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The narrative is falling apart, piece by piece


The narrative fell apart long ago for many of us; the additional data is supplemental, not influential.

For the sheep, data is ignored, or the narrative is accepted carte blanche. Existing data / new data is not influential. Only the narrative (what .gov is telling people) matters.

On the presumption that the left is still pursuing riches and power, where is the narrative moving to?




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On the presumption that the left is still pursuing riches and power, where is the narrative moving to?

They have shifted their focus towards 'voting rights', or stealing the next election.

Expect Fauci to retire this year
America's (most political) Doctor knows which way the wind is blowing

https://alexberenson.substack....-to-retire-this-year



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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On the presumption that the left is still pursuing riches and power, where is the narrative moving to?

They have shifted their focus towards 'voting rights', or stealing the next election.


Please note that I'm neither trying to be argumentative with you nor seeking answers from you specifically. It's just your posts trigger some questions that makes me wonder about some things.

I agree that they are focused on voting and elections but that's been the case for awhile. That just assures they stay in office and not necessarily add to riches or power. The pandemic was an exercise in power and control. They will likely not give up any gains they have made, rather try to maintain and/or extend from here.

One wonders what approach they will take from now.

ETA: Fauci shouldn't retire - he should be tried for crimes against humanity.




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"A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book
 
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Starbucks scraps "vaccine" mandate...

https://www.dailywire.com/news...%22Facebook%22%7D%7D

Doesn't matter. That place is still on my "DO NOT ENTER" list...


That's easy for you to say - you're not a homeless meth-head that needs to use the bathroom there. Big Grin
 
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^^^But you ARE vaccinated...

Is your employer requiring testing for everyone, because if so, they should pay for it. And if testing is mandated, then EVERYONE should be tested, not just the Unvaccinated...The 'science' (and all existing data!) clearly indicates that the Vaccinated are just as likely (if not more likely) to become infected and transmit the Coronavirus!


I am vaccinated, but I don't plan on giving them my medical records whether demanded by fed.gov or my employer.

I don't believe in the mandate, so I will not play their little game. I'll wait til they put in writing they will fire me, then I will get tested weekly.

As far as I know every single person except maybe one (1/3 our staff) in the last few months that got it were all vaccinated. Some caught it multiple times after injection/infection.



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Wow, England and now Sweden? Is the insanity starting to come to an end?


It seems good but I'm skeptical - feels like something is up.....


In the case of the UK, it's a desperate Prime Minister trying to not get thrown out of office.


This is his Hail Mary

Not sure it works, people over there are very angry about this whole Partygate debacle.


 
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The Narrative is Crumbling - 16 Reasons Why




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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^^^But you ARE vaccinated...

Is your employer requiring testing for everyone, because if so, they should pay for it. And if testing is mandated, then EVERYONE should be tested, not just the Unvaccinated...The 'science' (and all existing data!) clearly indicates that the Vaccinated are just as likely (if not more likely) to become infected and transmit the Coronavirus!

I am vaccinated, but I don't plan on giving them my medical records whether demanded by fed.gov or my employer.

I don't believe in the mandate, so I will not play their little game. I'll wait til they put in writing they will fire me, then I will get tested weekly.

As far as I know every single person except maybe one (1/3 our staff) in the last few months that got it were all vaccinated. Some caught it multiple times after injection/infection.

Fair enough...I thought you had already received the ultimatum on providing proof of vaccination, and assumed you'd complied against your will.

I know you had been considering non-compliance at the threat of your employment, but seem to recall you had reconsidered as it wasn't worth it to lose your job considering you had gotten 'injected' by your own choice.

Nevermind... Wink


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Wow, England and now Sweden? Is the insanity starting to come to an end?


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Thanks to Chris Stigall:


Federal government:

“FREE masks! FREE tests! FREE shots!”

Taxpayers:



Link


 
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Does anyone know the shelf life and required storage conditions for the at home test?



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^^^The COVID Test Kits I received in Mid-December from the State of NH indicate the following:

Manufacture Date: 10/7/21
Use Before/Expiration Date: 9/17/23
Storage Conditions: 59-86 Degrees F (15-30 Degrees C)


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The virus will mutate until it is virtually a light cold.

