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San Francisco order bans reusable bags from grocery stores in effort to fight coronavirus. Plastic bags are back in style, I wonder when border security become in vogue again? Maybe when granny has her ventilator removed to provide oxygen to an illegal alien? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| 7.62mm Crusader |
When we do return to normal again, one thing will have remained unchanged through all this, the extremely attractive ladies will still have their force field turned on. Only the vibrant and wealthy can break their force field. The cute ladies will allow their force fields to be broken more often, as is quite normal. The not very nice looking ladies will have discarded their force fields out of desperation to hook up with anyone..  | |||
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This " complications from covid" shit is way more than a little vague. And i.m.o. wearing nano thin. Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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We cannot, it is impossible. There is a choice to be made. Either fight the COVID-19 fight and head into The Great Depression II. Or sacrifice some / many patients to COVID-19 in order to sustain the American economy and not bankrupt the entire nation. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
Is there a door 3? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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I wish. I cannot see one. Do you? | |||
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Correct. We now have 2000 people unemployed for every 1 death related to coronavirus. Another month of being shutdown, and we could be facing another 5 million? 10 million? 20? The ramifications are hard to predict, but it won't be good. Suffice to say I'm not envious of the position that Trump or any Governor is in at this point. Considering most deaths are patients above their life expectancy, well, I would opt to sacrifice personally. But that would be political suicide and we are run by politicians who have no desire to end their careers. | |||
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Sad indeed just as any death from anything is. One thing I've noticed about these celebrity deaths is the reporting states they died of the complications from the Corona virus and the rest of the report is just a eulogy. No information on when the person was hospitalized and for what? Had that person been battling poor health recently? Pre existing health conditions that were added to by the virus and that became the tipping point? Same thing with the Joe Diffie death earlier this week. Someone on the board here said he had been battling poor health for sometime. I searched for quite sometime and could not find anything recent or in the past that indicated that. I could not find when he was admitted to the hospital, how long he had been treated or how long from diagnosis of the covid until his death. You came away thinking he was a perfectly healthy 61 year old who contracted the virus and died from it. But they don't exactly say that either. Sometimes the more important thing is what they are not telling you. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
A pretty sobering article here, I think this is the gist of it though:  Why Flattening The Curve Is Overrated
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| Partial dichotomy |
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| Ammoholic |
3.3m last week, 6.6m this week. 9,900,000/5,161 = 1918 jobs per death. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02...ronavirus/index.html https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| 10mm is The Boom of Doom  |
This is my conclusion as well. I hope Trump/Pentagon realize this and are preparing. Yesterday's presser was I think designed to signal that the US is capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. The time to kick a man is when he's down. It is possible they could hit a few navy ships, but that leaves us with a lot of capacity to respond. If they really intend take us down more than a few pegs, an EMP attack might be the modern Pearl Harbor. The question is how do we (as individuals) prepare for a possible impending war with China? EMP or not. God Bless and Protect the Once and Future President, Donald John Trump. | |||
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The media will always, and always has, lied to us. They have an agenda in all this and they will not mention at all that a victim had health problems to begin with in order to sensationalize the deaths as much as possible. On the other hand, if a victim was not known to have an underlying problem they will headline that news when reporting. I truly despise every single member of the news media for their bias and dishonesty. | |||
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Then Bejing and Hong Kong quickly become the next Hiroshima and Nagasaki would be my guess. Don't think Trump is in the mood to exchange military barbs with China right now. "Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton | |||
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| Freethinker |
If we go to war with China we’d better hope we have an ass left to wipe when it’s over and not be worrying what we will wipe it with. The consequences of even a limited nuclear exchange would be beyond what most people can imagine. We can only hope that the Chinese leadership is smarter than anyone here who thinks that war would be a good idea. ► 6.4/93.6 “ Enlightenment is man’s emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one’s own understanding without another’s guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one’s own mind without another’s guidance.” — Immanuel Kant | |||
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Just saw a democommie TV ad, blaming Trump for this covid flu. What the fuck. | |||
