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No hospitals flooded.

More as you wrote, an increase of positve test case results, and "large viral loads" references by the State Minister for Health for that one individual 'typhoid mary'.

Whatever 'viral load' means.
Someone needs to take an extreme dump?

--chris

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Originally posted by cjevans:
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No hospitals flooded.

More as you wrote, an increase of positve test case results, and "large viral loads" references by the State Minister for Health for that one individual 'typhoid mary'.

Whatever 'viral load' means.
Someone needs to take an extreme dump?

--chris

Do you notice how the narrative has shifted from “we don’t want to overload the hospitals” to “we must eliminate all sickness!”

This is an impossible goal, but they know that.

Why would the Indian variant entice more people to get vaccinated? It's not covered by the current/outdated vaccine anyway.

Interesting development in Seychelles, dubbed the most vaccinated country in the world, where roughly 1/3 of all recent COVID cases were in fully vaccinated residents.

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
Why would the Indian variant entice more people to get vaccinated? It's not covered by the current/outdated vaccine anyway.

Interesting development in Seychelles, dubbed the most vaccinated country in the world, where roughly 1/3 of all recent COVID cases were in fully vaccinated residents.

Didn't they predominantly use the non-effective Chinese vaccine there?

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by cjevans:
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No hospitals flooded.

More as you wrote, an increase of positve test case results, and "large viral loads" references by the State Minister for Health for that one individual 'typhoid mary'.

Whatever 'viral load' means.
Someone needs to take an extreme dump?

--chris

Do you notice how the narrative has shifted from “we don’t want to overload the hospitals” to “we must eliminate all sickness!”

This is an impossible goal, but they know that.

I think you’ve missed that cjevans is in Australia. With a population of 26,000,000; they’ve had 30,000 cases and 910 deaths. Compare that with Florida; population 22,000,000; 2,320,000 cases, and 36,733 deaths. Australia did something different, better, or sooner than most of the rest of the world.

We may need a deeper dive into how Aussies are counting deaths and cases.

Let's not forgot the US used cycle counts way above 30 to get "positive" cases AND we counted "deaths" if they simply had covid in their system -- for example George Floyd was counted as a covid death.

Before people start going off the deep end (again) in regards to how the US "did or didn't do things", look at the numbers provided. 593K deaths with 33.2M reported cases. That means either a positive test result, or a positive gleaned from a report of symptoms that match covid. From this data alone, you can figure out a mortality rate of a mere .018. Does anyone believe that there weren't vastly more unreported cases of infection? Or that deaths weren't inflated because someone that died tested positive for covid?

This was horse shit in the extreme. Yes, the elderly or health compromised were clearly much more at risk, but the lengths we were forced into were clearly absurd.

I'm of the mind that WAY more people had the wuflu and either didn't know it, or symptoms were light enough that they thought it was something else like the common cold...you know, which is caused by a coronavirus. Right now, tested cases are at a mere 10% of our population. if we only double the number of positive tests, to 20% being infected over that 1.5 years, the mortality is only .009%; on par with seasonal flu. And IMO, 20% is likely far lower than reality for a bug as reportedly as virulent as covid-19.

The powers that be trying to force, entice, or bribe people into the snake oil vaccine is not warranted by a long shot.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by cjevans:
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No hospitals flooded.

More as you wrote, an increase of positve test case results, and "large viral loads" references by the State Minister for Health for that one individual 'typhoid mary'.

Whatever 'viral load' means.
Someone needs to take an extreme dump?

--chris

Do you notice how the narrative has shifted from “we don’t want to overload the hospitals” to “we must eliminate all sickness!”

This is an impossible goal, but they know that.

I think you’ve missed that cjevans is in Australia. With a population of 26,000,000; they’ve had 30,000 cases and 910 deaths. Compare that with Florida; population 22,000,000; 2,320,000 cases, and 36,733 deaths. Australia did something different, better, or sooner than most of the rest of the world.

If you look at the raw data, you will see that evidently the US did "something" better than Australia. 30,000 cases with 910 deaths works out to a mortality rate of .03%; nearly twice the mortality rate of the US.

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:
Why would the Indian variant entice more people to get vaccinated? It's not covered by the current/outdated vaccine anyway.

Interesting development in Seychelles, dubbed the most vaccinated country in the world, where roughly 1/3 of all recent COVID cases were in fully vaccinated residents.

Didn't they predominantly use the non-effective Chinese vaccine there?

Yes, I can't recall the name but it wasn't anything I had heard of before.

You really can't compare raw numbers either. What is the obesity rate in Aus? That seems like THE comorbidity that has a really good chance of dying.

I'd be willing to be American's are, on average, a lot fatter than Australians.

