Sanity seems to be spreading like a virus… let’s hope it passes.

https://bismarcktribune.com/ne...8d-af33e029ca79.html

Bill would ban COVID-19 shots in North Dakota; lawmakers weighing more vaccine bills, again

North Dakota lawmakers are again weighing bills that target vaccines, including one that would ban COVID-19 shots.

The Senate Human Services Committee on Tuesday heard Senate Bill 2384, brought by Sen. Jeff Magrum, R-Hazelton. The bill would ban messenger RNA vaccines in North Dakota and penalize providers with a misdemeanor charge. It's one of several bills opposing vaccines, a trend in legislation since 2021.

The Moderna and Pfizer COVID-19 shots are mRNA vaccines. Supplies of other COVID-19 vaccines by Novavax and Janssen are expiring, and the federal government isn't purchasing additional doses, according to state Immunization Program Manager Molly Howell.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says mRNA vaccines use messenger RNA created in a lab to teach cells how to make a protein that triggers a body's immune system to produce antibodies protecting people from getting sick from a germ.

Magrum proposed amendments to make the bill into a two-year moratorium on mRNA vaccines and for a study.

The Senate panel did not take immediate action on the bill.

Magrum said he introduced the bill after two aunts died from blood clots "after they received a shot," and after he noticed "a huge uptick in young people dying suddenly" in obituaries. He also cited concerns with a new vaccine for respiratory syncytial virus in children.

At the end of 2022 nearly 70% of North Dakota adults were fully vaccinated against COVID-19, with the rate for all vaccine-eligible people -- age 5 and older -- at about 63%, according to federal data. That compared with 64% and 57%, respectively, at the end of 2021. North Dakota still lags behind the national rates.

More than 1 million doses of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines have been administered in North Dakota, according to Howell.

Bill supporters said mRNA vaccines are risky and harmful and need more scrutiny.

Opponents said mRNA vaccines are a promising medical technology. They also said the bill would force North Dakotans to seek health care outside the state, and would criminalize medical providers.

Other vaccine-related bills would ban health care employers and colleges from promoting and mandating COVID-19 shots, and would ban and criminalize vaccination requirements with a felony.

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They also said the bill would force North Dakotans to seek health care outside the state, and would criminalize medical providers.

Other vaccine-related bills would ban health care employers and colleges from promoting and mandating COVID-19 shots, and would ban and criminalize vaccination requirements with a felony.

Well, if that's what it takes, then so be it...It's about time! We need to do whatever it takes ensure Informed Consent, Bodily Autonomy, and Freedom for every individual to have the Right to Choose what's best for them!

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Well, if that's what it takes, then so be it...It's about time! We need to do whatever it takes ensure Informed Consent, Bodily Autonomy, and Freedom for every individual to have the Right to Choose what's best for them!

I agree... in part. I don't think medical providers should be criminalized for offering it. But they need to be held liable for the results.

When the mRNA "vaccines" came out I was initially skeptical because they were un-proven, experimental, still in trials.
Still, I didn't fault anyone who really wanted one. Your body, your choice. But when they started the mandates I was strongly opposed to that.

My position has not changed. Yes, to Informed Consent, No to mandates. My body, my choice.

What we really need to do:
Congress must repeal the liability shield they gave big Pharma for all "vaccines".

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Congress must repeal the liability shield they gave big Pharma for all "vaccines".

People would start to wonder why they are signing liability waivers when they line up for their shots. Maybe a 10% discount or a coupon to go with it.

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Maybe a 10% discount or a coupon to go with it.

I don't know if that was intended to be funny, but it is.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Sanity seems to be spreading like a virus… let’s hope it passes.

https://bismarcktribune.com/ne...8d-af33e029ca79.html

Bill would ban COVID-19 shots in North Dakota; lawmakers weighing more vaccine bills, again

North Dakota lawmakers are again weighing bills that target vaccines, including one that would ban COVID-19 shots.

The Senate Human Services Committee on Tuesday heard Senate Bill 2384, brought by Sen. Jeff Magrum, R-Hazelton. The bill would ban messenger RNA vaccines in North Dakota and penalize providers with a misdemeanor charge. It's one of several bills opposing vaccines, a trend in legislation since 2021.

The Moderna and Pfizer COVID-19 shots are mRNA vaccines. Supplies of other COVID-19 vaccines by Novavax and Janssen are expiring, and the federal government isn't purchasing additional doses, according to state Immunization Program Manager Molly Howell.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says mRNA vaccines use messenger RNA created in a lab to teach cells how to make a protein that triggers a body's immune system to produce antibodies protecting people from getting sick from a germ.

