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Hillary’s long goodbye
By Thomas Lifson

I must be an awful human being, because I am reveling in the déjà vu Hillary Clinton must be experiencing, as her presidential campaign appears to be heading toward collapse. And this time, the humiliation – and peril – is far greater than anything 2008 dealt her. To state the obvious, her longstanding preference for pantsuits is one thing, but the orange jumpsuits of a federal penitentiary are quite something else.

I realize I am getting way ahead of myself here, that predictions are always risky – especially about the future, as Yogi Berra reminded us. We don’t yet know if there will be a criminal referral from the FBI, though the D.C. rumor mill is operating at full steam, averring that 50 more FBI special agents have been added to the case, making the total team well into triple digits. That the FBI would devote that level of resources to the case suggests that they are tying up any possible loose ends, to have an airtight cases presented to Loretta Lynch. (More on this later.)

Potential legal peril aside for the moment, the humiliations she faces are daunting for a woman of her arrogance. Her husband’s penchant for illicit sex with women far younger and more attractive is once again being thrown in her face, and this time the trusty old injured wife gambit not only doesn’t work, but is being used against her, painting her as an enabler of a sexual abuser.

Back in the impeachment days, she could count on the mainstream media to keep a lid on negative information and portray her husband’s accusers and investigators as a bunch of sex-obsessed prudes. Not only have the internet and cable news forever destroyed the cofferdam around embarrassing news these days, but substantial chunks of the mainstream media no longer see themselves as guardians of the Clinton empire. For one thing, a Democrat president is not being threatened with removal from office. For another, she is not the only game in town. Just as in 2008 they could abandon her for a younger member of a minority, one who was a far more skillful campaigner, now they have the elderly Bernie Sanders carrying the actual torch of socialism, and drawing enthusiastic crowds.

And then there is the small matter of all the knives in the hands of members of her own party that have been sheathed all these decades since she and Bill first entered the White House as tenants. She has made a lot of enemies over the years, snubbing some, ignoring others, and behaving with the arrogance and self-centeredness that has been a visible part of her character ever since she entered pubic life. There is a struggle underway for the future of the Democratic Party between the Obama faction and the Clinton faction. When she appeared inevitable, an uneasy truce prevailed. But if she may be tied up with a criminal defense case, that would solve a lot of problems for the Obama-ites.

That is something to ponder as we await a possible criminal referral to the Department of Justice and A.G. Lynch’s response.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden very publicly “regrets every day” his decision not to run for president.

If, as speculated, Elizabeth Warren were to align herself with a Biden candidacy, perhaps as the veep nominee, it would palliate the socialist Sanders supporters.

The old certitudes about the Clintons have crumbled. Bill no longer is a vibrant, likable, vigorous exponent of hope; he is instead a hollow shell, a creepy degenerate who reminds us of our own mortality after heart bypass operations and drastic weight loss.

I am convinced that the greatest prize of all for Hillary was not Air Force One or the other perks; it was going to be the ability to put Bill in his place. After Hillarycare crashed and burned, she was removed from the co-presidency she believed she had won, fair and square. And it had to rankle. There must have been a moment when he reminded her that his name, and his name alone, appeared on the ballot, and that his decision was final.

Oh, how she must have looked forward to pulling rank on the first gentleman!

That dream is slowly crashing and burning. Even without a criminal referral or indictment, Hillary’s chances are fading fast. Sanders looks as though he may sweep Iowa and New Hampshire. Once that happens, it is 2008 all over again. The Democrat establishment may not want Sanders on the ticket, but they are fully capable of drafting Biden, Warren, Booker, or another Dem, and then changing the convention rules to nominate whomever they want. But I doubt that will be necessary. The gears of the FBI are turning faster and faster. Policy requires that if a politician be accused of wrongdoing, it be done as long before an election as possible.

Time is not on Hillary’s side.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com...e.html#ixzz3xEg6pQ4m



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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I think I need a tissue. No wait. No I dont.


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Meanwhile, Joe Biden very publicly “regrets every day” his decision not to run for president.
Goddamn, you are one stupid man, Joe. Check your calendar, please. Maybe you'll notice that the election is still months away. Roll Eyes
 
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"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב!
 
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The gift that keeps on giving.

State Department discovers 'thousands' of previously undisclosed Clinton documents

The Department of State recently discovered “thousands” of previously unreviewed documents that relate to Hillary Clinton and the Benghazi attack, according to a watchdog group that has been suing the department to release public records from Clinton’s tenure.