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Originally posted by trapper189:


I think you’ve missed that cjevans is in Australia. With a population of 26,000,000; they’ve had 30,000 cases and 910 deaths. Compare that with Florida; population 22,000,000; 2,320,000 cases, and 36,733 deaths. Australia did something different, better, or sooner than most of the rest of the world.

I know full well he’s from Australia.

They’re essentially a huge continent sized ISLAND and had been closed down tight these past 15 months until now with travelers doing dumb things.

You actually think them putting their own people under endless house arrest is the answer?

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by trapper189:


I think you’ve missed that cjevans is in Australia. With a population of 26,000,000; they’ve had 30,000 cases and 910 deaths. Compare that with Florida; population 22,000,000; 2,320,000 cases, and 36,733 deaths. Australia did something different, better, or sooner than most of the rest of the world.

I know full well he’s from Australia.

They’re essentially a huge continent sized ISLAND and had been closed down tight these past 15 months until now with travelers doing dumb things.

You actually think them putting their own people under endless house arrest is the answer?

I’ve come to understand some people do think that.

This corrupt and evil weasel needs to go to hell STAT!

From Townhall.com -

Bombshell: Fauci Said Risk of Manipulating Bat Viruses Was Worth a Potential Pandemic

A couple of the gems from the article -

“According to The Weekend Australian, Fauci wrote in 2012 that continuing dangerous gain-of-function research was worth the risk of a pandemic.”

and

“In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic?” he wrote. “Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario – however remote – should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision?

Scientists working in this field might say – as indeed I have said – that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks.”

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Originally posted by PASig:

I know full well he’s from Australia.

They’re essentially a huge continent sized ISLAND and had been closed down tight these past 15 months until now with travelers doing dumb things.

You actually think them putting their own people under endless house arrest is the answer?

Find one single post where I’ve put forth that idea. My mistake. I thought there might be something there worth discussing, but I forgot logic and reason left this thread 550 pages ago.

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Originally posted by gearhounds: 30,000 cases with 910 deaths works out to a mortality rate of .03%; nearly twice the mortality rate of the US.

It's actually about 3%, not .03%. US is about 2%. I'm only referring to the calculation. The actual number of cases or deaths attributable to Covid are another matter.

It will be decades before rational people begin to document the mass hysteria that was associated with this pathogen...unbelievable time to be alive.

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Originally posted by mbinky:
What is the obesity rate in Aus?

Though I am unsure about the co-relation, nonetheless, an interesting thought.

There is an obesity issue in Australia. Though we are 4th behind the US world wide.

Data is determined using BMI - Body Mass Index, weight to height. In Aus, a measurement of 30kg/m over - an Aus standard - is obesity.

The obesity rate in Australia has been steadily rising. 31% of Aus adults are obese (2020). Men more than women.

The problem with the statistics, is that the data is under developed. The last was from the Aus Bureau of Statistics in 2017.

I have yet to find any correlation to obesity and COVID. It's likely there.

In the meantime, less house arrest, during the seven-day “circuit breaker” lockdown, residents are only allowed to leave their homes for five reasons:
- getting food and supplies
- authorised work
- care and caregiving
- exercise for up to 2 hours each day with one other person
- getting vaccinated or C-19 tested.

And allowances for intimacy bubbles with one other.

This lockdown is very much the conversational item both in this state, and with friends, and colleagues in other states.

For the Aus Volunteer Coast Guard, we are on emergency call out only, no regular duty.

Right now, there are folks out walking and exercising.

I'm heading out soon, a 1/2 mile walk down to the local cafe; for coffee, no pastries.

--chris

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Australia did something different, better, or sooner than most of the rest of the world.

Maybe, just maybe, they opted to accurately report the numbers associated with this bug instead of bastardizing the numbers constantly to fit an ongoing narrative. The case total for Florida (just like everywhere else) is a meaningless metric, and I don't for a moment believe the death count is even remotely accurate as to cause of death.

Every single aspect of this 'pandemic' has been utter bullshit. A never ending stream of lies and stupidity that only successfully accomplished one thing...the revocation of American freedoms and Constitutional rights.

Is Ivermectin the New Penicillin?

https://www.thedesertreview.co...59-af11e3c83aea.html

As those Indian States using Ivermectin continue to diverge in cases and deaths from those states that forbid it, the natural experiment illustrates the power of Ivermectin decisively.

Cases in Delhi, where Ivermectin was begun on April 20, dropped from 28,395 to just 2,260 on May 22. This represents an astounding 92% drop. Likewise, cases in Uttar Pradesh have dropped from 37,944 on April 24 to 5,964 on May 22 - a decline of 84%.

