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"Not even the coronavirus pandemic can keep Ruth Bader Ginsburg from the bench — the one at her gym that is.

The 87-year-old Supreme Court justice is continuing with her workout routine, even as many gyms across the country have been shuttered to curb the outbreak, her personal trainer said.

“Everybody’s been shut down. The only reason why I didn’t shut the justice down is because, hey, she ain’t having it,” Bryant Johnson, told Law360 on Tuesday.

“She has that grandfather status to me and if she wants to train, that’s the least that I can do,” Johnson added. "

https://nypost.com/2020/03/31/...-ginsburgs-workouts/


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Massachusetts governor Baker has excluded gun stores from the list of essential businesses. Some gun stores are refusing to close. Things could get interesting here.




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Tobacco plant based vaccines have been around since 1989. Some of your canine vaccines are tobacco plant based . So it is a real possibility when joined with recombination.
 
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Is there any legal basis for governors shutting down the state? Restricting/prohibiting travel?

Seems to me they're WAY overstepping their bounds.




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That's now a fact here in Australia, with the Government declaration that firearms and ammunition sales to the public are 'non-essential'.
Exception if you are LEO or security.

Understandably, thousands of licensed firearm owners - farmers, hunters, rural landholders and sporting/club shooters - are not at all happy about this political decision.

The Sporting Shooters Association of Australia (I am a member) are not taking this bigotry lying down.

Now before many of you jump and down, with statements "it's unconstitutional and you have rights", Australia's constitution is not at all the same as the US, and there are no Amendment rights. Just.don't.go.there.

From the Melbourne Gun Emporium:

Gun Emporium

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Dear Valued Customer

Due to a Government direction, we are not permitted to sell firearms or ammunition to recreational/ sport/ target shooters, our suppliers are also being affected by this. We anticipate a shortage of all sorts of gear over the next few weeks/ months. Please bear with us while we try to sort out this mess.

As always we value our customers and look forward to putting these current restrictions behind us.

Thankyou.
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Again, my opinion here, further reflecting on the constant changes with COVID-19.

Be safe, be strong.

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It's April fools remember



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It is weird Fauci says one thing in the briefs with the President. But publishes in the New England Journal of Medicine that it will look just like the mortality rate of the flu.

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This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2


https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/...EJMe2002387?query=RP


Despite the date shown on that page, that was published in late February. I posted about it in this thread then. If you look at the page view metrics, it has page views more than 30 days ago. https://www.nejm.org/doi/metrics/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

At the time, the fatality rate was being widely reported as 2-3%, sometimes worse.

The linked paper doesn't say the fatality rate WAS 0.1%. It was suggesting that because of undertesting, the fatality rate was likely significantly less than 2-3%, and closer to the 0.1% of a severe seasonal flu than to the MUCH higher fatality rates of SARS and MERS (which is true).

A disease as transmissible as COVID-19 and as deadly as SARS or MERS could be catastrophic.


It was thought that with expanded testing that Italy’s mortality rate would drop. The opposite has happened. It was 8%. It’s now 11%. We all know that’s not the real mortality rate, but they expected it to go down, not up.

Keep in mind that the early projections for this virus, including Dr. Fauci's in the NEJM, were based on analysis of the numbers coming out of China which had the only statistically significant infected population at the time. We now know that those numbers were staggeringly wrong. Criminally wrong. His analysis was probably correct based on the data he had. But as he himself said about modeling the other day, "garbage in, garbage out". And the Chinese data is worse than garbage.


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Seeing a ALOT of anger directed toward China on social media today.


Quite right, as long as it is directed at the government.

Can't be emphasized enough. Unfortunately, there's a fair number of idiots, unable to make that distinction.

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A pretty amazing mitzvah: Medtronic is giving away rights and manufacturing details of their ventilators for free to potential competitors.

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Ventilator manufactor Medtronic gives away patents to its competitors
Medtronic CEO Yaron Yitzhari: 'The financial impact isn't what counts - the main thing is to save lives.'

Medtronic, the world’s largest manufacturer of medical equipment, is currently receiving large amounts of attention for its ventilator. This week, the CEO of the company's Israel division, Yaron Yitzhari, made the decision to release all of Medtronic’s patents for the production of ventilators, in order to enable any company wishing to manufacture them to use Medtronic’s blueprints, for free.

Arutz Sheva spoke with CEO Yitzhari, asking him about his decision and the possible repercussions for the company.

“We didn’t just release the patents,” he clarifies. “We’ve made available all the details of the manufacturing process, for anyone who’s interested in manufacturing ventilators himself.”

Wasn’t he concerned about the potential loss of profit for his company, almost certain to run to the millions of dollars?

“In the present situation, I’m proud to work at Medtronic,” he replies. “Our goal is to prolong lives – to save lives, in fact. This is what’s needed right now, in the emergency situation we’re in, and this consideration comes before everything else. These are unusual times, and they demand of us to act in unusual ways. So, when it comes to calculating the financial impact, it has negligible weight, because the main thing is saving lives, and that’s what our company knows how to do.”

