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7th North Carolina State University Student Found Dead after Dying Suddenly

We had viral or bacterial meningitis run through our campus (whichever is the worse one) when I was in college. One person died and one became disabled from it.

I rather have COVID 5 times than meningitis. In fact I rather have COVID than the vaccine. I did take the vaccine before the mandates and before it was rendered useless by Delta and omicron. It made me more sick than anything I've ever had in my life, luckily it was only for 18hrs.

Stop giving this shit to our children, have you no soul?

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
7th North Carolina State University Student Found Dead after Dying Suddenly

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At least 4 of those deaths were suicide. Link

This is the best I could find on the 5th or 6th one:

“ "The preliminary results from the investigation into last weekend's student death show no signs of foul play and no signs of an intentional act," N.C. State Police Chief Dan House.” Link

And a student was murdered. Link

But yeah, definitely all COVID or COVID vaccine or aliens or grassy knoll or CHINA!

It could be that there have been four suicides and seven sudden death "incidents".

The article about the suicides doesn't say those deaths are part of the seven, while the other news piece states -

"According to reports, this is the seventh incident of a student who died at North Carolina State University this academic year. "

which may or may not include the deaths by suicide. With the state of journalistic reporting these days there needs to be some definitive clarification of what an "incident", in this case, includes or excludes.

The same is true for the other two deaths in the articles posted - one still pending cause and the other a murder. Again, there isn't anything in those pieces that link those deaths to the seven sudden on-campus deaths as stated by the article on the seven -

" ...marking the seventh student to die suddenly on the campus since the school year started."

Also, the murder seems to have occurred off-campus at a Food Lion shopping center so, if the article about the seven is accurate, that death shouldn't be included. But again, clarification is needed before we can combine all these deaths into the original seven.

Regardless, it's unconscionable that these 'over-educated educators' or ANYONE for that matter, would mandate an untested and ineffective 'vaccine' w/ unknown long term effects on the healthiest portion of our population! Especially since that cohort has a better chance of dying by lightning strike than dying of COVID!

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Originally posted by marksman41:
It could be that there have been four suicides and seven sudden death "incidents".

The article about the suicides doesn't say those deaths are part of the seven, while the other news piece states -
"According to reports, this is the seventh incident of a student who died at North Carolina State University this academic year."

which may or may not include the deaths by suicide. With the state of journalistic reporting these days there needs to be some definitive clarification of what an "incident", in this case, includes or excludes.

No kidding? Because the four suicides happened before the 7th death. On the other hand, there are articles about the 7th death that do mention the suicides and the kid who was found dead in his dorm room in January.

The “7th North Carolina State University Student Found Dead after Dying Suddenly” article is clickbait bullshit based on conjecture. It makes absolutely zero claims as to how any student at NCSU died. It’s obviously written so the reader connects the dots and gets all worked up.

Who's right and who's wrong? Where can be found the definitive total of deaths, causes, and locations this semester?

Right now it's all a mix of "clickbait bullshit".

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The “7th North Carolina State University Student Found Dead after Dying Suddenly” article is clickbait bullshit based on conjecture. It makes absolutely zero claims as to how any student at NCSU died. It’s obviously written so the reader connects the dots and gets all worked up.

I would agree with you... except for the fact that North Carolina State University mandated the shots. If there was no mandate, it would be up to the student if they wanted it or not. But with the mandate, any possible connection to any death is on the University. They don't get the benefit of the doubt.

I don’t recall a time where any university in the US had headlines along 7 sudden deaths in such a short period. No matter what, something seems wrong.

It would be interesting to see the 5 year data on college student suicides before covid vaccine shots. And compare that to student suicides after mandatory shots.

What funeral directors know that you don't

My source said that normally they’d see 1 stillbirth/month pre-vaccine. After the vaccines rolled out, they were seeing as many as 12 stillbirths a month. But they noted that many hospitals will dispose of these cases directly and NOT involve the funeral home, so they are only seeing a fraction of these deaths; the actual increase could be much larger than the 12X increase they observed.

In the 78 years they’ve been in business, they can’t recall ever having seen a 15-year old die from a heart attack. In December 2022, they had 1 a week for three weeks straight.

A very experienced nurse I consulted had never even heard of a 15-year old with a heart attack in her entire career. Now, she hears of these cases on a regular basis.

These funeral homes are also seeing the strange rubbery clots that they’ve never seen before.