Magrum proposed amendments to make the bill into a two-year moratorium on mRNA vaccines and for a study.

The Senate panel did not take immediate action on the bill.

Magrum said he introduced the bill after two aunts died from blood clots "after they received a shot," and after he noticed "a huge uptick in young people dying suddenly" in obituaries. He also cited concerns with a new vaccine for respiratory syncytial virus in children.

At the end of 2022 nearly 70% of North Dakota adults were fully vaccinated against COVID-19, with the rate for all vaccine-eligible people -- age 5 and older -- at about 63%, according to federal data. That compared with 64% and 57%, respectively, at the end of 2021. North Dakota still lags behind the national rates.

More than 1 million doses of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines have been administered in North Dakota, according to Howell.

Bill supporters said mRNA vaccines are risky and harmful and need more scrutiny.

Opponents said mRNA vaccines are a promising medical technology. They also said the bill would force North Dakotans to seek health care outside the state, and would criminalize medical providers.

Other vaccine-related bills would ban health care employers and colleges from promoting and mandating COVID-19 shots, and would ban and criminalize vaccination requirements with a felony.

And this is too far in the opposite direction. Sure, ban the vaccine mandates. But making criminals out of providers for offering the vaccine is every bit as bad as proposals restricting those who choose not to take it.

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I agree... in part. I don't think medical providers should be criminalized for offering it. But they need to be held liable for the results.

I disagree. If their state government decides to ban the use of mRNA then there should be criminal consequences for those that provide it.

And I do agree with at least a moratorium for a few years to fully evaluate the technology. There is zero evidence of benefit, and lots of evidence of harm.

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Other vaccine-related bills would ban health care employers and colleges from promoting and mandating COVID-19 shots, and would ban and criminalize vaccination requirements with a felony.

This is, to me, the most important statement in this article. I have no doubt the intent is to put something in place that places blame where it belongs rather than on other than the people getting the shot with no warnings about poor efficacy, or outright harm from the “vaccine”. I see common ground like this as the only way it will pass. Lawmakers won’t be in support of outlawing what people consent to of their own free will. I like to think it is the beginning of holding the shyster big pharma folks liable, removing their STILL applicable protections from said liability.

Regarding the proposals in North Dakota:

- First, there are multiple bills, and they're only bills at this point.
- Second, there is also a proposed amendment to make it a two year moratorium on mRNA vaccines!
- Third, mRNA vaccines are EXPERIMENTAL! Apparently some in the ND legislature are alarmed at using an unproven/untested experimental gene therapy on the population at large.
- Fourth, the 'criminalize the medical providers' statement is from opponents of ALL of the proposed bills, which would apply in 'some' contexts where violation of the law occurred, but is represented by those opponents in an alarmist fashion.
- Fifth, the specific 'criminalize as a felony' charge is with respect to mandating & promoting COVID-19 shots by health care 'employers', and colleges, NOT health care 'providers'!

All the data shows the mRNA shots have many serious or fatal side effects on young people, meaning minors who are under 18. I fully support a law which makes it a felony to provide an mRNA product to minors at least for a few years until there is longer term data.

As to consenting adults, though I am a libertarian about one's own body, there are many things a consenting adult is not allowed to do such as inject heroin. In the case of mRNA products currently available, it is clear that there are substantial risks, while the benefits appear at best to be nothing (but seemingly they have negative effectiveness).

Normally a new product such as a vaccine would take many years before becoming available. Forcing these new mRNA technology products to follow the same proofs of safety and effectiveness makes sense given what we know about the products and the disease.

The level of death and serious illness these products are causing is staggering.

https://www.breitbart.com/spor...ng-basketball-court/

Michigan Teen Dies After Suddenly Collapsing on Basketball Court

Cartier Woods, 18, collapsed while playing basketball at Northwestern High School in Detroit, Michigan, on Jan 31. Only minutes into the game, Woods told his coach he was “feeling dizzy” and that he was not feeling well just before he collapsed, according to the Detroit Free Press.

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Michigan Teen Dies After Suddenly Collapsing on Basketball Court

Do we know that he was vaxxed?

No, article doesn't say.

Just another oddity in youth dyeing suddenly.

Lilly Kimbell, 31, former Georgia Bulldogs tennis player, died suddenly and unexpectedly Sunday from a heart attack.

Lilly was one most successful doubles players in Georgia tennis history. “We were stunned and heartbroken to learn of Lilly passing away,” said Georgia head coach Jeff Wallace.

