New York state issued a blanket do-not-resuscitate directive last week instructing first-responders not to try to revive patients without a pulse amid increased call volumes and lack of resources during the coronavirus public health crisis, according to a report.

Paramedics were previously told to attempt to resuscitate a patient found in cardiac arrest for up to 20 minutes, the New York Post reported.

The new order is “necessary during the COVID-19 response to protect the health and safety of EMS providers by limiting their exposure, conserve resources, and ensure optimal use of equipment to save the greatest number of lives,’’ according to a memo issued last week by the state Department of Health.

The memo insisted similar guidelines have been issued “in many areas of the U.S. as well as other locations throughout the world.”

“These changes are based on standards widely agreed upon by the physician leaders of EMS Regional Medical Control Systems across NYS and the Medical Standards Committee of the State Emergency Medical Services Advisory Council,” a health department spokesperson said in a statement.

This comes after the Regional Emergency Medical Services Council of New York, which oversees the city’s ambulance service, instructed paramedics last month not to bring patients whose hearts could not be restarted at the scene into hospitals already overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients. That directive meant first responders could still try to revive patients at the scene for up to 20 minutes.

“They’re not giving people a second chance to live anymore,’’ Oren Barzilay, the president of Local 2507, Uniformed EMT’s, Paramedics & Fire Inspectors Union, told the Post. “Our job is to bring patients back to life. This guideline takes that away from us.”

Only about three or four out of every 100 patients found at the scene without a pulse can be revived at hospitals through CPR, or other aggressive measures, such as drugs or hospitalization, an unidentified veteran FDNY paramedic told the newspaper.

New York state recorded at least 258,589 confirmed coronavirus cases, with at least 19,118 deaths by Wednesday morning, according to Johns Hopkins University.

As hospitals across the country face shortages of personal protective equipment due to surges of coronavirus patients, health care professionals were reportedly privately discussing the option of issues a blanket do-not-resuscitate order for infected patients, the Washington Post reported last month.

If hospitalized patients infected with the virus begin to go into cardiac arrest, doctors and nurses must first dress in full personal protective equipment before beginning CPR, meaning some patients might die in the interim. Some doctors issue do-not-resuscitate orders for COVID-19 patients on a case to case basis without families signing off but blanket measures for all patients infected with the virus were considered too draconian by ethics professionals in the medical community.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new...avirus-crisis-report

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New York state issued a blanket do-not-resuscitate directive last week instructing first-responders not to try to revive patients without a pulse amid increased call volumes and lack of resources during the coronavirus public health crisis, according to a report.

Another example of using tax payer money to fund a government service that they may or may not decide to provide at any given time.

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Paramedics were previously told to attempt to resuscitate a patient found in cardiac arrest for up to 20 minutes, the New York Post reported.

This will increase the total death toll. Although not from COVID, each is a direct result of the mismanagement of the healthcare system due to the virus.

Granted, it's hard to say whether any given patient will survive a full arrest. But not even having a chance is unconscionable and the opposite of EMS ALS philosophy

True, and also true...

Add white to the first tweet, and it'd be doubly true.

Attorney General Barr is threatening possible legal action....That is good, but I would argue that they have already gone to far.(especially Michigan) Below was quoted from the article...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...0ie0?ocid=spartanntp
Bill Barr, in a new interview on Tuesday, characterized some state "stay-at-home" restrictions amid the pandemic as "disturbingly close to house arrest" and said the Justice Department will consider legal action if governors start to take restrictions on movement and civil liberties "too far."

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Originally posted by 46and2:
His credibility is shit, now.

Why?

Because it's obvious that no one does or could love Hillary Clinton.

Yeah, fun to see these emails / discussion about him burble up again - they were discussed in depth about 50-100 pages ago.

Missouri attorney general sues China over pandemic, blaming it for ‘trillions of dollars of losses’

Missouri’s attorney general filed a lawsuit against the Chinese government on Tuesday, claiming that Beijing’s denials and cover-ups led to the coronavirus becoming a pandemic that has caused “trillions of dollars” in economic damage.

The lawsuit, filed in the US District Court for Eastern Missouri, alleges that Chinese officials denied the risk of human-to-human transmission, silenced whistle-blowers and failed to contain the outbreak, allowing the contagion to spread globally.

Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican, said he was seeking “recovery for the enormous loss of life, human suffering and economic turmoil experienced by all Missourians from the Covid-19 pandemic that has disrupted the entire world”.

“An appalling campaign of deceit, concealment, misfeasance and inaction by Chinese authorities unleashed this pandemic,” said the complaint, which did not specify the amount of damages sought.

Where did Doc H go? Its been a while since he posted anything and I miss the info he provided.

Trump shamed them into giving the money back. Good.

