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Alan, I seem to remember your sister was diagnosed with Covid-19 and was asymptomatic. How is she doing? Everything still good? “Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison "Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson | |||
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DOD study raises tantalizing question: does flu shot increase vulnerability to coronaviruses? https://justthenews.com/politi..._campaign=newsletter Phenomenon known as virus interference flagged in DOD study just before COVID-19 burst. Just a few short weeks before the COVID-19 pandemic burst into public view, a medical researcher published a study on military members who got the flu shot. At the time, it barely created a ripple but its findings are now likely to have a larger impact on the future policy debate over infectious respiratory viruses. The study published by Dr. Gregory Wolff in Science magazine was entitled, “Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season" and it addressed a suspected phenomenon known as "virus interference." The question Wolff, who is with the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Branch Air Force Satellite at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, sought to answer was does the influenza vaccine, i.e. the flu shot, increase the potential for infections from other respiratory viruses. He had the perfect test population: military members who were mostly required to get the annual vaccine. His findings were mixed: Overall the "receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference” among the DOD personnel, he wrote. But he added: “Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results.” And here's the kicker. “Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus. However, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus co-infections" In other words, there was some evidence a flu shot recipient might be more vulnerable to a coronavirus although well protected against many other forms of infection. First off, the study is not a repudiation of flu vaccines, as some vaccine opponents have tried to make it. In fact, it clearly showed flu shots make a huge difference not only against influenza but many other viruses. Secondly, the study isn't specific to COVID-19, which emerged long after the study was completed. The findings were about other viruses in the coronavirus family that cause things like bad colds. And third, the study is hardly definitive. Though peer reviewed, it is known as a retrospective study looking at a past study instead of a live trial. But what the study contributes to the future policy debate is a marker that more research likely needs to be done to understand how people who get flu shots and contract a coronavirus might need to be treated. Dr. William Schaffner, a preventative medicine professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine, called the January study a a “pinprick for future research.” Schaffner told Just the News that Wolff's findings clearly merit more investigation, but then “came COVID-19 and everything COVID-19.” “It is not a definite study rather a retrospective study which does not mean it is a poor study at all,” Schaffner said. “The investigators are very good, and Dr. Wolff recognizes the limitations of a retrospective study.” The question not only has caught Schaffner's eye. On Tuesday, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the government's chief of infectious disease research at NIAID, offered his own words of caution about virus interference from vaccines when he testified before the Senate. “I must warn that there is a possibility of negative consequences where certain vaccines can actually enhance the negative effect of the infection,” he told lawmakers. The Department of Defense provides a unique population for vaccination studies because mandatory vaccination against influenza is required of all DoD Active Duty and Reserve Component personnel. Following the 1918 influenza pandemic that hit the U.S. military hard both in U.S. military camps and on the trains that transported soldiers across the country, as well as those serving overseas during World War I, the influenza vaccine was not discovered and administered to the U.S. military until 1938. This DoD 2017-2018 study was reviewed and approved by the Air Force Research Laboratory Institutional Review Board. The Department of Defense Global Respiratory Pathogen Surveillance Program (DoDGRS) was involved. It was established by the Global Emerging Infections Surveillance and Response System (GEIS). Dr. Schaffner told Just the News that the investigators are “excellent.” “However because the focus now is on COVID-19,” says Schaffner, “it will probably be pursued as a line of investigation in the future.” Just the News reached out to Dr. Wolff but he did not immediately respond for comment. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Just to lighten things up a bit... My father (a huge football fan) has taken to answering the phone "Corona Hotline, Tony speaking!" Corona Extra | Tony Romo "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Color me (un)surprised, but Washington state is out of its goddamn mind. Article
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Yes, she recovered and is back to work now. She remained mostly asymptomatic the whole time except for a cough now and then. My brother-in-law and niece also ended up catching it (not surprising since they all live together). They also were mostly asymptomatic, except my brother-in-law did lose his sense of smell. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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They're drinking the cool aide here in Washington State. https://komonews.com/news/coro...pening-until-phase-4 ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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Yet more evidence that tobacco provides protection from the virus. As for: “However, more smokers succumbed to the disease - half of smokers compared to 35% of non-smokers”, I suspect that applies to cigarette smokers rather than pipe smokers, most of whom (including me) don’t inhale. “Researchers have uncovered more evidence that smokers could be protected from the deadly coronavirus. Fewer than five per cent of 441 COVID-19 patients who needed to be admitted to an Italian hospital were smokers. The scientists described it as a 'very low' number, given that a quarter of the general population are known to be hooked on cigarettes.” https://mol.im/a/8306781 Serious about crackers | |||
