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Yes my ex worked for marketing consulting firm that did work for a big pharma company and things do take a long time. They had rollout and training plans for something and the FDA said "need more trials" and that the rollout off by years.

BUT, the FDA is a big bureaucracy and as such does not do anything fast. If someone lights a fire under them to move faster, they probably can, to a point. But I do think that they rushed the approvals thorough for the vaccines so they could show they "did something".
 
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I'm sorry if this pisses anyone off, but the first question that needs to be asked, "Is the pilot vaccinated?" I'll go there. That is THE. ONE. VARIABLE. that has changed in the last ohhhhh....100 years of aviation???

The FAA VIOLATED its own regulation by allowing pilots to take these "vaccines".



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Great News! Fox ran a story yesterday headlined, “Biden’s Vaccine Mandate for Federal Workers Blocked by Appeals Court.” I know, I know, unless you are a fed you probably thought that it all already over and done with last year, but not quite, so let me fill you in.

Biden originally mandated jabs for 3.5 million federal workers in September 2021. In January 2022, U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Brown issued an injunction blocking the mandate, but three months later, a three-judge panel on the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals reinstated the mandate.

So Feds for Medical Freedom’s lawyers appealed “en banc,” which means they asked the entire Fifth Circuit to review the 3-judge panel’s ruling. The full 16-member Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals’ ruling issued Thursday.

They ruled there is no constitutional basis for requiring federal employees to be vaccinated. Boom.

Not only that, but despite the fact that TWELVE other district courts around the country have rejected challenges to Biden’s Jab Order, the Fifth Circuit controversially extended the injunction to the entire country. Explaining its reasoning, the Court found that vaccines are “private” and “irreversible” medical decisions “made outside the workplace”:

The fact that the President ordered employees to make medical decisions outside of the workplace - and to live with those irrevocable decisions even after they leave the federal workforce - bolsters plaintiffs' argument that the mandate is not a "working condition."

Because Biden’s awful Executive Order didn’t specifically SAY federal workers would be fired if they didn’t comply, Biden’s lawyers argued that hey, there’s no actual HARM yet, because we don’t know FOR SURE what the consequences to employees will be. But the Court disagreed, referring to Biden’s order as “ominous:”

Plaintiffs do not have to identify exactly how the Government will enforce the mandate; it's enough that plaintiffs face the ominous order, "get vaccinated or else."

So. This is terrific news for federal employees specifically, and for medical freedom in general. The case builds on the principle that employers shouldn’t be able to mandate medical procedures that aren’t specifically related to the job. (Examples of job-required mandates might include things like vaccinations for a diplomat who has to travel to a foreign country requiring those inoculations.)

Coincidentally, I argued the same logic in my September 2021 vaccine injunction case, where I persuaded the judge that vaccination affects employees OUTSIDE of work — forever — so a general vaccine mandate cannot “just” be considered an “on the job” safety requirement like wearing helmets on construction sites.

As Obama liked to say, the arc of history bends toward Justice.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...ack&utm_medium=email



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I'm sorry if this pisses anyone off, but the first question that needs to be asked, "Is the pilot vaccinated?" I'll go there. That is THE. ONE. VARIABLE. that has changed in the last ohhhhh....100 years of aviation???

The FAA VIOLATED its own regulation by allowing pilots to take these "vaccines".


Yup. Almost nobody within the industry or government has an interest in asking that question.

My employer was an outlier in not mandating the jabs, but the pilot association and many of the pilots individually applied a lot of pressure to us non-conformists. Management applied a lot of inconvenience to our work situation for the un-jabbed.

My AME, who is a very highly regarded and popular AME here, pressured me to get jabbed, saying that I have "a big bullseye" on my back without it. Like many docs, she was following CDC guidance and reading only medical journals. (I am curious her beliefs now).

FAA aeromedical is certainly far out on a limb.

Federal, local, and foreign governments imposed restrictions or bans on un-jabbed pilots working there. They made us unable to collect a paycheck yet disqualified from free government checks that everybody else was getting. You felt that one big time, I was lucky to only suffer a 50% pay cut.

There are a lot of people hoping to hide in the shadows as the truth becomes known.
 
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Monthly COVID testing kits? Who in the Hell needs this, especially now?
 
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Monthly COVID testing kits? Who in the Hell needs this, especially now?


Well, if a person is going to get two shots of the vaccine, then four, or is it five booster shots now; they're going to need plenty of test kits so they can keep checking to be sure they don't have the virus that they just got six or seven shots to prevent.