The medical examiner was called and verified it, but nobody is saying anything publicly for fear of being fired.

Basically, ever since 2021, they have been seeing very strange things: stillbirths, number of “found dead,” healthy people having heart attacks and strokes, blood clots, etc. They’ve never seen anything like that before; it’s a “noticeable” difference.

https://stevekirsch.substack.c...-directors-know-that

My question is when will the significant portion of the population that still cannot believe that the “vaccines” are doing damage accept the fact that they are? What will it take? A personal loss? A funeral director showing them the rubbery worms in loved ones arteries? Finding a teen dead in their room from a stroke or heart event? I am past arguing with people that know everything because they hear it from their chosen source of information- the folks that continually harp on about trusting the science and the MSM that give them credibility.

As long as my tax dollars are no longer paying for snake oil, tests kits, etc., their choices are on them. I do find it sad that so many children who are at the mercy of such ignorance will pay the price. My children will not be among them.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
My question is when will the significant portion of the population that still cannot believe that the “vaccines” are doing damage accept the fact that they are? What will it take?

Those are very important questions.

The entire Covid response was politically weaponized by the left. Probably at least 2 reasons amongst those with power; bring down President Trump, and a general lust for tyrannical control. Profit was there, too, but it came after the political lines were drawn.

This politicization eliminated open, honest, factual discussion. People reacted based on emotional attachments such as hate Trump, love NBC, Fox News is racist. A patina of Science was splashed onto total shit, and it became the confirmation of how stupid people must be who challenged The Narrative.

Contrast this with any other technical topic that isn't in the political realm, where people assess new information impartially. There is a small resistance to change in people, but the facts win before long.

Many who identify as not-conservative believe they are on the side of goodness. The media and leftist politicians push this view hard. The opposition are bad people. Mean, racist, money grubbing selfish fascists.

Those who still believe in masks, jabs, lockdowns, the danger of ivermectin, etc are not going to change until either the mainstream media changes or they get smacked hard enough by reality to realize their side is lying to them.

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Originally posted by marksman41:
Who's right and who's wrong? Where can be found the definitive total of deaths, causes, and locations this semester?

Right now it's all a mix of "clickbait bullshit".

OK, how about this one:

"NC State students, mental health professionals mourn eighth student death since start of 2022-23 school year"

"Saturday’s apparent suicide marks the fifth suicide on the North Carolina State University campus since the start of the 2022-23 school year. Three of the university's five suicides came from students enrolled in the College of Engineering."

Link

There's a video in the link where the news woman says one of the remaining three was natural causes. It's a local TV news station which I highly doubt is involved in a vast conspiracy to cover up 7 sudden deaths at NCSU due to COVID vaccines.

New study finds that masks made no difference. Whether surgical masks or N95. Just one study, but dang.

Face masks made ‘little to no difference’ in preventing spread of COVID, scientific review finds

By Melissa Rudy
Published February 13, 2023
Fox News

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The stance by the Centers for Disease and Control Prevention (CDC) on face masks has taken many twists and turns throughout the COVID pandemic.

After initially claiming face coverings weren’t necessary, the CDC changed course in April 2020, calling on all Americans — even children as young as 2 years old — to mask up.

That September, then-CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield said during a Senate hearing that "face masks are the most important powerful health tool we have," even suggesting that they might offer more protection than vaccines.

Those recommendations likely played a large part in 39 U.S. states eventually enacting mask mandates.

Now, a new scientific review — led by 12 researchers from esteemed universities around the world — suggests that widespread masking may have done little to nothing to curb the transmission of COVID-19.

Published by Cochrane Library, the review dug into the findings of 78 randomized controlled trials to determine whether "physical interventions" — including face masks and hand-washing — lessened the spread of respiratory viruses.

When comparing the use of medical/surgical masks to wearing no masks, the review found that "wearing a mask may make little to no difference in how many people caught a flu-like illness/COVID-like illness (nine studies; 276,917 people); and probably makes little or no difference in how many people have flu/COVID confirmed by a laboratory test (six studies; 13,919 people)."

Next, the review compared medical/surgical masks to N95 respirators (or P2 respirators, which are used in Europe).

It found that "wearing N95/P2 respirators probably makes little to no difference in how many people have confirmed flu (five studies; 8407 people); and may make little to no difference in how many people catch a flu-like illness (five studies; 8407 people), or respiratory illness (three studies; 7799 people)."

