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I don't know if you can go with those numbers. COVID-19 is like many viruses that cause the common cold. There is a certain segment of the population who will become infected and never show any symptoms. It is unlikely many of those people will ever be diagnosed. It is also possible that there are people who get sick and think they have a cold and never get tested. You also have to keep in mind that the majority of deaths have occurred in China and have been elderly men. A very high percentage of men in China smoke. So these are people who have compromised respiratory systems. | |||
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I'll send you a PM. | |||
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Global flu death rate is as high as 10%. https://www.medscape.com/answe...20500%2C000%20deaths. US flu death rate much MUCH lower. In no percent based metric I've seen yet does it even compare to the flu in fatalities. Let's all try to keep in mind that most c19 deaths were in China. Again, cigarettes out the ass, ghastly air pollution, and largely an elderly demographic for those who died.  | |||
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Yup, no question there are a lot of variables at play and there may be more deaths in certain areas for certain reasons. My biggest concern is making sure my Mom never gets it or the flu. She is in late stages of Leukemia and I really feel if she got either disease it would have a high probability of killing her. I don’t want that. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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The flaw in that thinking is the FLU data is compiled from years and years of history. It's a known entity, has vaccines, and medicine. The Coronavirus is just getting started and there is no historical data to look at, nothing to compare it to, nothing to combat it. Bottom Line, nobody knows how drastic the Coronavirus will be. | |||
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Thought this was amusing. Carona beer sales are way down since this whole thing started. I guess some people think the virus is brewing the beer. https://thecount.com/2020/01/2...r-corona-virus-beer/ | |||
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| Just for the hell of it  |
So people buying a few cases of water. What does that do? Do they think the US water supply is going to become unsafe because of this virus? If it does a few cases of water are not going to go far. I am guessing my backpacking water filter will go further. That a the bleach I have for laundry. Now what I really need are a few more N95 masks. Not for the virus but for projects I need to get done. Guess I will be stretching out the life of the ones I have laying around. _____________________________________ Because in the end, you won’t remember the time you spent working in the office or mowing your lawn. Climb that goddamn mountain. Jack Kerouac | |||
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Yeah, I had planned to wire brush and repaint all my rusting lintels this Spring/Summer. Now I need to hope that I have enough face masks in the garage... | |||
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I saw that and that is pretty sad. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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Same with nitrile gloves. I use them every night when cooking. I don’t like handling raw meat with my bare hands. I wear a pair of gloves and can take them off without washing my hands. Now all gloves are sold out! I want gloves, but they have nothing to do with the virus. NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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| Seeker of Clarity |
And so therefore, we look to all of the many other similar respiratory infections for insight. And with that data, we can extrapolate that young people do exceedingly well, and elderly or otherwise compromised people do worse comparatively. And we can extrapolate that 3rd world countries have worse death rates than 1st world. And thus what we've seen in China won't translate at that 3% death rate. But by all means, if you want to imagine this shit came off an asteroid or something, and is absolutely incomparable to anything that has come in the past, have at it. My thinking is flawed after all. | |||
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Ammoholic |
Make life easier. I have cases of water, I have life straws, I have a fresh unopened bottle of bleach, I have a tub, I have a camp stove, and I have a hot water heater. Bottled water is way easier than anything else. I don't go through many masks at work so I have two, not sure what circumstances I would ever use on as they are mostly useless for protection throughout the day, but greatly useful for Drs/Nurses (the people who keep us from dying when we are sick). People buying them up are wasting their money AND making us less safe. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| Non-Miscreant |
We used to joke about picking up old used rubbers and washing them out for reuse. Guess we could do that with the Nitrile gloves the local cops and fire/rescue personnel use and then drop on the ground. Could advertise them on Craigslist for 10x as much as they used to cost.  Its time to consider gambling. If you've got N95 masks, hold them for a while till the panic gets going really good, then profiteer and sell them to the highest bidder. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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This virus acts more like SARS or ebola when it comes to infectiousness and the total time people are contagious, it does not act like the flu where people are only contagious for the day before, time during, and 1 day after the flu. It is NOT similar to other respiratory illnesses, otherwise a medicine or vaccine we already have would work for it. HIV/AIDS was absolutely incomparable to anything that has come in the past. And just now, over 3 decades later do we have medicines that keep it in check. I'm not one to say the sky is falling, but in a wait and see mode, to see actually how bad it will be as this could be the tip of the iceberg. But to compare it to the ordinary flu is a falsehood. | |||
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So far, nothing really unexpected in the US regarding this virus. It's early, and certainly appropriate to take precautions to avoid exposure, especially if you are elderly or have underlying medical conditions. And we are only about 3 months into this "pandemic," so much is yet unknown about its probable course, or even its lethality, which ranges right now between about 0.5 and 4 percent, averaging, very dependent upon location and demographics. But people are correct to say it is unlike the seasonal flu. For example, in the US, it has not yet exceeded 50 million infections, 800,000 hospitalizations, and 50,000 deaths this year. When it does, then it will be like the flu. "And gentlemen in England now abed, shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Crispin's Day" | |||
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On the east coast of Aus, panic buying is evident in Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne ... thank you media for reporting and creating hysteria where it shouldn't be. Jeez, apparently TP has been shipped to Tassie as the wee little island is tapped out. Empty shelves of TP, hand sanitizer and sanitaries. Everyone expect to be under some self quarantine for whatever reason, and are stocking up for a 2 week + entombment. Meanwhile, on the west coast (Perth), calm as usual. Ridiculous. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~ Benjamin Franklin. "If anyone in this country doesn't minimise their tax, they want their head read, because as a government, you are not spending it that well, that we should be donating extra...: Kerry Packer SIGForum: the island of reality in an ocean of diarrhoea. | |||
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The Dark Ages had Bubonic Plague and rats.......today we have Corona and armies of homeless people............. "No matter where you go - there you are" | |||
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Dances with Wiener Dogs |
 _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | |||
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| Seeker of Clarity |
With the VERY limited information they have about infectiousness at this time (modes only for the most part), I'm not even going there, since that wasn't the point I was making at all in the first place. My point was about fatality rate. We're all gonna get this one -- or not. Either way. It likely will be no worse (no evidence to suggest that it will be), and possibly better than many of the other strains of respiratory virus. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
1 of 30 people die who get it accordingly to this. That's a raffle I really don't want to enter. Fox News Coronavirus global death rate at 3.4%, Olympics delay a possibility Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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