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NYC health head rejected NYPD mask plea: ‘I don’t give two rats’ asses about your cops’ https://nypost.com/2020/05/13/...tter_impression=true New York City’s health commissioner blew off an urgent NYPD request for 500,000 surgical masks as the coronavirus crisis mounted — telling a high-ranking police official that “I don’t give two rats’ asses about your cops,” The Post has learned. Dr. Oxiris Barbot made the heartless remark during a brief phone conversation in late March with NYPD Chief of Department Terence Monahan, sources familiar with the matter said Wednesday. Monahan asked Barbot for 500,000 masks but she said she could only provide 50,000, the sources said. “I don’t give two rats’ asses about your cops,” Barbot said, according to sources. “I need them for others.” The conversation took place as increasing numbers of cops were calling out sick with symptoms of COVID-19 but before the department suffered its first casualties from the deadly respiratory disease, sources said. Although surgical masks don’t necessarily prevent wearers from being infected with the coronavirus, they can prevent people from spreading it to others. The NYPD has recorded 5,490 cases of coronavirus among its 55,000 cops and civilian workers, with 41 deaths, according to figures released Wednesday evening. Patrick Lynch, president of the Police Benevolent Association, called for Barbot to be fired over her “despicable and unforgivable” comments. “Dr. Barbot should be forced to look in the eye of every police family who lost a hero to this virus. Look them in the eye and tell them they aren’t worth a rat’s ass,” Lynch fumed. In the wake of Barbot’s crass rebuff of Monahan, NYPD officials learned that the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene had a large stash of masks, ventilators and other equipment stored in a New Jersey warehouse, sources said. The department appealed to City Hall, which arranged for the NYPD to get 250,000 surgical masks, sources said. The federal Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Emergency Management Agency also learned about the situation, leading FEMA to supply the NYPD with Tyvek suits and disinfectant, sources said. A source who was present during a tabletop exercise at the city Office of Emergency Management headquarters in Brooklyn in March recalled witnessing a “very tense moment” when Monahan complained to Mayor Bill de Blasio in front of Barbot about the NYPD’s need for personal protective equipment, saying, “For weeks, we haven’t gotten an answer.” De Blasio, who was seated between Monahan and Barbot, asked her, “Oxiris, what is he talking about?” the source said. When Monahan said the gear was vital to keeping cops safe, de Blasio said, “You definitely need it,” and told Barbot, “Oxiris, you’re going to fix this right now,” the source said. Last week, Barbot — who’s been a routine participant in de Blasio’s daily coronavirus briefings — was noticeably absent when Blasio announced that the city’s public hospital system would oversee a major testing and tracing program, even though the DOH has previously run similar programs. Hizzoner also heaped praise on the head of NYC Health + Hospitals, Dr. Mitchell Katz, saying, “When you have an inspired operational leader, you know, ‘Pass the ball to them’ is my attitude.” De Blasio named Barbot the city’s health commissioner in 2018 following the resignation of Dr. Mary Bassett, who took a job at Harvard University’s School of Public Health amid an investigation into the DOH’s failure to alert federal officials to elevated levels of lead in the blood of children living in city housing projects. “During the height of COVID, while our hospitals were battling to keep patients alive, there was a heated exchange between the two where things were said out of frustration but no harm was wished on anyone,” Department of Health press secretary Patrick Gallahue said, noting that Barbot “apologized for her contribution to the exchange.” The NYPD declined to comment. City Councilman Joe Borelli and Congressman Max Rose on Wednesday night joined Lynch in calling for Barbot’s ouster. “I judged the mayor incorrectly for shifting duties away from her if this is how she feels about her job,” Borelli said, referencing de Blasio’s decision to transfer the city’s testing in trace program from the Department of Health to Health + Hospitals. Rose tweeted: “This kind of attitude explains so much about City Hall’s overall response to this crisis. Dr. Barbot shouldn’t resign, she should be fired.” “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Flying teddy bears??? From OZ ??? Nuh-uh, don't be fooled!!!  ____________________ | |||
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I bet he has received a lot of Behavioral Health Treatment. Pa.'s new physician general brings an LGBT point of view  Levine, who has just been named Pennsylvania's physician general, spent most of her 57 years - at least outwardly - as a man. If the state Senate confirms her appointment, the doctor, who until a few years ago was known as Richard Levine, will become one of the nation's very few, openly transgender people in public office. When Gov. Wolf announced her on Jan. 17 as his choice for the cabinet post, he cited her expertise in pediatrics, psychiatry, and behavioral health. https://www.inquirer.com/phill...T_point_of_view.html _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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As a patient? "We're all travelers in this world. From the sweet grass to the packing house. Birth 'til death. We travel between the eternities." | |||
