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Originally posted by r0gue:
My assumption is it will be cheap surgical masks to keep our fingers out of our face.

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I think Trump is really frozen in place on this one.

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Originally posted by zipriderson:
Corona virus got Ellis Marsalis. A true jazz legend. RIP.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01...ronavirus/index.html

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I just don't know how we keep this up.

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Originally posted by holdem:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I just don't know how we keep this up.

We cannot, it is impossible.

There is a choice to be made. Either fight the COVID-19 fight and head into The Great Depression II.

Or sacrifice some / many patients to COVID-19 in order to sustain the American economy and not bankrupt the entire nation.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

Is there a door 3?

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Originally posted by holdem:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I just don't know how we keep this up.

We cannot, it is impossible.

There is a choice to be made. Either fight the COVID-19 fight and head into The Great Depression II.

Or sacrifice some / many patients to COVID-19 in order to sustain the American economy and not bankrupt the entire nation.

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Originally posted by 46and2:

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Originally posted by zipriderson:
Corona virus got Ellis Marsalis. A true jazz legend. RIP.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01...ronavirus/index.html

Sad. Such a prolific family.

I've seen he, Branford, and Wynton different times over the years.

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Big Point #2 – At What Cost?

If we are truly only on lockdown for the next two weeks, it’s probably a cost we are all willing to bear. But I have some bad news for you – it won’t be two weeks. Not with the current psychology of this disease. We are starting with just two weeks because it makes it easier to accept. It’s comfortable. They’re keeping us calm. Easing us into it. The next announcement is coming. Two weeks will become four weeks. A month will become three months. This could drag on the rest of the year.

The minute we lift quarantine measures, the second wave begins. Eventually the third wave. Or a fourth.

China is just now trying to emerge from a lockdown of more than two months. That puts our exit around June 1. I don’t think we can enforce a full lockdown as successfully as China can. And that assumes no setbacks. What if China has a second wave while we are in the middle of our quarantine? Are we really going to lift ours in the midst of their next wave?

This leads to an exceptionally uncomfortable cost/benefit analysis. How much economic value are we willing to lose to save a human life?

If the mortality rate was 50% and 165mm Americans would die from this virus, I suspect we would be willing to live under strict quarantine for quite some time. We’d be willing to endure a total economic collapse because we don’t like the prospect of losing half our family.

If the mortality rate is 1%, that’s 3.3mm Americans. That’s different.

And that assumes 100% of us get it. Which we won’t. Even without a quarantine. Because that’s not how viruses work. There is no precedent for an influenza virus spreading to 100% of the population. Ever.

Yeah, I’m willing to endure some economic hardship to avoid losing 3mm Americans. But how much? And how does my calculus change over time? That’s really uncomfortable to think about.

Everyone was all about doing their part to flatten the curve when it meant working from home and doing teleconferencing.

But now that they might lose their job? Tunes will change. Quickly.

If 2.5 million Americans lost their job last week like Goldman Sachs is forecasting, does that change our approach to flattening the curve? If the economy contracts by 25% in Q2, are we still willing to live under quarantine indefinitely?

Instead of 3mm Americans dying, what if it’s really more like 1mm? Or less? Heart disease kills 650k Americans each year – what if coronavirus kills that many instead? Would we accept a Great Depression in order to save them? If so, why haven’t we done so before now?

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We now have 2000 people unemployed for every 1 death related to coronavirus.

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Originally posted by 6guns:

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We now have 2000 people unemployed for every 1 death related to coronavirus.

Curious, do you have a link for that stat?

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Originally posted by chellim1:
April 2, 2020
China Is Preparing to Start a War with America
By William L. Gensert

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:

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Originally posted by 46and2:

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Originally posted by zipriderson:
Corona virus got Ellis Marsalis. A true jazz legend. RIP.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01...ronavirus/index.html

Sad. Such a prolific family.

I've seen he, Branford, and Wynton different times over the years.

Sad indeed just as any death from anything is. One thing I've noticed about these celebrity deaths is the reporting states they died of the complications from the Corona virus and the rest of the report is just a eulogy. No information on when the person was hospitalized and for what? Had that person been battling poor health recently? Pre existing health conditions that were added to by the virus and that became the tipping point?

Same thing with the Joe Diffie death earlier this week. Someone on the board here said he had been battling poor health for sometime. I searched for quite sometime and could not find anything recent or in the past that indicated that. I could not find when he was admitted to the hospital, how long he had been treated or how long from diagnosis of the covid until his death.

You came away thinking he was a perfectly healthy 61 year old who contracted the virus and died from it. But they don't exactly say that either.

Sometimes the more important thing is what they are not telling you.

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If they really intend take us down more than a few pegs, an EMP attack might be the modern Pearl Harbor.