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British Cigarette company develops a vaccine

In short, British American Tobacco claims they have a workable vaccine ready to go, and can produce upwards of 3 MILLION doses per week.


So a cigarette company, British American Tobacco (BAT) comes up with the vaccine to kill a virus that originated in a bat and destroys the lungs.....I am not sure you could make that up!

That is printed in a British paper on April 1. It's a joke. They do that.



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British Cigarette company develops a vaccine

In short, British American Tobacco claims they have a workable vaccine ready to go, and can produce upwards of 3 MILLION doses per week.


So a cigarette company, British American Tobacco (BAT) comes up with the vaccine to kill a virus that originated in a bat and destroys the lungs.....I am not sure you could make that up!

That is printed in a British paper on April 1. It's a joke. They do that.



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Yeah, but without the April Fool's part.



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While holding the Chinese government responsible for how they reacted to this is to be expected, I think that China has another problem: Cultural ignorance.
I base that on my experience of dealing with the several Chinese restaurants that were on my beat. I would routinely find myself in the kitchens of these places and they were disgustingly filthy. All them were and our Health Dept. would shut them down until they cleaned up. At least one family had a half million dollar home in an upscale area that had 20 people living it. Many of the "residents" were there under a type of indentured servitude and did not speak any English. The Feds eventually raided the house and shut it down. The other Asian style restaurants in the town were dirty, too, but not at the level the Chinese places were. When I tried to dissuade my buddies from eating in these places, they ignored me and said well, thats just how they do things!
Awhile back were discussing what country represented the greatest external threat to the US. I said it was Mexico. Lots of guys said China. I stand corrected. You guys were right!


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Massachusetts governor Baker has excluded gun stores from the list of essential businesses. Some gun stores are refusing to close. Things could get interesting here.


I thought President Trump declared them essential nationally.


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Good on Medtronic! This is the kind of effort we need. Hopefully,people remember the companies and countries that stepped up!!!
 
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Massachusetts governor Baker has excluded gun stores from the list of essential businesses. Some gun stores are refusing to close. Things could get interesting here.


I thought President Trump declared them essential nationally.


They were added to the CISA's updated guidance list. To my knowledge, the list is advisory and not binding on the states. Many states are utilizing it because it is easy to reference.

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/def...sion_2.0_Updated.pdf
 
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PSA: during these trying times, be less like Fred and more like Lamont...

 
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I thought President Trump declared them essential nationally.


That was my understanding as well.



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Massachusetts governor Baker has excluded gun stores from the list of essential businesses. Some gun stores are refusing to close. Things could get interesting here.


I thought President Trump declared them essential nationally.


They were added to the CISA's updated guidance list. To my knowledge, the list is advisory and not binding on the states. Many states are utilizing it because it is easy to reference.

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/def...sion_2.0_Updated.pdf


Yeah the fed doesn’t trump state rights. That being said I don’t know what law in Massachusetts gives this power to the governor. I haven’t found any info on it.




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A pretty amazing mitzvah: Medtronic is giving away rights and manufacturing details of their ventilators for free to potential competitors.


Yea, awesome Roll Eyes I just bought stock in Medtronic last year... and now they are giving their tech away Roll Eyes

But... I also bought Abbott Labs (a Jim Cramer pick) just last fall because I didn't have much in the medical sector but didn't want any pharmaceuticals due to all the huge lawsuits going around. So I went with some medical equipment mfgs. Abbot makes the 10 min corona virus test just approved, and is already shipping, that has been in the news this week. They are making 50k test a day now and ramping up very soon to 150 a day.

Gonna be rich I tells ya! Any. Day. Now. Yep! Annnnny daaaay now... Big Grin



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While holding the Chinese government responsible for how they reacted to this is to be expected, I think that China has another problem: Cultural ignorance.
I base that on my experience of dealing with the several Chinese restaurants that were on my beat. I would routinely find myself in the kitchens of these places and they were disgustingly filthy. All them were and our Health Dept. would shut them down until they cleaned up. At least one family had a half million dollar home in an upscale area that had 20 people living it. Many of the "residents" were there under a type of indentured servitude and did not speak any English. The Feds eventually raided the house and shut it down. The other Asian style restaurants in the town were dirty, too, but not at the level the Chinese places were. When I tried to dissuade my buddies from eating in these places, they ignored me and said well, thats just how they do things!
Awhile back were discussing what country represented the greatest external threat to the US. I said it was Mexico. Lots of guys said China. I stand corrected. You guys were right!

The Communist party over the last 70-years has shattered the Chinese culture that existed, resulting in a populace that has little social under-pinnings other than ancestral worship and survival. How many of their own citizens have they killed or, allowed to die since they've been in power, 100 million plus?

In support of your position, when immigrating to another country, willful ignorance is no excuse, particularly when it comes to laws but, probably more importantly, assimilating and getting along with the local standards and mores. If you're getting repeat visits by the Dept of Health, you're doing it wrong.
 
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