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For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would even know he or she has covid today. Why the hell are people still bothering to test for this?


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For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would even know he or she has covid today. Why the hell are people still bothering to test for this?

My son got sick, went to the doctor, they tested for strep and covid. He had covid.
I'm pretty sure I got a mild case of it too, but I didn't go the doctor or test. Big Grin



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Of course it's going to make a comeback, it's now a part of seasonal flu season the election cycle...
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would even know he or she has covid today. Why the hell are people still bothering to test for this?
Y'got me hangin'. Last time my wife and I got sick, last Christmas/New Years, we didn't bother. If it came up in conversation I called it "coldvidflumonia"



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The Army is Begging Unvaccinated Soldiers to Return

Army forced to reverse course, as people refuse to enlist

https://www.igor-chudov.com/p/...ftr&utm_medium=email



Just two years ago, in a shameful campaign, the Pentagon was gleefully discharging soldiers who refused to take Covid vaccines.

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Ok so I have to ask… why do they have to request to have their record changed why don’t they reverse all records of personel who were let go for refusing the jab to read honorable discharge?


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Ok so I have to ask… why do they have to request to have their record changed why don’t they reverse all records to read honorable discharge?

Right. It should be automatic. And the Medal of Honor for standing up to tyranny.

The Medal of Honor (MOH) is the United States Armed Forces' highest military decoration and is awarded to recognize American soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, guardians and coast guardsmen who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Another major study shows the mRNAs raise the risk of coronavirus infection

The study, from Italian researchers, also contained very disturbing news for people who have taken three or more Moderna jabs.

People who received at least one Covid jab were about 30 percent more likely to be infected with Sars-Cov-2 than the unvaccinated, Italian researchers report.

The Italian study is the most comprehensive yet to show Covid shots raise the risk of infection. After the Omicron variant appeared, the shots performed even worse, with the jabbed at about 50 percent higher risk.

The peer-reviewed study also contained a surprising and frightening finding for people who have taken three or more Moderna mRNA jabs. Moderna-only recipients were 71 percent more likely to die from all causes than people who took only Pfizer jabs, a significant difference even after the researchers adjusted for age and medical problems.

Moderna’s jabs contain much more mRNA than Pfizer’s, so the finding highlights the question whether higher exposure to mRNA may drive deaths - and whether repeated shots increase that risk.

https://alexberenson.substack....7n3&utm_medium=email



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Of course it's going to make a comeback, it's now a part of seasonal flu season...


Oh, the 4 year Election Flu.




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The Army is Begging Unvaccinated Soldiers to Return


(applicable lyrics from a Craig Carothers song)

Sad and sorry here you stand,
Suitcase and humble pie in hand.
Guess you had a change of plan.

Surprise, surprise!

I still recall your fare-thee-well,
When you told me I could go to Hell.
Now you're trying to un-ring that bell.

Surprise, surprise!

I don't know what you thought you'd find,
But I'm not the one you left behind.
So if you've come back lookin' for what used to be,
You're gonna need your fool, and that ain't me.
 
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Cody is a stark example of the aftermath of the COVID-19 vaccine. His severe vaccine injuries, marred by denial, misdiagnosis, and censorship, reflect the grim reality faced by so many Americans. On October 26, Cody returned again to the hospital and stayed for two weeks, only being discharged a few days ago. He was hospitalized due to a severe blood clotting disorder triggered by the jab. His story isn't just an individual's struggle; it is a documented case study illuminating the complexities and repercussions of Covid-19 vaccine-related injuries.

https://kirschsubstack.com/p/c...7c-882d-0ca6a508d69c



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Dr. Jeffrey Sachs Says COVID About 'Massive Government Lying,' Quits Democrats

A prominent "lifelong Democrat" scholar and economist who chaired a COVID-19 commission blasted Dr. Anthony Fauci and others for promoting "massive government lying" regarding the coronavirus, and accused Senate Democrats of refusing to investigate the virus' origins.

Dr. Jeffrey Sachs, a Columbia University professor who chaired a COVID-19 commission set up by "The Lancet" medical journal, said he has since left the Democratic Party after seeing how government officials have behaved around the origins of the virus.

"The sad part of this, not with respect to the vaccine per se, but with respect to the origin of the virus, is that it’s yet another case of massive government lying," Sachs said during an appearance on The Hill’s "Rising" show.


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A prominent "lifelong Democrat" scholar and economist who chaired a COVID-19 commission blasted Dr. Anthony Fauci and others for promoting "massive government lying" regarding the coronavirus, and accused Senate Democrats of refusing to investigate the virus' origins.

Dr. Jeffrey Sachs, a Columbia University professor who chaired a COVID-19 commission set up by "The Lancet" medical journal, said he has since left the Democratic Party after seeing how government officials have behaved around the origins of the virus.

"The sad part of this, not with respect to the vaccine per se, but with respect to the origin of the virus, is that it’s yet another case of massive government lying," Sachs said during an appearance on The Hill’s "Rising" show.


