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Of course there are people that haven’t had the ‘vaccine’ that have gotten Covid more than once. And so have people that have had it. Just goes to prove that there’s no reason to get it.

This was all a big power and money grab. These ‘vaccine’ companies got it the cheap and easy way: The halls of congress


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Just an observation here but...

I don't know anyone (and have not heard of anyone) who has gotten sick w/ COVID and recovered, thus having Natural Immunity, that has later gotten sick w/ COVID a second time
One of our members posted his experience, a while ago. He was hit very hard by The Virus, recovered, and got slammed again a year later.


I have a coworker that has had it three times. Once unvaccinated, twice post vaccination.



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I’ve had it three times that I know of. The first was in January 2020, before the media told us that you’re going to die if you catch it. It was horrible and took me about 3 weeks to recover. I’ve had it twice since then. Both times very mild after about the first day. The last time I was sick for about 12 hours.




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After trillions of dollars spent, and no one has any idea why some people get the sniffles and others get hit hard. Maybe instead of pissing away money on "vaccines" that do nothing beneficial, do some research on WHY.


Its here, most often now about the same as a common cold. Which everyone gets and gets over every year.
 
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I’ve had it three times that I know of. The first was in January 2020, before the media told us that you’re going to die if you catch it. It was horrible and took me about 3 weeks to recover. I’ve had it twice since then. Both times very mild after about the first day. The last time I was sick for about 12 hours.


This sounds exactly like my experience! Only I have just had it twice total. My wife got two shots. She was scared to death of it. She got the Covid a week after my second bout.
 
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1249 Athlete Heart Attacks, 847 Dead, Since Last Year

https://slaynews.com/news/1249...ign=daily-newsletter

1,249 young healthy athletes have suffered sudden heart attacks or other serious issues since last year, disturbing new data has revealed.

Among those to have fallen ill, a staggering 847 have died.

The shocking figures were revealed by Good Sciencing, which has been tracking the deaths and serious health issues of athletes and maintaining a list.

https://goodsciencing.com/covi...ie-after-covid-shot/



The list shows a huge spike in major medical issues among mostly young athletes that started soaring in early 2021 and continued into this year.

Data for previous years shows only a fraction of sudden deaths and serious health complications in young athletes.

For comparison, the International Olympic Committee in Lausanne, Switzerland, studied documents from international data banks dated from 1966 to 2004.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17143117/

In those 38 years of records, the documents show a total of 1,101 sudden deaths in athletes under 35 years of age.

The numbers equate to an average of 29 athlete deaths per year.

The study found that sports with the highest incidence are soccer and basketball.

A separate study by Maron on sudden death in US athletes identified 1,866 deaths of athletes with cardiac disease from 1980 to 2006 in 38 different sports.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...&cauthor_id=27039955

The study found a prevalence of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.

From 2005 to 2006 an average of 66 deaths per year were found.

82% of those cases were during competition or training.

According to Maron’s study, in prior years, there were 66 deaths per year.

But in 2021 and 2022, so far, cardiac disease has not been mentioned.

“Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy was mentioned twice, but those two reports were listed in the ‘not vax related’ list,” Good Sciencing notes.

https://goodsciencing.com/covi...ie-after-covid-shot/

“‘Enlarged heart’ was only mentioned three times, but there was no indication this was a long-term or recent issue (possibly due to vaccine injury).”

As of early August 2022, during 2021 and 2022 Good Sciencing has so far recorded 847 athlete deaths, with 46 in the month of July 2022 alone.

The report notes that the data shows a major spike after athletes had received their mandatory vaccinations for COVID-19.

The last full month of recorded data is for July this year and lists a total of 60 cases and 46 deaths.

More at link

This link has foot notes of the names and news sources to most of these deaths

https://goodsciencing.com/covi...ie-after-covid-shot/


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Just an observation here but...

I don't know anyone (and have not heard of anyone) who has gotten sick w/ COVID and recovered, thus having Natural Immunity, that has later gotten sick w/ COVID a second time,...