Read the rest of the article

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Originally posted by kkina:
Face masks made ‘little to no difference’ in preventing spread of COVID, scientific review finds

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by marksman41:
Who's right and who's wrong? Where can be found the definitive total of deaths, causes, and locations this semester?

Right now it's all a mix of "clickbait bullshit".

OK, how about this one:

"NC State students, mental health professionals mourn eighth student death since start of 2022-23 school year"

"Saturday’s apparent suicide marks the fifth suicide on the North Carolina State University campus since the start of the 2022-23 school year. Three of the university's five suicides came from students enrolled in the College of Engineering."

Link

There's a video in the link where the news woman says one of the remaining three was natural causes. It's a local TV news station which I highly doubt is involved in a vast conspiracy to cover up 7 sudden deaths at NCSU due to COVID vaccines.

Sure, I can accept the numbers in this article as it is clear regarding the timeline and number of suicides. Until this one article posted today, though, there wasn't anything previously written or reported that either you or I could say was definitive or entirely accurate. It is good to get at least some clarity on the issue.

But nothing has changed - You continue to feel that the COVID shots are safe and effective and the government is telling the truth about them, while I continue to remain skeptical.

If you want, I'll write a note to your doctor saying that you can have all the COVID shots and boosters meant for me. You'll be soooo protected then, for sure!

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Originally posted by konata88:
I don’t recall a time where any university in the US had headlines along 7 sudden deaths in such a short period. No matter what, something seems wrong.

It could be fentanyl OD.. we will never know for sure.

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Originally posted by marksman41:
But nothing has changed - You continue to feel that the COVID shots are safe and effective and the government is telling the truth about them, while I continue to remain skeptical.

If you want, I'll write a note to your doctor saying that you can have all the COVID shots and boosters meant for me. You'll be soooo protected then, for sure!

Or you can stop jumping to conclusions by imagining that you've read something that's not there.

One of the things I credit the forum with is allowing me to exercise and learn to make much better use of my critical thinking cap. I challenge you to critically read the article wcb6092 linked and find where it says how these students died and/or any link to COVID or any vaccines of any kind. My hope is that anyone who reads these types of "articles" will recognize them for what they are and stop using them to support whatever beliefs they may have.

I won't ask you to find where I've said any of the things you have claimed about me above as I'm not interested in wasting anyone's time. I'll summarize what you or anyone else who chooses to go down that rabbit hole will find:
I've been skeptical about all of this from the beginning. I've called bullshit wherever I've seen it; I believe starting with the COVID death tolls, continuing with masks, directional markings in the grocery stores, everybody's darling Gov. DeSantis declaring COVID a hazard to navigation and shutting Florida boaters down, etc. My kids will never get the shot while I have anything to say about it. I did get one shot because I thought it might help prevent my parents from getting it. I wound up getting the VID before the second shot, so no more shots for me.

Using clickbait bullshit doesn't help anyone's argument. They did it in the beginning to scare the bejezus out of people to gain compliance. You remember the 35 year old triathlete doctor that died suddenly from COVID so it affects everyone? Now "died suddenly" must be the vaccine.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:

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Originally posted by konata88:
I don’t recall a time where any university in the US had headlines along 7 sudden deaths in such a short period. No matter what, something seems wrong.

It could be fentanyl OD.. we will never know for sure.

It's 8 now, 5 suicides, 1 murder, and 2 natural causes. Virginia Tech had 32 sudden deaths. I suppose they could have been fentanyl ODs and we will never know for sure.

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Originally posted by trapper189

Or you can stop jumping to conclusions by imagining that you've read something that's not there.

Just returning to you the same that you're giving. You infer from my posts that I believe in a vaccine conspiracy regarding these student deaths - no matter that I didn't say or infer anything of the kind - so I get to infer from your posts that you're a pro-"vaccine" Karen - no matter that you didn't say or infer anything of the kind . See how that works? Respect is a two-way street.

If you objectively read my responses to your posts you'll see the difference. Why should I stay civil and respectful to someone who won't do likewise?

While we're at it, have you had or seen a lot of success on this forum in persuading or convincing others by casting aspersions and personal attacks? Or by being belligerent, irratible and short-tempered (a.k.a snarky)? Personally, I haven't noticed those tactics to be successful to any degree.