Our family’s experience would indicate it’s already there. Mrs. sloaig had light cold symptoms for 10 days. Son, daughter, and I had very light cold symptoms for a day or two. My comment was that this is the wimpiest cold I have ever had. Son’s comment was, “If this what we shut the world down for, we’ve completely lost our minds.”

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^^^Do you know for sure it was COVID/Omicron? Were any of you tested? I could have been a 'light cold'...They're still out there you know Wink


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by chellim1:
The narrative is falling apart, piece by piece

More on the subject.

STORY AT-A-GLANCE -
As noted by Dr. Ron Paul in the January 10, 2022, Liberty Report above, U.S. authorities
have suddenly started to change their tune with regard to COVID and the COVID shots.
Pandemic Narrative Undergoes Radical U-Turn
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola  Fact Checked
 In recent days, the pandemic narrative has undergone a remarkable number of U-turns
January 9, 2022, CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky sent out a tweet saying “We must
protect people with comorbidities from severe COVID-19,” in other words, focused
protection, which is what tens of thousands of doctors have been calling for since the
creation of The Great Barrington Declaration in early October 2020

 January 10, 2022, Walensky admitted that the COVID shots cannot prevent transmission
The CDC is now saying you should not retest once you’ve recovered from COVID, as the
PCR can provide false positives for up to 12 weeks after the infection has been resolved.
They’re also cutting the isolation requirement from 10 to just five days — probably
because the failing economy is hurting Biden’s approval rating so they need people to
work

The narrative is also changing on what makes for a COVID case and how deaths are
counted. Walensky recently admitted about 40% of “COVID patients” tested positive but
do not have symptoms and are hospitalized for something else. She has also promised to
deliver data on how many people have actually died “from” COVID and how many died
“with” it

https://articles.mercola.com/s...-radical-u-turn.aspx
 
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^^^The COVID Test Kits I received in Mid-December from the State of NH indicate the following:

Manufacture Date: 10/7/21
Use Before/Expiration Date: 9/17/23
Storage Conditions: 59-86 Degrees F (15-30 Degrees C)


15 minuets to get an answer...
Thanks nhracecraft

Thats is much better than I expected.



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More indication that as long as the Fauci types are in control, this fearmongering and imminent death narrative will continue:

As COVID Cases Plunge Across America, 'Models' Are Once Again Warning Of Imminent Deathmageddon


 
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^^^Do you know for sure it was COVID/Omicron? Were any of you tested? I could have been a 'light cold'...They're still out there you know Wink

When SIL called to say her eldest had tested positive the morning after we came home from visiting we ran out and bought Binax Now tests. Son tested positive, the rest negative. Daughter popped a fever that night and quarantined for ten days (her school requirement at that time). She never retested. Son quarantined for ten days w/ no retest also because he didn’t want to wear an N95 mask. Mrs. slosig and I had some symptoms the next day (makes sense, less contact with the nephew than the kids who spent a bit of time in a room with the cousins playing video games, but then we spent two hours in the car with our kids). Per the direction of the lady at the kids school who stays on top of what the local requirements are, I quarantined for five days then tested with the Binax Now again (negative) and was legit to go about my business with an N95 mask. I’d have just quarantined for ten days, but I had some meeting it was better not to miss. The quarantine time sure was peaceful though… Mrs. slosig tested positive on day eight and day nine of her quarantine.

Is it possible that the daughter and I had a different cold and the son and wife had Covid? Sure. Not the most likely, but possible. Is it possible that the tests. Were wrong and none of us had Covid? Sure, but from what I’ve read it is false negatives rather than false positives that are the usual problems, and supposedly the Binax Now test catches 93% of the positives. I believe with a high level of confidence that we all had Covid. Because it was so wimpy, I assume it must have been Omicron, but who knows.

Other interesting tidbits:

The SIL and the nephew who we believe shared it with us are vaccinated, none of us are. The SIL and nephew had a harder time of it than I or the kids.

While I took quercitin (500mg) and zinc (30mg) three times a day and vitamin D3 (10,000iu) once a day based on some of the information I learned in this thread, the lovely bride read the labels and took the same zinc and quercitin twice a day and the D3 only once every three days. I don’t if this contributed to her taking longer to kick it or not.
 