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The Epoch Times ran a dubious story Friday headlined, “US Expert Panel to Meet to Determine Which Adverse Events COVID-19 Vaccines Cause.”

The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM) has appointed a committee to review evidence possibly linking the vaccines with a list of specific adverse events including infertility and sudden death.

The NASEM’s website explained “The committee will make conclusions about the causal association between vaccines and specific adverse events.” So.

NASEM official Kathleen Stratton said during a recent meeting that, while NASEM is funded by CDC and HHS, the agencies do not participate in the research and cannot see the final report until it is released to the general public. “What that means is that if a sponsor doesn’t like what the committee has to say—the conclusions of the committee—… the sponsor can’t prevent the report from being made public,” Ms. Stratton pointed out. “This is a very powerful tool that we have.”

Grotesque CDC deep-state tool and human barnacle Tom Shimabukuro said the CDC will “help” the committee do its work by providing CDC studies and data. “We very much value your expertise and your independence. We look forward to working with you, look forward to seeing the results of your findings,” Shimabukuro told the committee.

Sure, I bet the CDC can’t wait. Okay.

Dr. George Grimes, who heads HHS’s Division of Injury Compensation Programs, assured committee members “Your conclusions will help inform injury compensation recommendations and decisions when assessing whether specific adverse events are causally associated with vaccines.”

HHS has never paid a covid jab-injury claim, not one single time.

So don’t hold your breath. Still, it’s weird that the committee is even performing the review, since we have been told about a million times now that the covid jabs are the safest and most effective medicines ever juiced into human arms.

Besides myocarditis and thrombosis/thrombocytopenia, the committee will also consider jab links with:

* Bell’s Palsy

* Capillary leak syndrome

* Chronic headaches

* Chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy

* Guillain-Barrè Syndrome

* Hearing loss

* Infertility

* Shoulder injuries

* Sudden death

* Thromboembolic events like pulmonary embolism

* Tinnitus

* Transverse myelitis

There’s a LOT left off that list, like all the dermatological problems. Still, you could say the list itself is a good start, regardless of whatever the government-funded committee finally concludes.

The committee includes: Dr. Anne Bass, professor of clinical medicine at Weill Cornell Medicine; Dr. Chandy John, director of the Ryan White Center for Pediatric Infectious Diseases and Global Health at Indiana University; and Dr. Thomas Ortel, chief of hematology and professor of medicine and pathology at Duke University.

The final report will be whitewashed, I mean peer-reviewed, prior to publication in A YEAR. They shouldn’t rush it. Public comments on the Epoch Times website were, um, less than enthusiastic.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...ack&utm_medium=email



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Last week, former Blackrock exec Ed Dowd crunched the numbers, using the CDC’s own estimates of skyrocketing excess injuries and deaths, to determine that the post-pandemic, above-normal working-age injuries, disabilities, and deaths have cost the U.S. economy about $150 billion so far.

Edward Dowd @DowdEdward
Estimated 2022 US Vaccine Damage Report:

Estimated Human Cost:
✅26.6 million Injuries
✅1.36 million Disabilities
✅300k excess deaths

Estimated Economic Cost:
Total: $147.8 Billion
✅Injuries: $89.9 billion
✅Disabilities: $52.2 billion
✅Excess Deaths: $5.6 Billion

Dowd quite rationally attributed the excess injuries and deaths — and their economic cost — to the jabs, since that’s the simplest, most logical explanation. But Reuter’s crack squad of highly-motived “fact checkers” pounced, ignoring the real point and focusing on Dowd’s claim it was the jabs:

Um. Reuters’ headline is totally misleading. Without a close read, the “fact checkers” seem to deny the excess deaths occurred. You have to dig down into the text to find this stark admission from the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS):

“And these excess deaths should most certainly not be attributed to specific events or causes – they just represent an overall higher number of deaths in this age group relative to previous years and could be due to any number of different factors (missed COVID-19 deaths, missed emergency care for conditions like heart disease, increases in drug overdose deaths and motor vehicle traffic fatalities, etc.),” NCHS said.

NCHS said that there were 63,141 more deaths in the age group in 2021 compared to 2019; an increase of 44% from 2019 to 2021.

So Reuters quibbled over two ‘facts’: (1) the SIZE of the increase in excess deaths, and (2) the cause, which Reuters admits is officially ‘unknown.’ But SOMETHING caused the excess mortality and morbidity, and the news aggregator only wants to argue about caused it, completely missing the point.

