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Insurance analyst Josh Stirling testified under oath at Senator Ron Johnson’s covid vaccine hearings last week, and announced some pretty grim figures emerging from British data, including that people under 50 who got the mRNA shots now have a +50% higher mortality rate than unvaccinated people:

"The people who are under the age of 50 who took the vaccine now have a 49% higher mortality rate... One dose there was a 145% mortality rate"

Josh Stirling, insurance analyst.

This is based on UK data.

https://twitter.com/wolsned/st...685915832320?lang=en

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...ack&utm_medium=email



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It’s almost as if if you live in the USA, the “vaccines” are safe and effective, do not contribute to excess deaths, are safe and effective, will reduce your chance of getting Covid, are safe and effective, are above reproach (how dare you question the science), and are safe and effective.

Safe and effective. Anyone that blindly believes that at this point needs their head examined. The tip of the iceberg gets bigger and bigger every day and anyone getting booster after booster is adding rounds to the Russian roulette revolver.




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As real scientists will say, there is no way to make a claim of safety about the jabs. It always takes years of double blind controlled studies to wring out what the risks are of a new injected product.

When the jabs were rolled out after small defective studies lasting only a matter of weeks to months, there was no way to make an informed claim of "Safe". Indeed no basis to claim effective either.

Safe is relative, too, because nothing injected is 100% guaranteed not to cause significant harm. For the government and medical professionals to use a sweeping "Safe and Effective" claim is intentionally misleading. I believe in a criminal way with the intent to prevent informed consent, so that people would accept jabs which they otherwise would not.

The true believers in jabs and masks are blinded by their reliance on "Safe and Effective" when in reality the phrase proves to me there is something to be refused.
 
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there was a 145% mortality rate
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there was a 145% mortality rate
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That means for every 1,000 people in the group over a given period of time, 1,450 people in that group died. What’s the problem? Wink
 
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Originally posted by trapper189

Or you can stop jumping to conclusions by imagining that you've read something that's not there.


Just returning to you the same that you're giving. You infer from my posts that I believe in a vaccine conspiracy regarding these student deaths - no matter that I didn't say or infer anything of the kind - so I get to infer from your posts that you're a pro-"vaccine" Karen - no matter that you didn't say or infer anything of the kind . See how that works? Respect is a two-way street.

If you objectively read my responses to your posts you'll see the difference. Why should I stay civil and respectful to someone who won't do likewise?

While we're at it, have you had or seen a lot of success on this forum in persuading or convincing others by casting aspersions and personal attacks? Or by being belligerent, irratible and short-tempered (a.k.a snarky)? Personally, I haven't noticed those tactics to be successful to any degree.


This is what I was addressing:

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Originally posted by marksman41:
It could be that there have been four suicides and seven sudden death "incidents".

That’s it. I don’t know, and I’ve reread your posts as well as mine, how you went anywhere else from there. Seriously, transference much? Show me where I did anything you’ve claim I’ve done before you started making claims about me. Good luck.
 
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Some of you guys are like a bunch of bickering old ladies. Too bad you can't stay on topic.
 
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there was a 145% mortality rate
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I was confused too...Hope this helps.

Josh Stirling explains it in the video of his Senate testimony

https://twitter.com/wolsned/st...wRwiatQL1xVpIxUy2jqw



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We should be optimistic, this doctor said. People get it now, no one’s taking the vaccines, it’s over.

The Covid jabs are dead. All over the world people are voting with their arms. Fewer than 1 in 100 Americans will get an mRNA jab this month.

But the threat that Covid exposed is not over. Not the threat of the virus, which had an average age of death of maybe 82 or 83. Not even the threat of government orders like school closures and lockdowns. Those are awful, but they’re reversible and we seem to have rejected them resoundingly, at least in the United States.

No, I mean the scientific threats that the pandemic has exposed. Covid has revealed how out of control the public health establishment and its handmaiden virologists and immunologists have become. Drug companies too, although their corruption of medicine is less of a surprise.

https://alexberenson.substack....rue&utm_medium=email



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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That’s it. I don’t know, and I’ve reread your posts as well as mine, how you went anywhere else from there. Seriously, transference much? Show me where I did anything you’ve claim I’ve done before you started making claims about me. Good luck.


No, that's not it. You say you've reread the posts and still don't see how you come off as belligerent and snide, with a sprinkling of denigration thrown in? Seriously, obtuse much?

To keep from derailing this thread anymore, either start a fresh thread or take it off-line with e-mail and I'll point out exactly what points you say you're not getting.




 
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Some of you guys are like a bunch of bickering old ladies. Too bad you can't stay on topic.


Yeah, I just get tired of being civil in my posts and not receiving the same in return.

Sorry for the drift OP.




 
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Coincidence? Wonder if he had the Jab(s)

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BELGIAN GOALKEEPER ARNE ESPEEL, 25, DIES AFTER COLLAPSING ON FIELD
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Belgian goalkeeper Arne Espeel died after he collapsed during a match Saturday morning, moments after making a save.

According to reports, Espeel, who was in action for Winkel Sport B of the second provincial division of West Brabant in Belgium, saved a shot and then dropped to the ground after doing so. Moments later, doctors tried to revive him with a defibrillator, but Espeel was pronounced dead after being taken to a hospital.