"We have since discovered from the start that what the government told us about ‘natural origins’ of this virus were hokey, and really amounting to scientific fraud."

Sachs said that even the scientists who wrote "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2" in the spring of 2020 "didn’t even believe that as they were writing it because they knew that there were so many hints that this could well have come out of a U.S. lab, or out of Chinese lab, or out of a U.S.-China partnership in the research."

Sachs admitted he, too, bought into the mainstream media’s COVID-19 reporting at the beginning of the pandemic, especially after a major scientific journal, “Nature,” said there was overwhelming evidence the origin was natural.

He then credited reporting by The Intercept, U.S. Right to Know, and whistleblowers for helping to change his thinking.

"[They] started letting us in on what was really said inside, was shocking," said Sachs, who added that after requesting a certain document he had been refused by a fellow commission member.

"I said, 'Well, you can’t be on the commission. We’re a transparent commission," Sachs said. “And I began to really see close up that there was so much lying coming out of NIH [National Institutes of Health], coming out of Fauci, coming out of, unfortunately, the government protecting all of this and now it’s spilling out."

Sachs insists his desire to investigate COVID-19’s origin has more to do with present-day and future research. He credited Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., for focusing on gain-of-function research and for trying to persuade Democrat colleagues to probe the issue.

"It's shocking to me that Democratic senators can't understand this is not a partisan issue," Sachs said. "This is a life and death issue. What kind of research is going on? What kind of laboratory manipulation’s going on? What is going on under what we euphemistically … call our biodefense research? Because who knows what it really is?

"I have gotten to understand well that there is a tremendous amount of dangerous research that is not supervised, and it would behoove our Democratic senators, as well as the Republicans, to find out what’s happening. This is not about getting Fauci, this is not about the past, this is about right now."

Sachs ended his appearance with a plea to Senate Democrats.

"C'mon, we need to understand what’s going on, and we need to understand what kind of dangerous research is under way, and we need to understand where this virus came from," he said.

"Open the books at University of North Carolina, open the books at Rocky Mountain Labs, understand the funding by the United States of the teams from University of North Carolina and other universities with the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Let’s understand what really happened."




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Looks like the state of Texas is suing Pfizer. I hope it grows legs.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sues Pfizer, alleges pharma giant lied about COVID vaccine efficacy- Paxton's office accused Pfizer of 'unlawfully misrepresenting the effectiveness of the company’s COVID-19 vaccine'

https://www.foxbusiness.com/po...vid-vaccine-efficacy

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton is suing Pfizer, alleging that the pharmaceutical giant lied about the effectiveness of its COVID-19 vaccine.

In a press release obtained by Fox News Digital, Paxton’s office accused Pfizer of "unlawfully misrepresenting the effectiveness of the company’s COVID-19 vaccine and attempting to censor public discussion of the product."

Paxton said Pfizer’s claim that its vaccine possessed 95% efficacy against infection was "highly misleading."

The Republican AG accused Pfizer of using misleading statistics from initial trial results to "unduly influence" consumer choice by giving the impression that the vaccine was durable.

Paxton accused Pfizer of engaging in a campaign to silence and intimidate people who spoke out against the vaccine.

"We are pursuing justice for the people of Texas, many of whom were coerced by tyrannical vaccine mandates to take a defective product sold by lies," Attorney General Paxton said.

Thursday's lawsuit follows Paxton's investigation into Pfizer and other vaccine manufacturers announced earlier this year.

Pfizer said Paxton's lawsuit has "no merit."

"Pfizer is deeply committed to the well-being of the patients it serves and has no higher priority than the safety and effectiveness of its treatments and vaccines. Since its initial authorization by FDA in December 2020, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has been administered to more than 1.5 billion people, demonstrated a favorable safety profile in all age groups, and helped protect against severe COVID-19 outcomes, including hospitalization and death. The representations made by the company about its COVID-19 vaccine have been accurate and science-based," Pfizer said in a statement.




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The Army is Begging Unvaccinated Soldiers to Return

Unless you're a year or two away from retirement, who in their right fucking mind would walk back into that cesspool.


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Lab Leak Coverup Unraveling

https://hotair.com/david-strom...p-unraveling-n595693

Sky News is doing the work that our own MSM refuses to do.

Ever since it emerged, the origins of COVID should have been one of the top two or three stories in the world. After all, the disease itself was ravaging the world, the responses to the virus were doing even more damage, and the people in charge of responding to the virus were, at the very least, suspects in the case.

Yet even discussion of the possibility of a lab leak was suppressed, and anybody who brought up the possibility was labeled a conspiracy theorist. Social media sites banned people from discussing the matter, and reporters pretended that the issue was settled because Saint Fauci said so.

Those of us who argued–based on voluminous if not conclusive evidence–that the virus likely leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology were labeled cranks. We were scoffed at, ridiculed, and deplatformed. It didn’t matter if you were a Harvard epidemiologist or an average Joe on a barstool; you were persona non grata in polite society.

