My wife works at the county Courthouse. Today, three people in her department tested positive for thevirus. Along with several other people in other departments. So they closed and locked down the courthouse and told all the employess to go home and self quarantine for 10 days.

I spoke with emergency management and the county health department. They told me that I was "..a contact of a contact..." and that I should continue along with my normal duties, including going to work, unless one of us got sick/developed symptoms.

Then I should call them back and they would track our movements/contacts and issue "notifications". ????? WTF? How does that make sense?

The last several months in my little corner of the Puget Sound area have been rather... instructive.

My neighbor two doors down had a psychotic episode that landed her in some sort of mental facility for a month stay. She threw a hysterical screaming fit on the sidewalk in front of her house, was stomping around and flapping her arms like a bird. Her husband tried to corral her and she stomped her feet like a toddler and screamed "THIS ISN'T ABOUT YOU!!!!" He told us later that it was all stress over the virus.

My neighbor across the street has emphysema and has locked himself in the house, glued to CNN all day, every day, as it turns out. I was mowing the lawn last week and he came over, at a little after twelve noon, wearing a set of onesie zip-up pajamas with booties and a hood, to interrupt my progress and drop a profanity-laden rant just shy of foaming at the mouth about how these were supposed to be his golden years and that's been taken from him, there's stupid motherfuckers everywhere not wearing masks and not keeping their distance, it'll be someone else's fault when he gets the virus and dies on a ventilator, and it's all Trump's fault to begin with, and hey did you see that lady in New York somewhere who went into the store not wearing a mask and all those people threw her out of the store? More people need to be doing that to these stupid motherfuckers....

It was at this point that I told him "I don't agree with that. Nobody's got a right to put their hands on someone because they think differently. " He asked if I wear a mask in public and I shook my head and said "those masks don't do anything." He replied "the mask isn't for you, it's for me. Since this thing kicked off, my wife wears a mask around me, my son does too, when he visits. What, you can't wear a mask? You got a medical reason you can't or something?" I smiled at him and said "I'm not going to live my life in fear because people said to. If you're scared of the virus, stay home, don't go around people. If I go out and get it, oh well. I'm not going to live in a bubble." The conversation went rapidly south from there, and it concluded with him telling me "fine, why don't you just go shoot some people" over and over again until I bid him a nice afternoon and said I needed to get back to mowing the lawn. He sent me a text message a few days later saying "I need to apologize for ranting the other day."

These people who are terrified and losing their shit are mentally and emotionally weak. A strong man doesn't send a lame-ass text saying he "needs to apologize," he changes out of his cutesy jammies, puts on adult clothes, walks his 70 year old ass that should know better by now across the street, knocks on the door and when I answer he says "Hey, I apologize about the other day" or "Sorry, I was out of line." Mentally strong people don't go googley-eyed and slowly turn their heads to gape at you in horror behind their hand-made fabric mask when you clear your throat in the produce section at the grocery store... a good twenty feet away, as happened to me today.

I took a sabbatical of sorts from the internet and technology in mid-March and I swear, it was the best thing I could have done for myself. I stayed home, turned off my phone and put it in the back of the safe, read books, re-learned how to write with a pen and paper, and made some serious changes to my health. Feel better than I've felt in years. I get back on the internet and start venturing back out into public again and this is precisely how I feel:

I was in W. Wa. recently and everything seemed pretty normal. Most people or a least a lot of people were not wearing masks. Those that where did not seem weirded out.
Actually went in a restaurant and had pan fried oysters. Oh man almost forgot how good they are.

It's better now than it was a few months ago, to be sure. Depends where you go, I guess. There's areas where the whacky is pretty concentrated.

So far so good here in Northern Michigan. Lots of maskers at Walgreens and Wal-Mart yesterday. Mostly, older folks with their poorly fitted masks under their noses. I did talk to a school teacher from Detroit who was walking the beach. He told me how bad it was in Detroit and how a group of his friends made the national news for contracting it while on a ski trip. Of the 9 of them, 1 died, 3 more hospitalized, and 2 we're really sick. We talked a bit about kids not being in school and at some point he mentioned we all have to do our part. At that point, all I could think of was why didn't your hypocritical ass do your part by staying in Detroit rather than fleeing for greener pastures?

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Originally posted by 18DAI:
My wife works at the county Courthouse. Today, three people in her department tested positive for thevirus. Along with several other people in other departments. So they closed and locked down the courthouse and told all the employess to go home and self quarantine for 10 days.

I spoke with emergency management and the county health department. They told me that I was "..a contact of a contact..." and that I should continue along with my normal duties, including going to work, unless one of us got sick/developed symptoms.

Then I should call them back and they would track our movements/contacts and issue "notifications". ????? WTF? How does that make sense?

How does it not make sense? Your wife may have been exposed to the virus, so she stays home for a period as a precaution. If nothing happens during her quarantine period, she goes about her merry way. If she developed symptoms, she gets tested and the health department does contact tracing and warns those contacts that they may have been exposed. If she doesn't developed symptoms, but you do, same thing including your contacts.

People are slowly starting to normalize. Fear is a powerful emotion. Most of our problems stem from our broken corporate media...they enable the nonsense.

with the riots and looting fading -- looks like Corona virus is back in the news as the current hysteria


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Originally posted by bdylan:
People are slowly starting to normalize.

