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We've seen enough of the censorship and lies. Only fools would not be asking questions and demanding answers.


By speculating and posting links to each unexplained death that haven’t a single link to vaccines or COVID? Just that they died suddenly? That’s how you demand answers?

It’s morbid and ghoulish at best.




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^^^You certainly don't believe that they'd actually 'link' ANY of these 'unexplained deaths' to the COVID vaccine even if it were the likely cause, do you? I certainly don't...

Coincidentally, 'All Cause Mortality' is basically up 40% anywhere/everywhere they care to look at the numbers, and the timing of the increase directly correlates to the release of the COVID vaccine, so there's that.


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I guess the life insurance companies are full of bullshit too Roll Eyes

Who know's, maybe there are just crunching numbers to get their share of the vid relief funds. Wink



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Correlation is not causation, but absent other credible hypotheses one has to consider the totality of the situation.

Are there excess deaths? And if so, is there adequate information about serious adverse outcomes from the mRNA vaccines to suggest many of these unexpected (and unexplained) deaths of young and healthy adults could be vaccine related?

The answers are Yes, and Yes.

Consider this: Every single thing the authorities have said has been exactly backwards. Masks, hydroxychloriquine, Ivermectin, the vaccines are safe, the vaccines are effective, no boosters needed, one booster needed, boosters good for new variants, 2 weeks lockdown would flatten the curve, and on and on and on.

What are the chances the highly credentialed authorities would get everything exactly wrong?

And so what are the chances we are hearing the truth now about cause of death in these various individuals, or about excess deaths?
 
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I’ve been listening to Joe Rogan’s interview with journalist, Alex Berenson, this morning. If you watch Tucker, even irregularly, you’ve probably seen and heard Berenson, a voice in the wilderness during the COVID Pandemic. He is the only person to have successfully sued Twitter and is now posting again—completely vindicated. I’ve listened for an hour of the 3-hour podcast and there are many significant revelations, like the Biden Administration leveraging Twitter to ban Berenson, even though Twitter’s board didn’t feel like anything he posted warranted a ban.

JRE (Joe Rogan Experience) on Spotify. No charge to sign up and use the content.


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People die unexpectedly.

I can’t help but wonder as ghoulish as this thread has turned if some wouldn’t be pointing to their deaths as some political Point spread in the desperation to be right about some vaccine or other political maneuver. This thread started with bullshit over reporting of death for political gain, and I guess it will go out that way.

Yep. People die unexpectedly.
At a predictable rate. When the rate increases, shouldn't people ask why?

If the vaccines worked, wouldn't you expect all-cause mortality to drop rather than increase?

Here's more...
Young doctors in Canada are dying at a rate 23X normal after the second booster

The Canadian Medical Association (CMA) data for 2020 shows doctors in Canada aged 50 and under die at a rate of about 6 per year.

After the latest booster, 6 Canadian doctors, 50 and under, died within a 15 day period.

Something is very wrong here, but nobody wants to talk about it or look into it. They’d rather look the other way.

https://stevekirsch.substack.c...anada-are-dying-at-a



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If the vaccines worked, wouldn't you expect all-cause mortality to drop rather than increase?


Consider that the predominant C19 victims in 2020 were the elderly and very ill. Had C19 not happened, those people would have lived a bit longer and would now be in the window of expected death. IOW, many of those people would be expected to be dying now, and are therefore part of the baseline death rate.

But since they died 2 years ago (prior to the vaccines), the baseline expected number of present day deaths should be reduced by however many died "early" from C19.

Which means excess deaths are actually higher than it appears because the baseline has not been corrected.
 
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This author makes some good points.

"For example, much of what has happened throughout COVID-19 parallels the early days of the AIDS epidemic. Fauci fought to kept a variety of effective treatments for AIDS off the market so that he could push through a deadly and ineffective (but highly lucrative) drug to treat HIV, AZT (which oddly enough has much in common with Fauci’s recent pet project Remdesvir and the other COVID-19 medications). Once AZT entered the market, rather than end the epidemic, it significantly worsened the trajectory of AIDS (this book and this book provide the untold history of what happened, a that history allowed me, in late 2019, to predict the identical course that COVID-19 followed)."

The full article is long but worth reading: The Forgotten Side of Medicine
 
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Eight boosted mice: Critics pan FDA for preelection Omicron jab approval based on irrelevant data

https://justthenews.com/govern..._campaign=newsletter

Mainstream media have joined prominent doctors in questioning the FDA for its reliance on animal studies to approve so-called bivalent COVID-19 boosters for ages 12 and up, even as the shots are already being forced on low-risk, "fully vaccinated" populations such as college students.

Commissioner Robert Califf and Peter Marks, director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, said the FDA was using the same process for boosters combining ancestral and currently dominant Omicron BA.4/5 components that it follows for annual flu shots.