The family tweeted something about the healthy young athlete having kidney problems that they believe led to her heart attack. But they didn’t say when Lilly started having kidney problems, or when they started getting worse. I could take a guess.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...ay-february-9th-2023

Yesterday I had a telephone conference with my financial advisor at Fidelity. I hadn't spoken to her for nearly two years and at that time she was dealing with the recent death of her father...from covid. During that conversation we discussed the "vaccine" and how she wished her father had taken it to perhaps keep him from dying. She had it and strongly recommended I get it.

In these past conversations I'd learned she leaned left, however her mother was hard right. We had some interesting conversations besides finance, but they didn't get too off the rails.

During our talk yesterday, in addition to the market and economy, we talked about my recent retirement and our overall health. Come to find out, she was diagnosed with calcification of the heart and put on specific medications and then the talk also went to statins. After having heard the side effects and news of the "vaccine", of course now she wishes she hadn't taken it, though Fidelity also required she do so.

I feel sorry for her and all those who either thought it was the right thing to do at the time, or were required to maintain their jobs. I hope she can somehow get over this condition.

The assholes are doubling down and stopping at nothing at getting this poison into arms, especially children. I guess the monsters need a new approach now that even their brainwashed base are opting out of boosters.

https://www.politico.com/news/...dren-adults-00082040

CDC adds Covid-19 vaccinations to immunization schedules for children, adults

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention added Covid-19 vaccinations for children, adolescents and adults to its immunization schedule.

These updates reflect current agency recommendations. Adding them formalizes that guidance for health care providers and schools.

The CDC’s vaccination schedule, released Thursday, does not mandate vaccines. States and localities determine which vaccines schools require for students, and all 50 states have medical exemptions for vaccines. Some states also have nonmedical vaccination exemptions for religious or philosophical reasons.
For children: The CDC recommends that healthy children 6 months to 4 years old receive a primary series of two doses of the Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech monovalent Covid-19 vaccine followed by a third dose of a bivalent vaccine.

Children aged 5 to 12 should receive two doses of the Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine followed by a bivalent shot. Kids 12 and up should get either two doses of the Moderna, Pfizer or Novavax vaccine followed by a bivalent booster. Currently, only Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech manufacture updated bivalent shots that target coronavirus variants that were circulating widely last fall.

Immunocompromised children should receive three doses of the Moderna or Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine as a primary series instead of two, and should also receive a bivalent booster.

Pediatric vaccines are smaller doses than adult vaccines, and in all cases, the CDC recommends that children receive doses appropriate for their age.

For adults: Healthy adults should receive a primary Covid-19 vaccination of two doses of the Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech or Novavax vaccine and a bivalent booster, similar to children. Some adults may choose to receive a Novavax booster instead if they would not like the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna shot, or those boosters aren’t available.

Adults with compromised immune systems should receive either two doses of the Novavax vaccine, or three doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine and a bivalent booster.

The agency recommends that adults who got the one-dose Covid-19 vaccine from Johnson & Johnson and one booster dose, followed by a bivalent booster.

Background: In October, the agency’s vaccine advisory committee voted unanimously to update the schedule to include Covid-19 shots, and to include Covid-19 shots in the federal Vaccines for Children Program, which provides free vaccines for children who are eligible for Medicaid, un- or under-insured, or are part of the nation’s indigenous population.

Nearly 85 percent of adults in the U.S. have completed their primary Covid-19 vaccination series, according to the CDC, but only a third have received a bivalent booster. Just over 12 percent remain unvaccinated.

A third of children 6 months to 17 years old have completed their primary Covid-19 vaccination series, but over 90 percent of children 6 months to 4 years have not received a single shot.

What’s next: The FDA’s vaccine advisory committee recently voted unanimously to recommend that all primary vaccination series switch to the updated bivalent shot, but the agency has yet to adopt these recommendations. The committee also discussed a possible path forward to include yearly Covid-19 booster vaccinations, similar to the annual flu shot, but it did not formalize a path forward.

This is grossly unconscionable. My goodness these people are evil. It's that or they are incomprehensibly stupid.

^^^Don't rule out that they could be evil AND incomprehensibly stupid...Just sayin'

The last time we checked, I believe the CDC was exempt from any mandates. And also the shot rate was relatively low for CDC employees vs the population.

What's the status now? What percentage of CDC employees are getting boosters? The initial shot or two doesn't count - that was a cluster fuck of panic and misinformation. With the information that's been available for the past year or so, how many at the CDC are still getting boosters or their first shot?

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This is grossly unconscionable. My goodness these people are evil. It's that or they are incomprehensibly stupid.

Got to keep that gravy train going for Pfizer now that they’ve acknowledged that a shot goes from $0 to $150 a pop when the Covid emergency ends in May and demand will drop to zero

Sickening