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Ammoholic |
There is. Well said Para. The 'debate' has gotten a bit toxic. Remember guys we are here together in the same boat. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Do---or do not. There is no try. |
If you can’t find TP, your favorite color is brown... | |||
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Ignored facts still exist |
What, are they rolling back 100 years when the 18th amendment was in force? . | |||
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Go Vols! |
I hope everyone can stop and think of what they would do for their own loved ones to save their life. It’s not that a lot of people are going to get sick from this virus. It’s that significant number are going to get extremely sick and need professional care. This is going to take up medical resources that are already needed. Hospitals are treating people every day. They are not simply on stand by using a small percentage of their capacity. The current fight is to keep that capacity from being drastically exceeded. It is not just for people infected with the virus that the drastic measures are being taken for, but all critically ill patients to come. While your kid may not be seriously affected by the virus, if your child gets appendicitis, he is going to need an OR and care facilities to keep the infection from taking his/her life. That may not be available. If your significant other gets a blood clot or PE, they may have a small window of time to get the care they need. If treated last year, they may fully recover. If demand on care facilities spikes and they are waiting in the ER for a bed due to demand exceeding capacity, they may be dead before one comes available. If this gets too far out of hand, it will not be simply some that get the virus will die while most will not. It will be people with a variety of critical needs could not get life saving care they need because the resources just were not available or available in time. That is why all the proactive steps are being taken. The measures taken may not all be effective. No one knows exactly what will come of all of this. It may be more than enough, just enough, or not enough. You try and you learn. In the end, we are all hoping it saves lives. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Thanks, Para. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Lost |
San Francisco just went shelter-in-place. All other bay area counties are expected to issue SIP orders as well. SF Gate | |||
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Still finding my way |
Told the wife about the possibility of shutting down alcohol sales. She's currently setting a new land speed record in her Honda on the way to the beer barn. | |||
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Fortified with Sleestak |
Shelter in place and enjoy your DTs. I have the heart of a lion.......and a lifetime ban from the Toronto Zoo.- Unknown | |||
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Something wild is loose |
As far as viral mutations in general and this one in specific. RNA viruses mutate at faster rates than DNA viruses. DNA viruses are sort of "self-correcting" when they duplicate themselves (the only thing really that a virus does). With two strands of nucleotides (double helix anyone?), the virus "compares" the copy with the identical helix strands and "fixes" the copy if necessary to ensure a true copy (over simplified, but practically true - and slower) normal human cells do this, so they don't copy mistakes (many neoplasms or cancers are bad copies of normal cells gone wild). With an RNA virus, it has only one strand to copy, and has no correct copy to "compare" if the new copy is slightly off (a mutation), so produces more "incorrect" copies - thousands of them in one invaded cell. Lots of things cause errors in copying, and are random. Sometimes the "incorrect" copy is more successful at invading and replicating, sometimes less. The less successful copies don't produce as many viruses - can't attach to a cell wall, can't make duplicates, can't keep its structure together; the more successful "incorrect" copies produce more viruses, so can become the predominate "strain." So far, SARS-CoV-2 (with about 30,000 nucleotides in its strand) has produced (we think) at least three mutations. The first was the unknown mutation that allowed it to cross from an animal reservoir into humans. We could call that "X" (my designation). It immediately mutated into the more recognized, infective strain now known as the "S" strain, the most common strain found today. Sometime between December and January, a new "L" strain appeared, with a higher lethality, but apparently less transmissible, because it's now in the minority. And the above is disputed by some researchers as artifact, because a virus is, well, really small and hard to study, and dicing out their individual parts is, how do you say, challenging). The vast majority of mutations are either lethal to the virus or of no use, the good news. The bad news, there are a lot if them. That's our current status, and it becomes important in vaccine development and because you obviously want to develop an effective immunity against the right "strain" of virus, the problem with seasonal flu vaccines, since a vaccine effective against one strain might not be (as) effective against another. But we're getting there, and an effective vaccine is really the firewall that we'll depend on finally to stop this bug. "And gentlemen in England now abed, shall think themselves accursed they were not here, and hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks that fought with us upon Saint Crispin's Day" | |||
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Amen. And you are absolutely right to compare this to war. I hadn't thought of it that way, but it is definitely a war. The enemy can't be seen with the naked eye, but it is a real and deadly enemy. . | |||
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Go ahead punk, make my day |
It just exposes that there are a lot of simpletons out there. Food magically arrives at the supermarket, drugs at the pharmacy, and gas at the gas station. Just like Amazon, you click to buy and it magically shows up with no effort on the buyers part, but there is a huge chain of production, storage, and shipment to make that all happen.
Again, just goes to the simpleton mentality. The "rich" have plenty of money to pay out. Never mind this was exposed last week when the "Bloomberg could have paid everyone $1 Million dollars with his Presidential campaign money", when in reality even if he cashed out his $60 Billion and gave it away, each of the 325 Million Americans would get a whopping $184.61. Yes, only one hundred and eighty-four dollars and change per person. Now have them do the math to give everyone $1000 per month. That is 325 BILLION Dollars. $325,000,000,000.00 The ignorance is mind-numbing sometimes. Never more so in a 'panic'. | |||
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In a year from now, it will be interesting to look back on this thread from beginning to end. Year V | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Well, hello, SIGforum 2021. this is yours truly in 2020, saying that most of this was unnecessary, and that's the saddest part of all. | |||
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Ammoholic |
1point3acres is reporting 4552 cases as of 15:02 PDT. | |||
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Member |
This will go well! "Pennsylvania closes all state liquor stores indefinitely" __________________________________________________ If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit! Sigs Owned - A Bunch | |||
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Still finding my way |
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W07VH5 |
The wife's brother is getting married for the fifth time. We got cajoled into attending. We got some non-refundable hotel reservations. She got a text today that the wedding and reception are cancelled due to the state mandating no gatherings of more than 20 people. | |||
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thin skin can't win |
hmmmmm, what went wrong here? You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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Well I went out and got chinese take out this weekend. Great stuff and had leftovers! Not sure where this fits in with everything, but just wanted to spin some positive. You all take care. I hope you can all avoid the nuts. Take care of eachother.... ___________________________________Sigforum - port in the fake news storm.____________Be kind to the Homeless. A lot of us are one bad decision away from there. | |||
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W07VH5 |
From the beginning? Everything. | |||
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