Delhi and Uttar Pradesh followed the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) guidance published April 20, 2021, which called for dosing of .2 mg per kg of Ivermectin per body weight for three days. This amounts to 15 mg per day for a 150-pound person or 18 mg per day for a 200-pound individual.

The other three Indian states that adopted it are all down as well. Goa is down from 4,195 to 1,647, Uttarakhand is down from 9,624 to 2,903, and Karnataka is down from 50,112 to 31,183. Goa adopted a pre-emptive policy of mass Ivermectin prevention for the entire adult population over age 18 at a dose of 12 mg daily for five days.

Meanwhile, Tamil Nadu announced on May 14 they were outlawing Ivermectin in favor of the politically correct Remdesivir. As a result, Tamil Nadu's cases are up in the same time frame from April 20 to May 22 - 10,986 to 35,873 - more than a tripling.

Although Big Pharma and Big Media have scrambled to try, they cannot explain away this natural experiment. As I predicted May 12, they would first argue "the lockdowns worked." The problem with this is that Tamil Nadu has been on strict lockdown for weeks as their cases have done nothing but climb. So the lockdown did not work.

Their next argument was that "there has been a shift from the highly populated urban areas like Delhi and Mumbai" to the hinterlands, like Tamil Nadu. The big problem is that the adjacent state, Karnataka is just as rural, and its cases are dropping on Ivermectin.

Uttar Pradesh is near the Himalayas and out in the far non-urbanized north where cases are down 84% with Ivermectin. Uttarakhand is even more rural and located in the Himalayas next to Nepal. Its infections are down 70% with Ivermectin.

Their final argument lacked any proof. It was essentially an attempt to smear Ivermectin through association with another drug. It attempted to link Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) with Ivermectin unfairly. While HCQ has become a punchline by the media, scientists like Dr. George Fareed know it is effective against COVID-19 – especially in the early stages.

Dr. Fareed and his associate, Dr. Brian Tyson, have treated some 6,000 patients with nearly 100% success using a combination of HCQ, Ivermectin, Fluvoxamine, and various nutraceuticals, including zinc Vitamin D.

https://www.thedesertreview.co...9a-f3e1151e98c3.html

Unfortunately, none of this has made it through the censorship of the mainstream media, and the public has not heard about the 200 plus studies that reflect HCQ's effectiveness against COVID-19. The fact remains that HCQ has an undeserved negative connotation due to its connection with Trump, which is unfortunately used to tarnish other life-saving repurposed drugs, like Ivermectin. For example, in the recent Forbes article, journalist Ray uses the title, "Is Ivermectin the New Hydroxychloroquine?"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/s...xperts-urge-caution/

Ray does not make a single substantive argument against Ivermectin; instead, he attempts to defame, debase or degrade it by repeating baseless accusations. For example, Ray cited Merck's recommendation against Ivermectin as evidence of ineffectiveness, while Merck used no evidence to support their claim. In addition, he cited the FDA's recommendation against Ivermectin, yet the FDA admits they have not reviewed the data on which to base this conclusion: "The FDA has not reviewed data to support the use of Ivermectin in COVID-19 patients to treat or prevent COVID-19..."

As we all know, Merck was involved in the development of a competing drug and had 356 million reasons to throw its own cheap, unprofitable Ivermectin under the bus. Furthermore, the US government was likewise involved in a significant financial conflict of interest with Merck.

https://trialsitenews.com/is-t...analogy-appropriate/

The story of Ivermectin is more similar to that of Penicillin. Penicillin has saved almost 200 million lives. In addition, three men shared a Nobel Prize in 1945 for its discovery.

Ivermectin's discoverers won the 2015 Noble Prize in Medicine, and it has proven to be a life-saving drug in parasitic disease, especially in Africa. Over the past four decades, Ivermectin has saved millions from parasites like strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis - river blindness.

It has already saved tens of thousands from COVID-19 in India in those few locations that use it. It crashed Mexico's, Slovakia's, and Zimbabwe’s cases. I remain more convinced than ever that Ivermectin will bring an end to this Pandemic as the word gets out and more people share the book, Ivermectin for the World. A more fitting title to the Forbes piece might be, "Is Ivermectin the New Penicillin?"

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Yes
Ivermectin, The Drug That Cracked COVID and Treated President Trump.
Link

There is so much hype over the vaccines by all elements of big pharma, government and media; and there has been such widespread acceptance of the hype by millions of Americans who have taken the vaccine; it is important to consider how those invested people would react to any conversation about an inexpensive, safe and effective treatment now.

So many people have bought into the vaccine narrative, and so many people have exposed themselves to the risks of an untested, non-FDA approved experimental treatment, they simply will not be able to admit (or accept) any form of truth that runs counter to that narrative. To admit alternative safe treatments were the better option, is to admit you have been duped and exposed yourself to risk unnecessarily.