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Coronavirus can spread through talking or breathing, scientists warn White House https://www.washingtonexaminer...sts-warn-white-house Coughing and sneezing may not be the only way to spread the coronavirus through the air, according to a scientific panel. New research presented to the White House on Wednesday suggests the novel coronavirus can spread through the act of one person speaking to another in close quarters or even breathing. The findings were reported after news that state-mandated mask guidelines are being discussed by the Centers for Disease Controls and Prevention which would instruct U.S. citizens to wear protective equipment as a "new normal" in everyday life. "This letter responds to your question concerning the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread by conversation, in addition to sneeze/cough-induced droplets," Dr. Harvey Fineberg, a former dean of the Harvard School of Public Health, wrote in a letter sent to the White House on Tuesday. "Currently available research supports the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread via bioaerosols generated directly by patients' exhalation." "While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," Fineberg added. Fineberg told CNN he would begin to wear a face mask, which can be made of plain cloth in place of professional material, when he leaves his home to go grocery shopping. Although the CDC has claimed that air droplets exhaled from persons only carry 6 feet, findings by an MIT researcher suggest the virus can travel as far as 27 feet, and a recent study from the National Institutes of Health’s Rocky Mountain Laboratories claimed the virus can remain airborne "for hours." "If you generate an aerosol of the virus with no circulation in a room, it's conceivable that if you walk through later, you could inhale the virus," Fineberg said. "But if you're outside, the breeze will likely disperse it." _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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| Donate Blood, Save a Life!  |
We wouldn't nuke cities unless there's an all out attack on us. If they do a limited targeted attack on one or more of our ships, our response will probably be to destroy every man-made island in the South China Sea since they are military zones. We've objected to them repeatedly and have continued to sail our ships through the area to negate their expanded territorial claim. *** "Aut viam inveniam aut faciam (I will either find a way or make one)." -- Hannibal Barca | |||
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| Run Silent Run Deep  |
China start a war? Why? For what reason Land?...they have plenty Power?...they have plenty of that too. Ideology?...maybe, but I think they are quite happy with their mix of communism/capitalism. No... no giant world wars any time soon. The wars to be fought will be economic and through cyber. _____________________________ Pledge allegiance or pack your bag! The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher Spread my work ethic, not my wealth | |||
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Employ reasonable hygiene, keep hands away from face, possibly drop the handshake? Sick people, who know they're sick, stay home, rather than going about spreading diseases? The same things that would prevent perhaps millions of sicknesses and thousands of deaths every year, even absent SARS-CoV-2? Perhaps masking-up during the height of a "disease season?" (Though there seems to be some question as to the efficacy of that.) I fairly certain I've mentioned the above at least a couple times in the course of my prolificity. As well as cited numerous examples of my observations of people not doing those things now and for as long as I've been paying attention.
I've never said, never so much as suggested, such a thing as a "health Gestapo." You should know better than to try a straw man with me. What I'm talking about, what I've talked about before, is people exhibiting a bit of good judgement and consideration for others.
Again: I've no idea what you're on about. I have been clear, lucidly clear, from Day 1, in my opinion that if people practiced reasonable hygiene and kept themselves out of the public when sick, there'd be a lot less need for all this enforced social distancing when a pandemic like we currently have hits. It's the exact same argument I make in the annual "flu shot" thread and why my wife and I have found we can do without them.
Another straw man. As I've stated numerous times: It's not about deaths. It's about preventing our health care system being overwhelmed by an extreme, rapid spike in Covid-19 cases.
I have no idea what this has to do with anything. Are you well? This seems unlike you.
Precisely the point I made in answer to Rightwire. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure this one out. Doesn't necessarily have to be this way, but it probably will. Unless people learn to change their ways. The citizens of Hong Kong get it: Hong Kong Shutdown a Lesson to the World in Halting Virus Note the "social pressure" aspect. ETA: Another example, like I've done before. One of my best friends has a large family. My wife and I are considered to be part of the family. They have regular gatherings, to which we're nearly always invited. Problem is: At nearly every one of those gatherings somebody shows up sick. If not an adult, then one or more of the hordes of children. This is why we recently skipped that best friend's birthday party. Somebody please explain to me why it's socially acceptable to show up at such gatherings sick? Where you're almost certainly going to spread your disease germs, causing other attendees to fall sick? I do not understand it. Never have. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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