I got it in mid August 2020, ended up with double pneumonia (but I almost always get that with the flu as well), and I got the "Omicron" thingy in January 2022 and it was a very mild deal for a few days. (My brother tested positive two days after contact with me and had the same symptoms over the next couple of days, he also had the earlier version).

But I do believe the first has provided some immunity, same as the flu does.

My take has always been, if you are sick, isolate yourself from people and don't smear your germs all over things other's will come into contact.

Just be mindful of other people.

The rest of the Clown Show was, and has been, completely, unnecessary.




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My first infection was pre-vaccine and had pneumonia symptoms and this last time was flu like with a horrible headache.

THe first go round back in 2020 STILL has me with a cough that never went away.

The "booster" left me with permanent tinnitus.


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Fauci: ‘We Don’t Have Time’ to Run Clinical Trials for New Booster Shots

https://slaynews.com/news/fauc...ign=daily-newsletter

Democrat President Joe Biden’s chief medical advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci has claimed that federal health officials “don’t have time” to complete clinical trials before approving the latest COVID-19 booster shots for public use.

“We don’t have time to do a clinical trial because we need to get the vaccine out now,” Fauci said during an appearance on CBC this week.

Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), argues that 400 Americans are dying per day from COVID-19 and thousands of others are in hospitals with the disease.

The updated boosters, produced by pharmaceutical giants Pfizer and Moderna, were authorized for public use by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on August 31.

Following FDA authorization, the shots were subsequently recommended for virtually all Americans 12 and older by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Both booster shots contain elements of the BA.4 and BA.5 virus variants.

There is no human data available for the formulations.

Pfizer and Moderna presented data on preclinical testing.

This testing was only done on mice.

They also referenced human data for a different formulation, based on different strains of the virus.

More at link

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The early variants may not confer good natural immunity against Omicron, so those of us who had the original WuLabFlu shouldn't be shocked that we caught Omicron. The wife & I had the original in January 2020 and the Omicron this May.

The jabbed tend to get repeat infections more frequently, even of the same strain. The jabs are responsible for all the new strains, too.
 
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My company is still implementing testing prior to joining the vessel. However, only us unvaccinated crew members must test. Those who got the vaccine, boosted or not, don't need to test.

Anyone else see an incongruency here? Because apparently the geniuses who operate this company don't.


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My company is still implementing testing prior to joining the vessel. However, only us unvaccinated crew members must test. Those who got the vaccine, boosted or not, don't need to test.

Anyone else see an incongruency here? Because apparently the geniuses who operate this company don't.



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My company is still implementing testing prior to joining the vessel. However, only us unvaccinated crew members must test. Those who got the vaccine, boosted or not, don't need to test.
Anyone else see an incongruency here? Because apparently the geniuses who operate this company don't.

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KJP (The Whitehouse parrot) is promoting COVID vaccines every two months.




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Fear. Fear. Fear.

These cretin are not done with their money making venture and their poisoning of the worlds population with their AGAIN, untested, untrialed, unsafe snake oils.

As I’ve said, our house had Covid (most likely delta) last November. Our household is not “vaccinated”. Both my daughter and myself work at an outdoor company where we come into close contact with hundreds of people on a weekly basis. THOSE people obviously come into contact with people so the number of possible contacts by extension expands logarithmically. Last week, I learned that another employee that I interact with daily went down with Covid (he is of course “vaccinated”). Somehow, neither of us have contracted this “highly dangerous and transmissible disease”.

At this point, I don’t believe for a second that prior infection does not afford you protection from later variants. I believe it has fallen into the flu pattern at this point and infection will be inevitable. Especially if you have gotten the “vaccine”.

These criminals have found the perfect money making scheme and are in no itching hurry to give it up. Even while evidence from honest researchers show the “vaccines” are harming and killing people worldwide.




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They're doing everything they can to make sure the "Pandemic" never ends.


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At this point, I don’t believe for a second that prior infection does not afford you protection from later variants.