The game was played on Winkel Sport B's home turf in Sint-Eloois-Winkel in the West Flanders Province. The club released a statement on the matter, according to Reuters.

"Winkel Sport is in very deep mourning by the sudden death of Arne Espeel," the club said. "We wish family and friends of Arne our heartfelt condolences in this heavy loss. Football is an afterthought."

Espeel was 25.
 
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Damar Hamlin is recovering... but won't talk about what he thinks caused the injury.

Twice he says that's something I want to stay away from:

This weekend, Damar Hamlin gave his first interview following his injury. Oddly, he refused to answer the two questions that everyone wants to know about. And he seemed to struggle over his answers, like he wanted to tell the truth but didn’t know how, and then gave up.

Here’s the full interview:



Nobody is arguing that if Damar would be dead now if he hadn’t collapsed during a major football game and then gotten immediate, intense medical treatment. Plus, there’s no news about when, or even if, Damar Hamlin will ever play football again.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...rue&utm_medium=email



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Originally posted by VANQUISH:
Some of you guys are like a bunch of bickering old ladies. Too bad you can't stay on topic.


 
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Insurance analyst Josh Stirling testified under oath at Senator Ron Johnson’s covid vaccine hearings last week, and announced some pretty grim figures emerging from British data, including that people under 50 who got the mRNA shots now have a +50% higher mortality rate than unvaccinated people:

"The people who are under the age of 50 who took the vaccine now have a 49% higher mortality rate... One dose there was a 145% mortality rate"

Josh Stirling, insurance analyst.

This is based on UK data.


Percentages can sound ominous.

But it comes down to this:

Fully vaxxed went from 0.81 deaths to 1.02 deaths per 100,000 people.

One shot vaxxed went from 0.81 to 1.99 deaths per 100,000 people.

So if we assume 350 million (US POP) in both categories, you get.

First, is an additional 0.21 deaths per 100,000. That’s 3,500 “100,000s”. So that’s an additional 735 people.

And the second would be an additional 4,130.

How did he get to 600,000 people?


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^^^ Here's an estimate of 670,000:

New paper: An estimated 13 million people worldwide killed by the COVID vaccines

That's twice as many as were killed by the virus. In the US, the estimates are 670K Americans killed. Perhaps it's time to declare that the vaccines are a worldwide emergency?
Steve Kirsch

Executive summary

The paper suggests you can take the number of vaccine doses delivered, divide by 1,000 to get an estimate of the number of people killed by the COVID vaccine.

The tweet directly from the author sums it up:



The details

The paper: Age-stratified COVID-19 vaccine-dose fatality rate for Israel and Australia
https://denisrancourt.ca/entri...israel_and_australia

The paper points out that “it is not unreasonable to assume an all-population global value of vDFR = 0.1 %”

For the US, 670M doses have been given, so the estimate is 670,000 people have been killed by the COVID vaccines in the US.

I have said for a long time that the URF in VAERS is 41, and there are 16,300 excess US deaths in VAERS (subtracting 250 background deaths per year which gets reported into VAERS) which comes to 668K.

668K is very close to 670K, isn’t it?

https://stevekirsch.substack.c...estimated-13-million



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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I just don’t see how they got there per the graphs they show.


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I just don’t see how they got there per the graphs they show.

I don't know if this helps or not:
Josh Stirling: Dissecting Excess Death Data
https://metatron.substack.com/...secting-excess-death



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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FDA Reveals Why It Changed End Date of Study of Heart Inflammation After COVID Vaccination

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...9OMTeFAzIUnwiY0DoD0j


The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) changed the end date of a study it is requiring Pfizer to conduct because Pfizer requested a delay, the agency says.

“The company requested an extension from FDA for completion, which the agency granted,” an FDA spokesperson told The Epoch Times via email.

When the FDA approved Pfizer’s vaccine in August 2021, it said Pfizer was required to conduct post marketing studies to evaluate the safety of the vaccine.

One of the studies was meant to assess post-vaccination subclinical myocarditis, or heart inflammation, following a third dose of the vaccine in people aged 16 to 30.

That study was going to be completed on June 30, 2022, with Pfizer submitting a final report on the results to the FDA by Dec. 31, 2022.


After the deadline passed, the FDA quietly changed the end date to June 30, 2023.

The FDA declined to say whether it knows why Pfizer wanted an extension and, if so, what the rationale was.

“You may request any communications between FDA and the company by submitting a Freedom of Information Act request. You may also wish to contact the company directly,” the agency spokesperson said.

Pfizer has not responded to inquiries.


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I imagine that a new “deadline” (ironic word for this scenario) will be issued. These cretin are banking on the short memory of the average person and now that nobody but the brainwashed true believers of the Covid cult are getting the poison injections, everyone else must be distracted with balloons, Russian invasion, and guns that kill people whether or not a criminals fingers are attached to them. If it ever is clearly admitted that the “vaccines” caused more damage than they normally do (statistically), the leftist trash directing the country will happily let the government foot the lawsuit and reparations bill at our expense as taxpayers. I have ZERO faith that there will ever be any true justice or blame rest where it belongs; the big pharma machine that knowingly loosed this garbage on the world without proper trials.




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