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Originally posted by sjtill:
Rat2306–That was really striking, wasn’t it?
Foreign correspondents addressed policy issues, US MSM “journalists” attacked Trump personally—also stupidly and redundantly.

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Originally posted by thunderson:
Trump and Company owned that address.

Declaring a National Emergency was a great move to bypass the bureaucracy and get shit done through the private sector.

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It will be interesting to see what the market closes at today. During the speech it was trending up quickly.

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Originally posted by thunderson:
Trump and Company owned that address.

Declaring a National Emergency was a great move to bypass the bureaucracy and get shit done through the private sector.

It will be interesting to see what the market closes at today. During the speech it was trending up quickly.

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Originally posted by Ironmike57:


This panic must be hitting the ammo market as well. SGA has a 5-10 day shipment date after you order. Normally 1-2 days.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by 12GA:
Both my children are teachers in city school districts and this is absolutely true. They’re both hoping their schools stay open so that their students will continue to get two meals a day.

I find this utterly appalling. They're supposed to be in school, the school systems for which I pay taxes, to feed their minds, not their bellies

Same here. Not only that, but people are actively rooting for schools to stay open, ensuring further spread of the disease among students who CAN afford to eat at home. Because poor kids. Yeah, that seems fair and logical.

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Originally posted by Ironmike57:
This panic must be hitting the ammo market as well. SGA has a 5-10 day shipment date after you order. Normally 1-2 days.

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The C.D.C.’s scenarios were depicted in terms of percentages of the population. Translated into absolute numbers by independent experts using simple models of how viruses spread, the worst-case figures would be staggering if no actions were taken to slow transmission.

Between 160 million and 214 million people in the United States could be infected over the course of the epidemic, according to one projection. That could last months or even over a year, with infections concentrated in shorter periods, staggered across time in different communities, experts said. As many as 200,000 to 1.7 million people could die..

And, the calculations based on the C.D.C.’s scenarios suggested, 2.4 million to 21 million people in the United States could require hospitalization, potentially crushing the nation’s medical system, which has only about 925,000 staffed hospital beds. Fewer than a tenth of those are for people who are critically ill.

The assumptions fueling those scenarios are mitigated by the fact that cities, states, businesses and individuals are beginning to take steps to slow transmission, even if some are acting less aggressively than others. The C.D.C.-led effort is developing more sophisticated models showing how interventions might decrease the worst-case numbers, though their projections have not been made public.

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Even severe flu seasons stress the nation’s hospitals to the point of setting up tents in parking lots and keeping people for days in emergency rooms. Coronavirus is likely to cause five to 10 times that burden of disease, said Dr. James Lawler, an infectious diseases specialist and public health expert at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. Hospitals “need to start working now,” he said, “to get prepared to take care of a heck of a lot of people.”

Dr. Lawler recently presented his own “best guess” projections to American hospital and health system executives at a private webinar convened by the American Hospital Association. He estimated that some 96 million people in the United States would be infected. Five out of every hundred would need hospitalization, which would mean close to five million hospital admissions, nearly two million of those patients requiring intensive care and about half of those needing the support of ventilators.

Dr. Lawler’s calculations suggested 480,000 deaths, which he said was conservative. By contrast, about 20,000 to 50,000 people have died from flu-related illnesses this season, according to the C.D.C. Unlike with seasonal influenza, the entire population is thought to be susceptible to the new coronavirus.

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A recent paper, cited by Dr. Fauci at a news briefing on Tuesday, concludes that the rapid and aggressive quarantine and social distancing measures applied by China in cities outside of the outbreak’s epicenter achieved success. “Most countries only attempt social distancing and hygiene interventions when widespread transmission is apparent. This gives the virus many weeks to spread,” the paper said, with the average number of people each new patient infects higher than if the measures were in place much earlier, even before the virus is detected in the community.

“By the time you have a death in the community, you have a lot of cases already,” said Dr. Mecher. “It’s giving you insight into where the epidemic was, not where it is, when you have something fast moving.” He added: “Think starlight. That light isn’t from now, it’s from however long it took to get here.”

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Originally posted by Ironmike57:
This panic must be hitting the ammo market as well. SGA has a 5-10 day shipment date after you order. Normally 1-2 days.

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
"You can get a test. Anyone can get a test." -Trump

A distant friend of my wife, came down with flu like symptoms. Went to a walk in clinic. They gave her a flu test, which came back negative. Doctor was alarmed with her symptoms, sent her to the ER to get tested for Coronavirus. The ER gave her a chest xray, which looked very bad. Said yeah, she needs the coronavirus test. Except they dont do the test at that hospital. Sent her with a doctors order to Quest labs. Quest labs asked her for travel history. Since she hasn't been to Europe or China, they said she does not qualify for the test and will not get one.

My wifes friends said there were 12 people in the ER that all, at the same time, went to quest labs for the same coronavirus test, all with the same symptoms. NONE of them were offered the test because none of them have traveled!!!


12 people, in the span of 2 hours in the same hospital, all with the same symptoms, all who had negative flu test, and all were denied a test.

This occurred in Florida. What an absolute cluster fuck.

Its out there folks. We are being lied to. The 1500 number that the CDC gives us is no better than Chinese propaganda. The governor of Ohio said that his experts believe that his state has at least 100,000 cases, just in Ohio, based on what they are seeing in the hospitals currently.