome data for COVID-19 from a digital archive at the NIH. Bloom said the recovered data includes gene sequences from virus samples collected in Wuhan in early 2020 and it shows COVID-19 circulated among the public well before the pandemic was announced.

“Coronaviruses are the only RNA viruses with a proofreading…meaning they have a mutation rate that is somewhat lower than the mutation rate of something that might influence a virus,” he explained.

Dr. Bloom went on to argue that analyzing early COVID-19 data is very important to defeat the illness.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Take the jab, or get fired.

Here's what's happening at my place of employment...

The Company and our "tits on a boar hog" Union agreed that anyone taking the jab would be paid 13 hours additional pay...coerce them with MONEY!!! I think it actually incentivized some pilots to go ahead and get jabbed. Sorry Company and "tits on a boar hog" Union...not this pilot.

Secondly, the Company and our "tits on a boar hog" Union have agreed that IF you are awarded trips in your monthly bid or are assigned trips as a Reserve pilot, and the country to which you're flying REQUIRES the flight crew to be vaccinated before entering the country and you're not vaccinated, the trip will be summarily removed from your schedule WITHOUT pay.

To boot, since the trip has been removed from the pilot's schedule, the pilot is summarily PROHIBITED from picking up any trip in Open Time to recoup the lost income from the removed trip. To me and others fighting this TYRANNY at our company, this is straight up PUNITIVE PUNISHMENT.

I would like to know what part of this TYRANNY does NOT violate my God-given right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness???? What the actual FUCK, over???

Here's a link to a forum moderated by Michelle Malkin that addresses the issue with the airline industry. One of our senior Captains participated in that forum. On the panel as well is Dr. Simone Gold. If you recall, Dr. Gold was the doctor who, along with a group of like-minded physicians, advocated the use of Hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for Covid. The Pravda, Communist media, AMA, and Health-care industry IMMEDIATELY denounced her because "Orange Man Bad". She was summarily fired. Worth the watch...

https://americasfrontlinedocto...ith-michelle-malkin/

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Originally posted by MNSIG:
I don't judge anyone for getting it or not.

Nor will I. But having been a senior analyst for a long time, I tend to question everything by nature, and take nothing at face value. As you noted, forcing anyone to take the poke to maintain their livelihood or even their ability to participate in society is beyond reprehensible. Add to that that this vaccine isn't fully tested and is being administered under an emergency authorization, and forcing people to take it is IMO criminal. I fear this little health incident has opened Pandora's Box wide to massive government abuse on virtually every level going forward.

Ivermectin

Lest we forget, one of the requirements of the Emergency Use Authorization that makes distribution of the vaccines legal without FDA approval is that there cannot be a readily available and sufficiently effective treatment already on the market. This more than anything else is why Ivermectin and other drugs such as Hydroxychloroquine have been so vehemently opposed and utterly suppressed. If they’re proven to be effective, the vaccine train comes to a screeching halt before the Powers and Principalities achieve their goals.

In reality, Ivermectin has been proven to be effective through multiple studies already. There are still many that are ongoing. Thousands of doctors have prescribed it for Covid-19, yet the government is still illegally pushing the vaccines and will continue to do so until one of two things happen. The best case scenario is that word spreads about the need for the people to rise up and demand the government acknowledge the efficacy of Ivermectin.

Dr. Joseph Mercola put together an excellent case for the efficacy of Ivermectin. We have permission to publish it here in its entirety. It’s important that both messages remain attached. First, Ivermectin works. Second, we must make as many people aware of this fact as possible.

The Tablet That Cracked COVID

Ivermectin, a broad-spectrum anti-parasitic that also has anti-inflammatory activity, has shown remarkable success in preventing and treating COVID-19
The drug is available over-the-counter in some countries, such as France, and 3.7 billion doses have been administered in the last 40 years, with serious side effects extremely rare
Expert physicians have called on the NIH, CDC and FDA to review the expansive data on ivermectin to prevent COVID-19, keep those with early symptoms from progressing and help critically ill patients recover
Legal fights have ensued, with family members enlisting lawyers to battle hospital boards in order to give their dying loved ones the lifesaving pills — even when all other treatment options have been exhausted
Despite the undisputable data showing ivermectin works for COVID-19, it continues to be ignored in favor of more expensive, and less effective, treatments and mass experimental vaccination

There’s a medication that has been found to reduce COVID-19 mortality by 81%.1 The icing on the cake? It’s also safe, inexpensive and widely available, with decades of clinical usage suggesting it has a “high margin of safety.”2 The drug is ivermectin — a broad-spectrum anti-parasitic that also has anti-inflammatory activity.