There are cracks in the stone wall developing. Yesterday I wrote about the British senior minister who dropped the word that the government thought the “novel virus” was likely man-made–he used this as an excuse for the horrible response in Britain–and now Sky News has snagged an interview with Fauci’s boss during the pandemic.







more at link


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COVID Vaccination is Suddenly Changing the Personality of Recipients
By The Exposé on December 2, 2023

In this video, experts explain how the mRNA “trans”jections not only cause physical damage to organs but how they also damage the small capillaries in the brain, override the blood-brain barrier and eventually lead to massive personality changes.

They also discuss how the mRNA injections are breaking the will of some of those who receive them.


ICIC: Suddenly changed? Personality changes after mRNA-Injection, 14 November 2022 (1hr 41 mins)

https://expose-news.com/2023/1...nging-personalities/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Says the organization that advocates for population reduction.



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And still are is my guess here.




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Editorial-Get Jabbed!

With news this week that respiratory illnesses are on the rise, a natural and good question for Minnesotans might be: Is it too late to get a flu shot, the latest COVID-19 booster, and an RSV (respiratory syncytial virus) vaccination?

Breathe easy: No, it is not too late, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. And all three vaccines remain readily available as we start spending more germy time indoors, meaning more sniffles and aches — or worse.

In addition, if you get the shots now in early December, “you’ll still be in great position to be optimally protected against severe illness for those late-December, early-January gatherings,” as the reviews-heavy, expert-vetted media website CNET reported this week. “Immunity varies person to person, but vaccines for respiratory viruses typically take a couple weeks to kick in and provide you with antibodies.”

In other words, don’t hesitate. Talk to your doctor as soon as you can, if you haven’t already. Get to your pharmacy. Get jabbed.

Concerningly, in the seven-county Twin Cities region, a bellwether for the rest of the state, COVID-19 and influenza are leading to more hospitalizations this late fall/early winter, while RSV is spreading even more rapidly, with the number of RSV-related hospitalizations more than doubling in just late November and early December, as Minnesota Public Radio reported in a story on the front page of Monday’s News Tribune. While the rates of all three are still lower than last year at this time, it is also “unlikely that we have reached the peak for this season,” as MPR stated.

That’s all the more reason for all of us advised to do so to get our annual vaccinations and to do our part to slow the spread of completely preventable illnesses that, at best, leave us feeling lousy and, at worst, kill hundreds and thousands every year.

Unfortunately, not nearly enough of us get an annual flu shot, and fewer still are getting the latest COVID booster. A survey by the Center for Health and Risk Communication at the Grady College of Journalism and Mass Communication at the University of Georgia found that just 55% of U.S. adults said they “definitely” or “probably” would get a flu shot this year, and only 46% said they’d get the updated COVID-19 vaccine. By comparison, last flu season, only 49% of adults in the U.S. got a flu shot, according to the CDC.

Make no mistake, influenza is not just a bad cold, and COVID-19 isn’t the same as the flu. Especially if you're in your 60s or older, you have a particularly high risk of getting really sick or perhaps even dying from flu, COVID-19, and RSV. In recent years, between 70% and 85% of deaths from the flu were in people 65 or older, the CDC has estimated.

The CDC has been recommending an annual flu shot for everyone 6 months or older since 2010. “Even when flu vaccination does not prevent illness entirely, it has been shown in several studies to reduce severity of illness in people who get vaccinated but still get sick,” the CDC said .

The new-formula, single-shot Pfizer or Moderna COVID-19 vaccine can be sought at the same time as a flu shot, as long as at least two months have passed since a previous dose or it’s been three months since a positive COVID-19 test result. Enter your ZIP code at vaccines.gov to find a place to get jabbed. Insurance, whether private or Medicare, should cover the cost.

There are two RSV vaccines for adults 60 and older, according to the CNET report. Although all older adults have the option to receive the vaccine, health officials acknowledge the risk from RSV isn't the same for everyone. Having heart disease, asthma, COPD, diabetes, or other health conditions can increase the severity. So, consult your doctor.

“The keys to staying healthy are to wash your hands, cover coughs and sneezes with a tissue or shirt sleeve, clean frequently touched surfaces, wear a face mask when appropriate, and stay home if you are sick,” Dr. Gretchen Karstens, a pediatrician at St. Luke's in Duluth, and Dr. Jane Rudd, a family-medicine provider for Essentia Health in Duluth, wrote in an op-ed in the News Tribune last December. “It's also a good idea to get your flu shot and COVID-19 booster and to establish a relationship with a primary-care provider to stay up to date on other preventive care.”

The advice is sound — especially with holiday gatherings coming and with respiratory illnesses already on the rise in Minnesota.
 
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The state Dept. of Health ( Eek) here in Michigan has been running TV ads recommending that you get 3 shots: Covid. Flu. RSV.
And that you get them all at the same time!
Hard, hard pass, Gretchen!


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