Not here in Santa Fe. The city council just passed an ordinance of some sort mandating masks to be worn at all times in public, with certain exceptions such as when you're actually eating or drinking.

I have not actually read the thing yet, but from what I hear there is no sunset language. First time warning, subsequent $50 fines.

It is unclear if they truly have the power to do this.

On one hand these crazy liberals want to abolish the police- on the other hand they want to use them as a threat and think that they have nothing better to do than to respond to a surge in calls about people not wearing masks. You can't have it both ways.

I expect this to turn ugly very quickly as people start to rat each other out even more than they have already been doing.

First the local rag reported a steep decline in statewide cases. Then they abrupty reversed course and said there has been a surge in cases since the partial re-opening. Again- which is it? It can't be both.

It looks like I will be staying OUT of town as much as possible into the near and distant future. Morons.

If we weren't actively testing for it- Would anyone know it was in the general population?

In the 5 months since it hit Washington State I know 1 person who said they know someone who had it recently- That person had a fever for 1 day and tested positive for the corona.

The New benchmark is Tested Positive not Hospital Admissions.

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On one hand these crazy liberals want to abolish the police - on the other hand they want to use them as a threat and think that they have nothing better to do than to respond to a surge in calls about people not wearing masks. You can't have it both ways.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

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These people who are terrified and losing their shit are mentally and emotionally weak.

^^^^^^^
Are people with cancer or diabetes mentally weak? The Covid situation is creating a LARGER mental health crisis in this country. Is PTSD in veterans a weakness too??

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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These people who are terrified and losing their shit are mentally and emotionally weak.

^^^^^^^
Are people with cancer or diabetes mentally weak? The Covid situation is creating a LARGER mental health crisis in this country. Is PTSD in veterans a weakness too??

Are all people who choose to wear a mask terrified and losing their shit? Or perhaps some are just cautious? Perhaps misinformed and cautious. . perhaps brainwashed, like me.

Is there any middle ground between 'fuck it I'm not wearing a mask', and 'terrified'?

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Is there any middle ground between 'fuck it I'm not wearing a mask', and 'terrified'?

Yes, of course there is.
And each one of us has to make a decision to venture out into what we believe to be the 'middle ground' where we feel comfortable. I don't have a problem with people who are more cautious, but the Karens out there shouldn't harass those of us who go out into the world.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Is there any middle ground between 'fuck it I'm not wearing a mask', and 'terrified'?

Yes, of course there is.
And each one of us has to make a decision to venture out into what we believe to be the 'middle ground' where we feel comfortable. I don't have a problem with people who are more cautious, but the Karens out there shouldn't harass those of us who go out into the world.

Well that may just be the most reasonable statement I've read on the topic. Some here would disagree. .

You know it

Ain't no "middle ground" on this. Either we're being told the truth, or we're not being told the truth. Don't forget, you can always trust the government. Which government? Any of them. All of them. Your experience tells you this, of course. Trustworthy, competent, forthright and truthful- that's government in a nutshell.

And then, there's stupid people. I'd call 'em the wild card but they appear to be the majority of the world's population.

I trust doctors. Not all of them, but the ones I've chosen to treat me and my family. They don't have a political dog in the fight.

Yeah? Well, how do these trustworthy docs feel about IDIOTIC LEFTIST GOVERNORS AND BUREAUCRATS DESTROYING THE BEST ECONOMY ANYONE DRAWING BREATH RIGHT NOW WILL EVER SEE?

And how do they feel about all the ignorant, gullible sheep who allowed it to happen, and who actually support this absolute insanity?

"Middle ground"??? These America-hating and Trump-hating assholes have destroyed countless lives. Is that supposed to be their function??

Middle ground?? What a joke

This was just posted in the "over reach" thread:

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WHITMER REBUKED BY MICHIGAN SUPREME COURT.

Lansing Mi. – Governor Whitmer was rebuked not only by the Mi. Supreme Court on Friday in her trying to illegally close a barbershop but she also lost on June 5, when the Court of Claims stated that a portion of Whitmer’s June 5 order establishing coronavirus safety guidelines as a prerequisite to the opening of businesses was, "null and void.”

The Michigan Supreme Court stated in a rare 7-0 decision Friday, “It is incumbent on the courts to ensure decisions are made according to the rule of law, not hysteria.”

The Supreme court also stated, “Courts decide legal questions that arise in the cases that come before us according to the rule of law. One hopes that this great principle—essential to any free society, including ours—will not itself become yet another casualty of COVID-19.”

Full article: Whitmer Rebuked By Michigan Supreme Court

"...in a rare 7-0 decision Friday, “It is incumbent on the courts to ensure decisions are made according to the rule of law, not hysteria.”

That just about sums up this stupid shit.

I get it. Recommend a mask = hate's America.

You wouldn't "get it" even if it was handed to you, accompanied by a user manual.

If you can't see that this non-event has been used BY DEMOCRATS as a way to bludgeon our economy in an attempt to damage President Trump, you're blinder than blind.

But, of course, my propensity for eagerly accepting conspiracy theories is well known, so...

Well that is encouraging (MI. rullng). And we need to see a lot more of that language all across this great nation.

And Para, I know you know this. But it is not "just" about our economy. Far from it.