The State Department disclosed the existence of the additional records in a court filing on Friday and asked the judge for further time to search and review the documents.

The watchdog group Judicial Watch has been suing the State Department for years to turn over public records related to Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state, the Clinton Foundation, the employment arrangements of Clinton’s top aides, and her response to the Benghazi attack.

According to the State Department, the newly found records are likely to include information relevant to Judicial Watch’s requests. Officials said they would need until at least Feb. 1 to review the documents.

“After State filed its motion for summary judgment in this case [on November 11, 2015], State located additional sources of documents that originated within the Office of the Secretary that are reasonably likely to contain records responsive to Plaintiff’s request,” said the State Department’s attorneys in a court filing.

A judge ordered the State Department to turn over public records after Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit against the department in September 2013. The case was reopened last year after it was reported that Clinton’s emails, which were sent over a personal email server, had not been searched.



http://www.foxnews.com/politic...inton-documents.html
 
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Reap it, bitch.
 
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So is she just delusional in continuing her campaign, thinking none of this will stick and preclude her from being eligible? Or is she just a Clinton and convinced that nothing will stick to her, like all the past scandals she's been involved in?

I would think any rational person would drop out of the race and devote their energy to being prepared for defense of these very serious charges that she will most likely be facing.
 
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You must be a nice guy, Kadin, because you don't seem to have the ability to think like this evil bitch Hillary.

As we say down in my neck of the woods- rattlesnakes don't commit suicide.
 
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Vast right wing conspiracy. That is what she believes it is. She thinks she's the smartest person on the planet and any "unsavory" things she's done to get herself into a position of leadership are justified. Dealing with confidential/secret information appropriately was a waste of her time. Time she could better spend making sure she would ascend into a position to lead the rest of us lower IQ folk - her destiny. Secure e-mail system - "ain't nobody got time for that!" I mean, what else could it be but that attitude - or something very close to it. As much as I despise her - she is not exactly stupid. She is smart enough to know that it was illegal. She simply assumed she was above it.
 
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I would think any rational person would drop out of the race and devote their energy to being prepared for defense of these very serious charges that she will most likely be facing.


There is a very large assumption in this statement! A rational person would not have set-up her own unsecure server. A rational person would not have discussed the Clinton Slush fund on the same sever w/government business.

I could continue but it's not necessary.

I do not think this miserable bitch is rational, nor is she the 'smartest women in the world'.

Thinking like a Rattlesnake, she assumes that she can strike as pleased and never suffer the consequences.

In fact she still assumes that she can pull this off, based upon her low regard for the rest of humanity.
 
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Vast right wing conspiracy. That is what she believes it is.
No, I don't believe that. She knows she has acted criminally, and for years. She simply never expected to get caught. Conspiracy? No, she knows that the Right hates her (and with good reason), and she knows she would experience the same glee as we are, if the situation were reversed with say, Trump, for instance. In public, she'll stick to the script and say that shit about a "conspiracy", but she knows. She's been the one committing these criminal acts. She knows.
 
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More and more it begins to become documented and reported. I still don't believe she's going to jail or likely to be even indicted but it could very likely cost her the nomination.
Lots of Clinton soldiers are going to be littering the field before it's all over.

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thousands of emails made public by the State Department between May of last year and Friday indicate donors to the Clinton Foundation were often given personal meetings, generous contracts or special consideration that was seemingly not afforded to the same number of private groups that had not written checks to the charity.

The allegations that sparked the reported probe, which the FBI has yet to confirm or deny, focus simply on whether the State Department extended preferential treatment to Clinton Foundation contributors.

Below are nine examples of the type of State Department access Clinton granted to her foundation's top donors, as told by the private emails that have been made public so far by the agency.


The 9 examples


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
 
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Al Capone couldn't understand why the government hated him, persecuted him. He considered himself a public benefactor, and so did a great many people who benefited from his "businesses" supplying booze during Prohibition, various entertainments, and even feeding the needy in the Depression.

Self justification is one of the most powerful forces affecting human beings.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The 13 hour movie is coming out soon, about the Libya killings, should be interesting to see how they handle this with Clinton & Obama.

This is going to be all about what happened on the ground at the consulate I'd be surprised if it even mentions Hillary.
Maybe someone here has read the book and give us a insight as to how the book handled it.
But we know hollywood will play loosely with the book particularly if it deals negatively with Hillary.