Harvard won't 'seek or accept' federal stimulus money after calls from Trump to return cash

Harvard University announced in a statement Wednesday that it will no longer "seek or accept" aid from the CARES Act Higher Education Emergency Relief Fund, one day after President Trump demanded the Ivy League school return federal relief cash.

https://www.foxnews.com/politi...trump-to-return-cash

Michigan posted its highest single day death toll the other day of 232.

However.... 95 of those were death certificates from previous day's that were updated with Covid as the COD and added to this days death statistics.

Makes you wonder if they're doing that with the + test data too.

Must be removed, NOW!!!

Tucker Carlson: Here's why Whitmer wants Michigan residents quiet and subservient during coronavirus crisis

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New York state issued a blanket do-not-resuscitate directive last week instructing first-responders not to try to revive patients without a pulse amid increased call volumes and lack of resources during the coronavirus public health crisis, according to a report.

Ooops

New York state rescinds DNR order for cardiac patients amid coronavirus crisis


https://www.foxnews.com/us/new...avirus-crisis-report

Aren't they all cardiac patients at that point?

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I walk my dogs every day and I also spent a decent amount of time outside doing outdoor activities. It is amazing these past few weeks how I’ve seen people I never saw previously outside walking their dog or riding a bicycle or walking/running. It’s like people discovered there’s other shit to do other than stay inside and watch TV.

Same here. With all the gyms shut down, people have actually walking in their own neighborhood is actually an option. I've tried my best to chat with as many people as possible hoping may this neighborhood thing might continue after all the BS subsides.

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However.... 95 of those were death certificates from previous day's that were updated with Covid as the COD and added to this days death statistics.

Makes you wonder if they're doing that with the + test data too.

I've had issues with the data collection for a while now, but what we've seen of late with people being moved to the Covid category while whole other categories of disease deaths have fallen to near zero and blanket decisions on how to classify Covid deaths (that make virtually no sense) being
put in place have rendered the data being collected little more than garbage. The politicos, the medical experts, and the media are clearly in CYA mode given how spectacularly wrong they've been to date and how much damage 'they' have caused, so I'd treat any new stats from this point forward as highly questionable.

In the nightly body count report on the Yooper news, they mentioned that the C-19 death figures were being "adjusted" after examining death certificates. How far back in time are they reviewing the death certificates? 1962?
The main danger from this virus? The lies surrounding it.

Walz in Minnesota just set the state up for another three weeks extension beyond May 4th. He just hasn't made the official announcement yet.
Apparently they have figured out how to test 20,000 Minnesotans a day but it's going to take two to three weeks to roll out this testing. He didn't come out and say it but it's clear the take away they wanted you take from this so called press conference was the two to three week time frame.

That's when we can maybe just maybe begin to THINK about how to reopen the states economy again. This will give people time to digest the idea before the May 4th deadline so when he announces the extension it will already have been a foregone conclusion by most people.
We don't deserve to be told what he already knows.

Everything is a game of words and numbers and giving out some information while holding other information. The real games are going to begin when down the road the states are going to figure out new ways to recoup all the lost state revenues while they shut down their own economies.

Meanwhile, Sweden gambled that it would be better in the long run to not lock the country down, but just deal with it as it occurred. The benefit of that is that Sweden will likely develop herd immunity throughout the entire country-- and so will not have to worry about a "second wave" or any other wave, ever again.

The Swedes think their gamble is paying off-- their hospitals are not overwhelmed and they have extra bed space and ICU berths. And keeping hospitals from being overwhelmed -- "flattening the curve" -- is the entire point of a lockdown.

And they say their curve is pretty flat with minimum social distancing (no lockdowns, more just like common sense and self-limiting trips to the store and bar).

The Swedish experiment looks like it’s paying off
https://www.spectator.co.uk/ar...like-it-s-paying-off

The writer of the story linked above writes:

A journalist from French television that I talked to on Sunday admitted, somewhat sheepishly, that 'it's almost as if we want Sweden to fail because then we would know it is you and not us that there is something wrong with'.

Indeed. And it seems exactly that way in the US as well. The liberals and their Renfields the NeverTrumpers have demanded we shut down the country -- only with the secondary purpose of "flattening the curve;" the primary purpose was flattening Trump's economy -- and so we have.

And yet it just may be that Sweden proves this to have been an unnecessary bit of economic suicide.

I was just thinking that there are gong to be unintended consequences for these liberal states and their extended shutdowns. One of those is companies that were teetering on the edge of leaving those states, this will push them over the edge and they’ll be making plans to GTFO.

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Walz in Minnesota just set the state up for another three weeks extension beyond May 4th. He just hasn't made the official announcement yet.

I just watched it and think you're right. The ramped up testing is a good thing, but we aren't going to have any effect for several weeks after that. Walz is determined to be an outlier among all the states in terms of strategy. I'm sure every governor thinks they will be. Time will tell who's right, but the price could be high for being wrong. Either way.