I agree with everything you wrote except the above, which is not a black/white situation.

Natural immunity is not perfect. The higher the exposure the more difficult it is for immunity to prevent illness. If you had the original strain or Delta, you have excellent immunity up through Delta, but those strains are essentially extinct. You have some immunity to Omicron but not excellent immunity.

The jabbed have poor immunity, even negative immunity, to all strains regardless of prior infection.

Chances are you've been exposed to Omicron and didn't know it. Few healthy un-jabbed get very ill. I had very mild allergy symptoms which I would have dismissed as nothing. My wife (jabbed) got pretty sick for 5 days. She gave me enough exposure that after 5 days I progressed to a mild fever and fatigue for a couple of days.
 
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My take has always been, if you are sick, isolate yourself from people and don't smear your germs all over things other's will come into contact.

Just be mindful of other people.
Ironically, I've been reminding my project teams of that very same thing....for the past 10-12 years, long before the onset of Covid. Its what used to be referred to as common sense and/or common courtesy.


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At this point, I don’t believe for a second that prior infection does not afford you protection from later variants.


I agree with everything you wrote except the above, which is not a black/white situation.

Natural immunity is not perfect. The higher the exposure the more difficult it is for immunity to prevent illness. If you had the original strain or Delta, you have excellent immunity up through Delta, but those strains are essentially extinct. You have some immunity to Omicron but not excellent immunity.

The jabbed have poor immunity, even negative immunity, to all strains regardless of prior infection.

Chances are you've been exposed to Omicron and didn't know it. Few healthy un-jabbed get very ill. I had very mild allergy symptoms which I would have dismissed as nothing. My wife (jabbed) got pretty sick for 5 days. She gave me enough exposure that after 5 days I progressed to a mild fever and fatigue for a couple of days.

At this point, I don’t believe a word the “experts” are spouting. I look at anecdotal, actual occurrences I can see on a daily basis- and what I see is vaccinated people getting the new variants whereas the unvaccinated, unwashed heathens such as myself are not. Literally EVERY single person I know that has caught omicron and beyond has been injected with snake oil. And as I have said, I should be a prime candidate for catching it due to my close and frequent contact with customers that in a logarithmic sense, numbers in the tens of thousands if not more. I will further add that at least 3 co-workers (all “vaccinated” of course) have caught the recent bug and been in indoor contact to include all manner of surface exposures as well.

I will posit another possibility; constant exposure to variants as they appear is what is affording we “unvaccinated” apparent protection from illness. I’m extrapolating that our immune systems are dealing with infection as nature intends. Our systems are dealing with new variants because they are looking for Covid and couldn’t give a rats ass what variant it is. It is, at its root, the Covid virus with mutations- but is still the basic viral signature. To compare the Covid scenario to the flu which is seasonally cyclical with seeming gaps between outbreak surges is comparing apples to oranges IMO because Covid does not appear to follow a seasonal game plan. It has been more or less a constant presence since it “appeared”. That is why I say untainted immune systems are dealing with it better. Ask around- how many of your “unvaccinated” friends, acquaintances, or co-workers that are untainted have been stuck in the Covid merry go round? I don’t personally know of a single person. Every last person I do know of has gotten the snake oil. I refuse to trust the word of any so called “professional” that still supports the concept of getting boosters that now need updating within as little as 2 months.

As to catching Omicron and beyond and not knowing it, I agree in a sense. I have more that likely been exposed, thereby “catching” latest variants, and not had a clue because my constantly evolving immune system is doing what it should- eradicating the constantly evolving virus. Food for thought.




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I’m extrapolating that our immune systems are dealing with infection as nature intends.

Yes...

Scientists from Harvard & Johns Hopkins Found Covid-19 Vaccines 98 Times Worse Than the Virus
This pre-print won't get any coverage in the mainstream media.

Here’s the paper, COVID-19 Vaccine Boosters for Young Adults: A Risk-Benefit Assessment and Five Ethical Arguments against Mandates at Universities.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/p...?abstract_id=4206070



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