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Omicron is causing the Delta variant to disappear. Omicron is less pathogenic. The liars, propagandists, genuinely stupid bureaucrats and the drug companies will draw it out for as long as they can (and end up revealing themselves to all but the most dull-witted among us) but light is beginning to appear at the end of the tunnel.

 
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Why the vaccines don't work

A recent article introduced the term "negative efficacy" regarding COVID vaccines and implied that this reaction explains why more vaccinated than unvaccinated people are getting sick with COVID. A non-Google search turned up several articles about negative efficacy that confirmed the claim with more details. The most detailed article made the following points:

It [negative efficacy] doesn't mean the protection wears off (like we were told). It means the OPPOSITE of what you were told: it means the vaccines helps the virus to infect you (by suppressing your immune system, probably permanently each time we are injected according to Dr. Ryan Cole).

In short, we've been lied to about the vaccine. It is protecting you less and less over time. While you may get a benefit for earlier variants, the benefit for other variants (and likely other diseases) is going to be negative. In short, you are getting a short term benefit against Delta, but at the expense of a degradation of your overall immunity to everything else.

To test the above hypothesis, trend data from Our World in Data was used to compare five different countries. For simplicity, I focused only on the vax rate, the number of new cases, and confirmed COVID deaths. The U.S. was selected for obvious reasons followed by the U.K. because it had somewhat stricter lockdowns like most of Europe. Australia was added because of the intensity of its lockdowns, mask, and vax mandates. Admittedly, Australia did have success using these tyrannical police state methods to minimize the damage from COVID at least until now.

Sweden is there because of its notoriously minimal lockdowns followed by praise for its success in achieving natural herd immunity well before any other Western country. India was added because it alone appears to have tamed COVID from day one by using common, inexpensive therapeutics in its early outpatient protocols (notably hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin) and much less reliance on vaccines. Except for one surge in hospitalizations and deaths due to the emergence of the delta variant, India has experienced far fewer total deaths relative to its population.

Vaccination Rates: Notice that Australia and Sweden now rank highest, although both started their vax campaigns much later than either the U.S or the U.K., while India arrived very late to the vax party.

Daily New Confirmed COVID Cases: Things are looking grim for the start of 2022! However, we know that much more testing is being done now and this could partially explain the surge. Note that only India with its lower vax rate has not skyrocketed with new cases, but likely tests less. Of interest, the three countries with the highest vax rates also surged up the most with Australia exploding past all.

Daily New Confirmed COVID Deaths: Obviously, deaths are the most important metric and will lag behind new cases by at least two weeks and sometimes a month or more. However, notice that COVID deaths in every country except India have spiked upward almost in unison. You can continue to monitor the same daily death rates here.

Some Key Takeaways:

1. The more contagious, but far less deadly omicron variant plus more frequent testing are likely driving cases up. However, the totally unexpected increase in deaths is concerning. The winter season may explain some of it, except Australia, where it is their summer.
2. These data confirm that the countries with high vax and booster rates correlate with the Jan. 2022 increase in cases and deaths. This confirms that the most likely cause is the claimed negative efficacy effect from the overuse of the original vaccines. In other words, the original vaccines are now causing more harm than good.
3. Sweden's herd immunity success is now busted, likely because of its belated decision to force vaccinations when almost everyone there was already protected by natural immunity.
4. Australia's unexpected surge in cases and deaths suggests that its draconian lockdowns and other mandates have delayed COVID but totally failed to keep it away. Costly universal lockdowns, regardless of how extreme, serve only to delay the inevitable.
5. Only India's exceptionally low death rate is unaffected at least so far, but its climbing vax rate, if continued, is a concern.
6. The world needs to immediately cease relying on the original vaccines and learn to live with the virus. For people infected, follow India's example by approving the emergency use of similar early-treatment therapeutics to stop the progression of the disease before it can reach the stage resulting in hospitalization or death.
7. Obviously, more in-depth research by professional immunologists with much more expertise than mine will be required to confirm these findings.

Let's face it. The virus has reached the stage where it is endemic and will be with us forever, just like the related common cold and seasonal flu. It's time for us to resume living our lives without the continual government fear-mongering, virtue-signaling, and freedom-robbing COVID mandates.

https://www.americanthinker.co...cines_dont_work.html



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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