Reuters is useless garbage; maybe worse than useless.

First of all, Reuters compared the wrong figures. Dowd never claimed 84% excess MORTALITY. If anything, Dowd’s report UNDER-estimated excess mortality, using a conservative figure of 23%:

Meanwhile, the mouth-breathing fact-checkers at Reuters quoted a much higher CDC excess mortality figure of 44%, which is +21% higher than Dowd’s number. Reuters obviously didn’t understand Dowd’s argument. Dowd’s 84% figure included injuries and disabilities as WELL AS mortality, which Reuters compared only to mortality.

Reuters’ argument there’s “no evidence” that the deaths were caused by the experimental shots also falls on its face. We can disagree about what constitutes “evidence.” But we must agree that the cause is related to the pandemic somehow.

Reuters pathetically speculated that COVID somehow caused the excess deaths and injuries, even though the death certificates say otherwise. “There is no way to attribute the increase to vaccination or any single specific cause,” NCHS said. “That said, the large increase in COVID deaths (and total deaths) for the latter part of 2021 does coincide with the Delta and Omicron waves.”

It also coincided with the rollout of jab mandates. So.

The NCHS also implicitly admitted in the first quote that it could have been pandemic mitigation causing the excess mortality, through missed medical care, drug overdoses, and so forth.

The point is, we don’t know for sure. Reuters has ‘no evidence’ that the CDC’s guess that covid killed folks through some unknown, disguised mechanism is any better than Dowd’s guess that it was the experimental gene-therapy vaccines.

Dowd also admitted he UNDER-estimated the economic cost, because there are downstream effects from losing all those people from the workforce:


Once again, we see the “fact checkers” are nothing more than pharma shills wearing cheap Halloween reporter costumes. Reuters completely ignored Dowd’s conservative estimate of the massive cost of covid mitigations, regardless of whether caused by vaccines or lockdowns.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...rue&utm_medium=email



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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^^^Par for the course for Reuters...They are NOT a reliable source for the news by any measure! They twist the truth and/or ignore facts as policy, and are nothing more than a propaganda arm for promoting whatever narrative is deemed to be essential by those controlling the agenda! Roll Eyes


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World Health Organization says healthy children and teens probably don't need a Covid vaccine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/he...id-vaccinations.html

In guidance released Tuesday, the global health agency deemed healthy young people 'low priority' for Covid vaccination.

It said the public health impact of vaccinating healthy children and adolescents is 'much lower than the established benefits of traditional essential vaccines for children' like jabs for measles and polio.


More at link.


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Rasmussen Polls: COVID vs. Vaccine. Americans Tell us Which is the Biggest Killer

The video:


Vax deaths = COVID deaths according to latest Rasmussen Reports poll

The polls show that the one thing in this country that both Democrats and Republicans agree on is that the vaccines are as deadly as COVID. That’s stunning.

So will the mainstream media attack the poll? Or will they ignore it?

https://stevekirsch.substack.c...vid-deaths-according



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

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I worked for a short time for a company, the owners wife owned and ran a medical writing business and we shared the building and resources. Her office was across the hall from mine so we often talked.

I learned that it takes up to 9 months to get the paperwork aligned to even start an FDA approval process. That process of testing can take up to a decade with documentation that chases each study documenting the results. Once complete the conclusions must be reached and documented which given some back and forth can take a few years.

Based on that it would take a minimum of 2-3 years at BEST in an ideal world with perfect trials just for the paperwork to be submitted. Then it has to be reviewed and approved which we all know the government won't do in 30 days.

The timeline of the Covid Vaccine approvals doesn't fit.

BTW, has anyone noticed that the vax commercials for C19 state the vaccine is "authorized to be safe and effective".

Read that again.

It doesn't say
- Proven to be safe and effective
- Validated as safe and effective
- Verified as safe and effective

Also notice that unlike all the drug ads, not a single side effect is ever listed or warned about.


Exactly why my pharmacist son warned us and refused to be part of the experiment. He told us it takes up to ten years for trials and studies on a new drug. This was not a vaccine developed in our usual way. This was a whole new type of delivery system. An experiment that everyone who took the shot is now a scientific Petri dish. I whole heartily feel for those that were bamboosled, tricked, or pushed by our medical community and the government. I truly feel for all of my friends who are dealing with the aftermath of the shot. I have many I know of who are dealing with heart attacks, strokes, high blood pressure spikes, clotting. I have lost two in the last year, all of these friends have taken the shot. Call it a coincidence call it what ever you want. It falls in line with all of the other adverse effects after taken the shot. Three months ago we were at a party where couples from the housing development were talking some were pro shot. Talking how one had a heart attack, the other clotting and a stroke, yet they refused to link or even consider that just maybe the shot was the cause. I have lost all trust in my doctor, my health care system.