I would like to see Trump use these parents in political ads targeting Hillary. The parents have been on Fox several times so they are not against getting their message out publicly.
I think it would be very effective.
Same with all of Bills sexual assault victims.
They should all get the podium at the RNC convention.

The movie clearly establishes that a stand down order was issued. All that needs to be done is find the genesis of that order. follow up the chain of command until someone takes the fall or the finger gets pointed to the right top official. Someone gave that order. Who was it?

Pardon me if I missed or have forgotten a key part (perhaps exposed by my question): but is that necessarily how it went down?

IIRC, a "stand down" order wouldn't just be given out of the blue, as it's just an official "no, don't do that/anything" order, and one that usually follows having been officially in some ready-state or having asked permission to do xyz (or q more colloquial "everybody chill the fuck out" statement.

Was there such an official ready-state ongoing at the time, or a formal request to engage/etc, that would have necessitated an approval or stand-down in the first place?

Because I think, short of some alert-status/ready-state/request, expecting a "stand down" of the sort you describe would not be consistent with how much t works.

Or maybe I'm just mistaken altogether. But that's my question.
 
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Hillary Clinton's national lead is slipping faster in 2016 than it did in 2008
https://www.washingtonpost.com...2797671124&tid=ss_tw



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Originally posted by 46and2:
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Originally posted by darthfuster:
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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
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Originally posted by nighthawk:
The 13 hour movie is coming out soon, about the Libya killings, should be interesting to see how they handle this with Clinton & Obama.

This is going to be all about what happened on the ground at the consulate I'd be surprised if it even mentions Hillary.
Maybe someone here has read the book and give us a insight as to how the book handled it.
But we know hollywood will play loosely with the book particularly if it deals negatively with Hillary.

I would like to see Trump use these parents in political ads targeting Hillary. The parents have been on Fox several times so they are not against getting their message out publicly.
I think it would be very effective.
Same with all of Bills sexual assault victims.
They should all get the podium at the RNC convention.

The movie clearly establishes that a stand down order was issued. All that needs to be done is find the genesis of that order. follow up the chain of command until someone takes the fall or the finger gets pointed to the right top official. Someone gave that order. Who was it?

Pardon me if I missed or have forgotten a key part (perhaps exposed by my question): but is that necessarily how it went down?

IIRC, a "stand down" order wouldn't just be given out of the blue, as it's just an official "no, don't do that/anything" order, and one that usually follows having been officially in some ready-state or having asked permission to do xyz (or q more colloquial "everybody chill the fuck out" statement.

Was there such an official ready-state ongoing at the time, or a formal request to engage/etc, that would have necessitated an approval or stand-down in the first place?

Because I think, short of some alert-status/ready-state/request, expecting a "stand down" of the sort you describe would not be consistent with how much t works.

Or maybe I'm just mistaken altogether. But that's my question.


The operators involved were being interviewed by someone(I forget exactly who) on the radio. I heard them say we were told twice to pause and once to stand down.



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her presidential campaign appears to be heading toward collapse

if only
 
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Meanwhile, Joe Biden very publicly “regrets every day” his decision not to run for president.
Goddamn, you are one stupid man, Joe. Check your calendar, please. Maybe you'll notice that the election is still months away. Roll Eyes

Smoke and mirrors. I say he's in the bull pen warming up.


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in no-limit poker parlance: she's played very loosely and aggressively, bluffed with the lowly 7-2 offsuit, is all-in / pot-committed, and is doing her best to keep a straight face, hoping her opposition doesn't have the nuts and everyone folds out of fear/intimidation.

she can't reveal she's bluffing now, not at the final table during the WSOP, it's not even heads up yet.

surely she will ride this out until either the DNC pushes her aside, or she's charged - finally caught with cards up her pantsuit's sleeve. but she knows she's flirting with disaster, and is surely sweating non-lethal bullets underneath the polyester.

I doubt Lynch will charge her, ultimately, and suspect the recent smoking gun will be dismissed on the technicality she inferred by saying - "no, we only meant the stuff that was ok", because that's the lawyerly weaselly world she and they live in. perhaps, and hopefully enough to scuttle her nomination, but my lack of faith in the honesty of such things at such high levels is exceptionally low.
 
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I suspect that getting elected is Hill's only salvation. She most likely will not step down voluntarily.
 
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