There’s a good chance, however, that you probably haven’t heard about it. And, if you or a loved one had COVID-19, there’s also a high probability that you didn’t receive this potentially life-saving treatment, even though doctors have been begging health agencies to make it part of official COVID-19 treatment guidelines since nearly the start of the pandemic.

One professor and doctor, Hector Carvallo, who has found his science documenting ivermectin’s effectiveness for COVID-19 “quickly scrubbed from the internet,” wrote to colleagues, “I am afraid we have affected the most sensitive organ on humans: the wallet.”3

In June 2021, we’re at the point when the data on ivermectin are really undebatable. It’s a safe, existing option to treat COVID-19, and an alternative to vaccination, but if it were to become mainstream, it would make the COVID-19 vaccine Emergency Use Authorization disappear because, with a readily available treatment, there’s no need for mass, emergency vaccination.

https://truthbasedmedia.com/20...-driving-everything/

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Ivermectin

It should be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain stem that this is nothing more than the world's biggest money grab. Why would doctors, experts, and everyone in front of a camera so actively attempt to destroy any and all drugs that have proven cheap, effective, and readily available in dealing with Covid. And just contemplate for a moment how many people worldwide had to die to keep this coverup going just to protect the profits of some of the wealthiest companies and their shareholders.

I bought 1 liter of Ivermectin at Tractor Supply last fall. $20.

That same exact product is now $43 at Tractor Supply.

The packaging on the one I purchased last year says "pharmaceutical grade".

The new packaging now says "for animal use only".

Yeah - because you manufacture the animal version in a completely different factory than the human use version.

The Variantdemic will never end if the powers-that-be have their way

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Ivermectin

It should be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain stem that this is nothing more than the world's biggest money grab.

I've said it before, here in SF's pages, many times: The western "health care" system is not about the health of people, but about the health of the western "health care" system. The evidence of the truth of my assertion is overwhelming.

I had long suspected this was the case. Then came what I found about red yeast rice. (Link chosen at random.) Red yeast rice has been in use by millions the world over for centuries. Then along comes Big Pharma with synthetically-produced statins to lower LDL. When studies were done that showed RYR contains naturally-occurring statin and was just as effective as the expensive prescription stuff at lowering LDL, Big Pharma persuaded the FDA to fix the problem. The problem of course, being Big Pharma's bottom line. The FDA complied.

The FDA is not there to protect you from the pharmaceutical industry or anybody else. It's there to protect the bottom-lines of the industries it's supposed to regulate.

At Philadelphia Airport yesterday. I dig it.

As we in the South say about this, “Well bless his heart.”

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Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
As we in the South say about this, “Well bless his heart.”

You referring to that shirt? The shirt is great.

He's a transvaxxite.

From the CDC website:


Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

"As of March 24, 2021, there are three COVID-19 vaccines available for use in the United States under Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). These vaccines are monitored by VAERS and several other vaccine safety monitoring systems as part of the most intensive vaccine safety monitoring effort in U.S. history. This continuous, robust safety monitoring helps keep COVID-19 vaccines safe and helps ensure the benefits of vaccination continue to outweigh any risks.

Learn more about Ensuring COVID-19 Vaccine Safety in the U.S.

Healthcare providers are required to report certain adverse events following COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS. Learn about COVID-19 vaccine EUA reporting requirements for healthcare providersexternal icon."

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesaf...ing/vaers/index.html



https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesaf...anchor_1617388966905



Here, this is what I turned up, see for yourself:

https://wonder.cdc.gov/control...5A5A304E28895D64709C



So I plugged in all vaccines, all deaths, all years, all locations, essentially all factors inclusive, and got a chart showing that of 14,950 vaccine related deaths reported since 1988,

58.35% occured from 1988 to 2020, and 41.65% occured in 2021 year to date.

Prior to 2021, the yearly percentages ranged from 0.01% to 4.03% in 2019.

Then 41.65% of all reported vaccine deaths occurred in the 2021 half year!
Did I do this correctly?

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Originally posted by RichardC:
Then 41.65% of all reported vaccine deaths occurred in the 2021 half year!
Did I do this correctly?

I believe the raw data includes all deaths that occurred in vaccinated individuals at this point. It doesn't mean they died FROM the vaccine. We've discussed how the Covid death count was over stated by including those that died with it as opposed to from it. This is subject to the same bias.