"This is the number one question people are asking," Califf said in a press conference Wednesday. The agency has "extensive experience in the past with strain changes made without clinical data based on the totality of available evidence," Marks said, citing flu vaccines.

The FDA didn't give Just the News access to the interactive Zoom feed to ask questions, just the one-way YouTube stream, and didn't answer requests for the evidence behind their claims.



Wake Forest University imposed the bivalent boosters nearly a month before their approval "to strengthen our community's collective immunity," with no exemption for even recently boosted community members. It hasn't yet decided whether to renew its flu vaccine mandate.

The Mercury News emphasized that bivalent booster "studies about efficacy, so far, have only been completed in mice." Eight mice in Pfizer's study "generated a 2.6-fold increase in neutralizing antibody levels" against BA.4/5 compared to its current booster, while "lab work" showed Moderna's caused an 8-fold increase.

Those figures were left out of the FDA's press release on its emergency use authorization of the two boosters, as was any mention that the "nonclinical data" came from animals.

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said the feds didn't have time to wait on human data. Otherwise, "we will be using what I would consider to be a potentially outdated vaccine" for an expected COVID surge, she told Conversations on Health Care.

This shows midterm elections are behind the rush to approve boosters, University of California San Francisco epidemiologist Vinay Prasad tweeted. Unless agencies are "firewalled" from politics, the feds will "approve anything to lower cases right before the vote" regardless of safety concerns.

Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis Chair Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), who successfully pressured the FDA to lower its standards for COVID vaccines for children under 5 this spring, issued a statement Wednesday celebrating the approval of bivalent boosters.

A week earlier, the subcommittee denounced the Trump administration for pressuring regulators to approve COVID vaccines ahead of the 2020 election. Spokesperson Graeme Crews didn't respond when asked how booster approval without human data on the eve of midterms was different.

Califf and Marks invoked their sister agency's new report on the second consecutive year of reduced life expectancy to justify bivalent booster approval.

"COVID was the main factor" in life expectancy falling from 77 years in 2020 to 76.1 years in 2021, according to Robert Anderson, chief of mortality statistics at CDC's National Center for Health Statistics, HealthDay reported. Other factors, including drug overdose and suicide, were "probably related to the pandemic, but not directly to the virus."

It's not clear bivalent boosters would reverse or mitigate that trend, however. The steepest drop in life expectancy was in the category "American Indian and Alaska Native," which fell 1.9 years to 65.2 in 2021.

AIAN has a higher booster rate than the black and Hispanic/Latino categories, according to the latest CDC data from Aug. 24. Black life expectancy declined 0.7 years to 70.8, and Hispanic/Latino 0.2 years to 77.6. Whites, whose booster rate is second only to the Asian category, lost a full year, to 76.4.

The FDA officials repeatedly invoked the prospect of rising hospitalizations and deaths without bivalent approval in the press conference. "We're not talking about trivial things," Califf said. Marks said he was hearing from doctors that pediatric hospitals are admitting more children while adult hospitalizations fall.

But the FDA isn't explicitly claiming the new boosters actually reduce severe outcomes. It cited clinical studies of each vaccine maker's Omicron BA.1 bivalent, which found "better ... immune response" from the bivalent than the single-strain booster. (Moderna's version was approved by the U.K. last month.)

While the agency claims BA.1 evidence is enough to approve BA.4/5 boosters "because these vaccines are manufactured using the same process," Prasad said this was like equating pizza and cake because they are made "in the same oven."

The agency's reliance on antibody response isn't echoed by Pfizer, whose vaccine R&D chief told the agency's outside advisers last year that it hadn't found an "antibody threshold" for breakthrough infections. Kathrin Jansen said there's "probably a much more complex story and not easily just addressed with neutralizing antibodies."



The agency shut out the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee this time, with Califf explaining that VRBPAC approved bivalent boosters in theory in June. The Mercury News reported that VRBPAC member Paul Offit of Children's Hospital of Philadelphia disapproved of mouse-only data. He didn't answer Just the News queries.

"Americans deserve to see the data," Johns Hopkins medical professor and National Academy of Science member Marty Makary tweeted, asking why the White House and COVID adviser Ashish Jha are "pushing [bivalent boosters] so hard & universally w/o public data?"

"How did we go from 40k person [randomized controlled trials] to 8 mice," which is too small to determine whether the new boosters reduce or worsen the heart inflammation side effect from current vaccines, Prasad tweeted.

Califf and Marks said the risk of myocarditis prompted them to choose a two-month window between doses. Young people, who are at highest risk of the side effect, shouldn't wait longer because they need to "refresh the immune system with what's actually circulating," and the booster can "probably reduce by more than half their risk of long COVID," Marks said.