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Hey, do you know how you get rid of the Marburg Virus?

Blow it out your ass. Razz
 
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Just found out a friend that’s only 39 that bought into the shots and boosters (3 of them) has had nearly uncontrollable blood pressure and a minor heart attack since this bullshit started. Mad
 
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Mask insanity still exists apparently. My wife broke her ankle slipping on the ice about a month ago. Took her to emergency and no mask no problem. They did their thing and scheduled to see a surgeon a few days later. Different building this time. Upon leaving the house the wife says we might need a mask. No problem I wear neck gaiter most of the times in the winter I'll just pull it up over my nose. Actually it's one of those fake mask gaiters.

So we get there and sure enough a big notice on the door face masks required. I pulled my gaiter up over my nose and walked in pushing the wife in a wheel chair in front of me who had a paper face diaper on.
So there are two people sitting at a desk right inside the entry way both with paper face diapers on. These are just volunteers to answer questions on what floor you need to go to or where the bathroom is. So I wheel the wife past them and the older lady calls out to me sir you need a mask! I got one pointing at my gaiter.

No that's not accepted you need one of these holding out the paper face diaper. I went over and took it from her and then said do you know how terrifically bad these things are for the environment? They are laying in the streets all over town! The wind gets a hold of them blows them into trees where the birds get tangled in the elastic loops and die because they can't fly! Then pointing out at Lake Superior as you could see it through the glass entry way I said I seen no less then six of these floating in the lake out fishing last summer I'm sure they are killing fish as well! The only part of the statement I could vouch for is I do see them laying around in parking lots and on the sidewalk.

My guess was right as I figured the lady was clearly enjoying forcing the face diaper on everyone she must be big on the environment and how humans are destroying it. Her eyes grew big and I could almost see her mouth move trying to formulate a response when I turned around and walked away. We get in the elevator and the wife says you really are an asshole do you know that?! Razz


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Mask insanity still exists apparently. My wife broke her ankle slipping on the ice about a month ago. Took her to emergency and no mask no problem. They did their thing and scheduled to see a surgeon a few days later. Different building this time. Upon leaving the house the wife says we might need a mask. No problem I wear neck gaiter most of the times in the winter I'll just pull it up over my nose. Actually it's one of those fake mask gaiters.

So we get there and sure enough a big notice on the door face masks required. I pulled my gaiter up over my nose and walked in pushing the wife in a wheel chair in front of me who had a paper face diaper on.
So there are two people sitting at a desk right inside the entry way both with paper face diapers on. These are just volunteers to answer questions on what floor you need to go to or where the bathroom is. So I wheel the wife past them and the older lady calls out to me sir you need a mask! I got one pointing at my gaiter.

No that's not accepted you need one of these holding out the paper face diaper. I went over and took it from her and then said do you know how terrifically bad these things are for the environment? They are laying in the streets all over town! The wind gets a hold of them blows them into trees where the birds get tangled in the elastic loops and die because they can't fly! Then pointing out at Lake Superior as you could see it through the glass entry way I said I seen no less then six of these floating in the lake out fishing last summer I'm sure they are killing fish as well! The only part of the statement I could vouch for is I do see them laying around in parking lots and on the sidewalk.

My guess was right as I figured the lady was clearly enjoying forcing the face diaper on everyone she must be big on the environment and how humans are destroying it. Her eyes grew big and I could almost see her mouth move trying to formulate a response when I turned around and walked away. We get in the elevator and the wife says you really are an asshole do you know that?! Razz



My wife and I spent the weekend at Disney for a friends birthday. I can count on one hand how many people we saw at EPCOT wearing a mask, yet The other day I saw a person all alone in a car wearing a mask.




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Well…it is Duh-lute. They’re trying to “out-Minnesota” Minnesota…while Minnesota is trying to “out-California” California.
 
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My wife and I spent the weekend at Disney for a friends birthday. I can count on one hand how many people we saw at EPCOT wearing a mask, yet The other day I saw a person all alone in a car wearing a mask.


I see that every single day. I just laugh.
 
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