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I've given up being able to make the to keep up with this thread, although I do try to skim it every once in a while. I did a forum search and didn't see this opinion piece posted. The Worldwide Lockdown May be the Greatest Mistake in History Tue, May 5, 2020 Dennis Prager column The idea that the worldwide lockdown of virtually every country other than Sweden may have been an enormous mistake strikes many — including world leaders; most scientists, especially health officials, doctors and epidemiologists; those who work in major news media; opinion writers in those media; and the hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people who put their faith in these people — as so preposterous as to be immoral. Timothy Egan of The New York Times described Republicans who wish to enable their states to open up as “the party of death.” That’s the way it is today on planet Earth, where deceit, cowardice and immaturity now dominate almost all societies because the elites are deceitful, cowardly and immature. But for those open to reading thoughts they may differ with, here is the case for why the worldwide lockdown is not only a mistake but also, possibly, the worst mistake the world has ever made. And for those intellectually challenged by the English language and/or logic, “mistake” and “evil” are not synonyms. The lockdown is a mistake; the Holocaust, slavery, communism, fascism, etc., were evils. Massive mistakes are made by arrogant fools; massive evils are committed by evil people. The forcible prevention of Americans from doing anything except what politicians deem “essential” has led to the worst economy in American history since the Great Depression of the 1930s. It is panic and hysteria, not the coronavirus, that created this catastrophe. And the consequences in much of the world will be more horrible than in America. The United Nations World Food Programme, or the WFP, states that by the end of the year, more than 260 million people will face starvation — double last year’s figures. According to WFP director David Beasley on April 21: “We could be looking at famine in about three dozen countries. … There is also a real danger that more people could potentially die from the economic impact of COVID-19 than from the virus itself” (italics added). That would be enough to characterize the worldwide lockdown as a deathly error. But there is much more. If global GDP declines by 5%, another 147 million people could be plunged into extreme poverty, according to the International Food Policy Research Institute. Foreign Policy magazine reports that, according to the International Monetary Fund, the global economy will shrink by 3% in 2020, marking the biggest downturn since the Great Depression, and the U.S., the eurozone and Japan will contract by 5.9%, 7.5% and 5.2%, respectively. Meanwhile, across South Asia, as of a month ago, tens of millions were already “struggling to put food on the table.” Again, all because of the lockdowns, not the virus. In one particularly incomprehensible act, the government of India, a poor country of 1.3 billion people, locked down its people. As Quartz India reported on April 22, “Coronavirus has killed only around 700 Indians … a small number still compared to the 450,000 TB and 10,000-odd malaria deaths recorded every year.” One of the thousands of unpaid garment workers protesting the lockdown in Bangladesh understands the situation better than almost any health official in the world: “We are starving. If we don’t have food in our stomach, what’s the use of observing this lockdown?” But concern for that Bangladeshi worker among the world’s elites seems nonexistent. The lockdown is “possibly even more catastrophic (than the virus) in its outcome: the collapse of global food-supply systems and widespread human starvation” (italics added). That was published in the left-wing The Nation, which, nevertheless, enthusiastically supports lockdowns. But the American left cares as much about the millions of non-Americans reduced to hunger and starvation because of the lockdown as it does about the people of upstate New York who have no incomes, despite the minuscule number of coronavirus deaths there. Or about the citizens of Oregon, whose governor has just announced the state will remain locked down until July 6. As of this writing, a total of 109 people have died of the coronavirus in Oregon. An example of how disinterested the left is in worldwide suffering is made abundantly clear in a front-page “prayer” by a left-wing Christian in the current issue of The Nation: “May we who are merely inconvenienced remember those whose lives are at stake.” “Merely inconvenienced” is how the Rev. Dr. William J. Barber II, a Protestant minister and president of the North Carolina NAACP, describes the tens of millions of Americans rendered destitute, not to mention the hundreds of millions around the world rendered not only penniless but hungry. The truth is, like most of the elites, it is Barber who is “merely inconvenienced.” Indeed, the American battle today is between the merely inconvenienced and the rest of America. Michael Levitt, professor of structural biology at Stanford Medical School and winner of the 2013 Nobel Prize in chemistry, recently stated, “There is no doubt in my mind that when we come to look back on this, the damage done by lockdown will exceed any saving of lives by a huge factor.” To the left, anyone who questions the lockdown is driven by preference for money over lives. Typical of the left’s moral shallowness is this headline on Salon this week: “It’s Time To Reject the Gods of Commerce: America Is a Society, Not an ‘Economy,'” with the subhead reading, “America Is About People, Not Profit Margins.” And, of course, to smug editors and writers of The Atlantic, in article after repetitive article, the fault lies not with the lockdown but with President Donald Trump. The most popular article in The Atlantic this week is titled “The Rest of the World Is Laughing at Trump.” The elites can afford to laugh at whatever they want. 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That's the one that pulled their own mother out of a nursing home right before ordering nursing homes to take COVID patients. A firing would be appropriate, probably also sanctions. "If Gun Control worked, Chicago would look like Mayberry, not Thunderdome" - Cam Edwards | |||
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https://aatishb.com/covidtrend...rway&location=Sweden Compares Sweden, Norway and Finland. Topic is new cases in the last week compared to total cases in each country. https://aatishb.com/covidtrend...rway&location=Sweden Compares reported deaths in the last week compared to total cases in each country. Sweden doesn't look so good to me ... What makes folks think that Sweden is the place to be ? | |||
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