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Ivermectin: The Truth is an amazing film, less than 15 minutes long! I highly recommend this film. Watch it and share it.

Pierre Kory, Paul Marik, Peter McCullough, Robert Malone, Chris Martenson, Richard Bartlett, and Mike Yeadon all appear.

https://stevekirsch.substack.c...ctin-video-is-a-must

Ivermectin: The Truth




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Okay, that just totally pissed me off, again. Nothing really new but man does it piss it me off.

The left is completely bereft of integrity. We, as people, have obviously learned nothing from the nazi experience and being 'commanded' to do something. The left calls us nazis and yet here we are.


I just don't understand. The populace of the left, not those in charge, talk about things like equity, goodness for people, saving the children, kumbaya, idealist socialist constructs. And yet they support the fascist corrupt elite who would just gather power and money and hoard it for the select few.

I don't understand. I'm mean, if you're going to be stupid, at least do it so that it makes sense.




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^^^Mass Formation Psychosis...


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^^^Mass Formation Psychosis...


I have posted this in the past.




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Interesting. So, seems like the cycles leading to the mass psychosis has been going on for a long time.

Fear events like regular periods of war (WWII, cold war, cultural revolution, korean war, vietnam war, mideast war, ...) and health events (SARS, AIDs, ebola, cancer, Covid, ...), and fiscal events (IMF, recessions, oil shortages, housing mkt crashes, ...).

Sounds like the video is suggesting that we need a physical base for freedom and rational thought that is opposed to the masses. A beacon so to speak.

We need a 'red' region - unequivocally dominated by the red - dispersed islands will not be effective. If this is true, where will it be and when will it form? Until then, seems like it will be an endless battle....?




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Physicians (not American, of course) find vaccine-generated coronavirus spike protein in skin lesions, months after vaccination

https://alexberenson.substack....-the-gift-that-keeps

Remember when the Centers for Disease Control told you the mRNA in Covid vaccines didn’t last long in your cells?

Remember when fact-checkers at Reuters told you the coronavirus spike protein the vaccines make you produce isn’t dangerous?



About that.

The CDC has now quietly removed its promise that your body “breaks down and gets rid of the mRNA soon after it is finished” with initially making spike protein.

(Original CDC language on the Wayback Machine here; current CDC position, as of July 15, here)

Meanwhile, scientists keep piling up evidence that the spike protein remains in the body for months, at least, and is far from benign.

The most recent finding comes from Japanese physicians reporting on a 64-year-old who developed persistent and painful skin lesions days after receiving the Pfizer/BioNTech mRNA vaccine.

The doctors found the patient had varicella-zoster virus, which causes chickenpox. They treated him with 1 gram daily of valacyclovir, commonly used against herpes viruses, but found it only marginally effective. Raising the dosage to 3 grams a day ultimately defeated the lesions.

The physicians then decided that they should examine the lesions for evidence of spike protein, because the patient had become sick so soon after being vaccinated.

In taking this step, they deviated wildly from standard American medical procedure, which is to deny that mRNA shots can possibly cause any side effect.

And when the Japanese physicians looked for spike protein in the lesions… they found it:

Immunostaining with anti-coronavirus spike protein (SP) antibody revealed the SP expression in the intravesicular cells in the epidermis and endothelial cells of the inflamed vessels in the dermis… In addition, the SP was also found in the endothelial cells of venules in the subcutaneous fat tissue underlying the herpetic vasculitis lesion.



The physicians speculate - as other researchers have - that in chemically modifying the mRNA in their shots to make it harder for the immune system to destroy, Pfizer and Moderna may have produced a zombie vaccine that will not die.

No, that wasn’t exactly how they put it, but it’s what they meant:

A plausible hypothesis was that the stabilization of RNA by substituting methyl-pseudouridine for all the uridine nucleotides for BNT162b2 might result in long-time pro-duction of the encoded SP from any cells.

The potential persistence of vaccine mRNA and the spike protein it produces is particularly relevant as more and more jabbed patients report autoimmune crises such as unexpectedly developing Type 1 diabetes (generally diagnosed in childhood) shortly following vaccination.

But physicians cannot find what they won’t seek. Fortunately, international researchers appear to be willing to ask questions American physicians will not.



Link to study and more information:

Persistent varicella zoster virus infection following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination was associated with the presence of encoded spike protein in the lesion

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.co...f/10.1002/cia2.12278


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19-year-old Canadian hockey player dies after collapsing during game

Toronto Sun journalist Joe Warmington noted on social media that the hockey league in which the young man played had mandated the COVID-19 vaccine last year.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/n...ly-canada-2022-09-02

AYR, Ontario (LifeSiteNews) — Another tragic death occurred in Canada on Tuesday when a 19-year-old hockey captain collapsed and passed away mid-game, sparking many online to question whether the league’s vaccine mandate played a role.

According to the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, 19-year-old Eli Palfreyman, captain of the Ayr Centennials of the Greater Ontario Junior Hockey League, passed away suddenly during an intermission of a preseason game on Tuesday.

Centennials vice president Brian Shantz responded to the tragedy by relaying that the team is “devastated,” and asked “for your prayers and support for Eli’s family and each of our players.”

According to an account of the young player’s death, it was during the intermission between the second and third period of the game when Palfreyman collapsed in the locker room, prompting those around him to jump in and give immediate medical attention.

Sadly, even with the quick response, the young man passed away.

While a cause of death has not been released, Palfreyman being one of multiple sudden deaths among relatively young Canadians has led to speculation about whether the experimental COVID-19 vaccines played a role.

Prominent Toronto Sun journalist Joe Warmington noted on social media that the GOJHL, like many other sports leagues in Canada, required all players to be “fully vaccinated” against COVID last year, despite the fact that young men in particular are at minimal risk of serious outcomes due to the virus while being at heightened risk of severe adverse events such as myocarditis from the jabs.

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— Joe Warmington (@joe_warmington) August 31, 2022

Warmington also reminded his social media followers that this time last year a young University of Ottawa football player met a similar fate as Palfreyman, dying suddenly

LifeSiteNews has likewise produced reports of other relatively young Canadians dying during or following physical activity, including a 50-year-old doctor who died while running and a 27-year-old pediatrician who died after collapsing during a triathlon.

While mainstream media and health authorities have largely ignored such events, many other doctors have been sounding the alarm about the safety of the novel mRNA jabs since their rollout.

Dr. Michael Palmer, a certified medical doctor and microbiologist, told LifeSiteNews last year that his opposition to the COVID vaccines is “not in spite of [his] medical education, but BECAUSE of it.”

“There is just no way that any competent medical scientist who makes an honest effort to himself could not see that these vaccines – in particular the mRNA vaccines, which are touted as ‘the safe choice’ – will cause grave harm, and with a sufficient number of cumulative doses certain death,” the doctor explained.

It is also noteworthy that despite the shots having “approval” from the likes of Health Canada, all currently available COVID-19 vaccines are experimental, with clinical trials not set for completion until 2023.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2...368728&draw=2&rank=1


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19-year-old Canadian hockey player dies after collapsing during game



Nothing to see here. All perfectly Normal.


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Balzé Halzé,

I remember reading about Rab Wardell, 37-year-old champion cyclist. A real tragedy. Frown
All any of us are asking for is an honest investigation into reports like this but the silence from the MSM/Doctors/etc. is deafening.


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National Institutes Of Health Adds Ivermectin To COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines

https://www.publishedreporter....reatment-guidelines/

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has reportedly added the controversial antiparasitic drug Ivermectin to their COVID-19 treatment guidelines list; the drug had been adopted early in the pandemic as an alternative treatment to the virus, although its use by the greater medical community was greatly lambasted, who said that it had no real effect and, in some forms and doses, could be harmful to humans.

The NIH’s research into Ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment option was initially publicized by Josh Barnett, a Republican who ran for election to the U.S. House to represent Arizona’s 1st Congressional District; however, he lost the primary on August 2, 2022.

Barnett issued a tweet on August 31, revealing that Ivermectin was now listed on the NIH’s COVID website – under a section titled “Outpatient Repurposed Drugs” – where it is currently stated to be in “Phase 3” of trial tests.

https://www.covid19treatmentgu...s/antiviral-therapy/





And a new large observational study out of Brazil:


Ivermectin Lowers Chance of COVID Death by 92%, Study Shows

https://slaynews.com/news/iver...ign=daily-newsletter

A major new study on the use of ivermectin as prophylaxis for COVID-19 has found that the drug lowers the chance of death in patients by up to 92%.

The large study, led by renowned Brazilian research scientist Dr. Flavio A. Cadegiani, found that regular users of ivermectin experienced a huge reduction in mortality compared to those who did not.

In a post on Twitter, Cadegiani announced that his study shows a “dose-response effect,” meaning that “the more you used, the more protection you had.”

Cadegiani observed that people who use ivermectin regularly every 15 days for at least six to eight weeks had up to a 92% reduction in mortality.

Last fall, esteemed epidemiologist Dr. Harvey Risch of Yale Medical School was among scientists and physicians who said in Senate testimony that thousands of lives could have been saved if treatments such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine had not been suppressed.

Link to study:

https://www.cureus.com/article...expedited_modal=true

Regular Use of Ivermectin as Prophylaxis for COVID-19 Led Up to a 92% Reduction in COVID-19 Mortality Rate in a Dose-Response Manner: Results of a Prospective Observational Study of a Strictly Controlled Population of 88,012 Subjects


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Unbelievable.




 
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