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I have not felt this way since the day Chief Justice Roberts twisted logic and truth to come to the conclusion that ObamaCare was a tax and therefore fully constitutional.


And the Government's own lawyers were arguing before the court that Obamacare was NOT a tax.


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Washington is so corrupt it is staggering. HRC can have her maid print classified emails yet they can't find "intent"?

On a side note, I think my wife is going to murder me while I sleep, between the Trump thread and this one I think I have aged twenty years.


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I don't think Comey wanted to reopen the investigation. Doing so was due to extreme political pressures, not some benevolent or noble concern to get at the truth. Those of us who celebrated the reopening of the investigation were wrong to conclude there was any potential for a different outcome.

Comey simply waited a few days to make it look good and then re-announced there was nothing worth prosecuting.

My opinion of him has gone even lower than it was before.


No. He didn't do it because of political pressure. He reopened the investigation because new evidence was found, and he told Congress under oath that he would notify them if anything new came to light. He simply did it to cover his butt so later he wouldn't be asked tough questions during another hearing.

And then yes, he let a little time pass before calling all clear again. This man is a pathetic political hack and a coward.


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"Why would the foundation pick the Friday before the election to come clean on this suspicious story?"

Clinton Foundation: Yes, we took $1M from Qatar without State review

http://hotair.com/archives/201...ithout-state-review/

The Clinton Foundation confirmed that it took a million-dollar donation from the Qatar government while Hillary Clinton served as Secretary of State, violating an agreement with the White House. Foundation officials confirmed what a Wikileaks release revealed a few weeks earlier, but claimed the seven-figure gift didn’t amount to a substantial enough sum to trigger a State Department review, Reuters reports. No one is yet talking about whether it got the Qatar government its requested face time with former president Bill Clinton, however:

The Clinton Foundation has confirmed it accepted a $1 million gift from Qatar while Hillary Clinton was U.S. secretary of state without informing the State Department, even though she had promised to let the agency review new or significantly increased support from foreign governments.

Qatari officials pledged the money in 2011 to mark the 65th birthday of Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton’s husband, and sought to meet the former U.S. president in person the following year to present him the check, according to an email from a foundation official to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign chairman, John Podesta. The email, among thousands hacked from Podesta’s account, was published last month by WikiLeaks.

Clinton signed an ethics agreement governing her family’s globe-straddling foundation in order to become secretary of state in 2009. The agreement was designed to increase transparency to avoid appearances that U.S. foreign policy could be swayed by wealthy donors. …

Clinton Foundation officials last month declined to confirm the Qatar donation. In response to additional questions, a foundation spokesman, Brian Cookstra, this week said that it accepted the $1 million gift from Qatar, but this did not amount to a “material increase” in the Gulf country’s support for the charity. Cookstra declined to say whether Qatari officials received their requested meeting with Bill Clinton.

That would constitute a quid pro quo, but not (directly) involving public office. Bill Clinton at that time was a private citizen, who can sell his own time in any legal manner he sees fit. That might trigger some interest at the IRS in relation to their tax-exempt status, but it’s not a criminal issue unless Qatar used the donation to buy access to Hillary Clinton. The implication, however, is that the Qatar government wanted access to Bill in order to indirectly influence Hillary. After all, even as rich as the Qatar emirs are, they’re not going to blow a million bucks just to get a photo with Bill Clinton.

That, of course, is why the White House demanded reviews by the State Department ethics office in the first place. The fact that the Clinton Foundation never asked for a review makes this case very curious indeed. Any large new donation from a government with requests for access to the spouse of the Secretary of State should have prompted suspicions about potential motives. In this case, though, neither the Foundation nor Hillary herself appears to have wanted the State Department to ask questions. That’s not an “oversight,” it’s evasiveness.

It’s not the only thing curious about this story, either. Why would the foundation pick the Friday before the election to come clean on this suspicious story? Why not wait until the Friday after the election? Perhaps they’re not terribly worried about this line of attack from Team Trump, but that doesn’t mean that it’s a smart idea to give it more headlines the last few days of the election cycle, either.

Other oddities have popped up over the last few hours, too. People expected both sides to come up with their worst dirt on their opponents on the Friday before the election, but Team Trump stuck to its own arguments instead — perhaps figuring that any new attacks would simply distract from the headlines about the FBI investigations of the Clintons. Team Hillary’s final parting shot was an attack on Melania Trump for allegedly working as a model before getting a work visa … more than 20 years ago. The AP seems pretty excited by this story, but it’s basically a rehash of an earlier attack that didn’t stick then either. As closing attacks go, this one says more about Team Hillary running out of gas than it does about Melania, who we should point out isn’t the candidate anyway.

This is the way 2016 ends, this is way 2016 ends, this is the way 2016 ends … not with a bang, but a whimper. (Apologies to TS Eliot.)


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I guess Comey best get to accepting those stacks of resignations we were told were piling up on his desk.

We were told no one would acknowledge him as he strolled down the halls, persona non grata.

And the lies just keep coming, what the hell can a person believe or trust ?

Was it Stalin that said, "I trust no one, not even myself"?

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Clinton's maid, without a clearance, would go into the SCIF in Clinton's home and “collected documents from the secure facsimile machine for Clinton,” the FBI notes revealed.

Just how sensitive were the papers Santos presumably handled? The FBI noted Clinton periodically received the Presidential Daily Brief — a top-secret document prepared by the CIA and other US intelligence agencies — via the secure fax.
 
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Clinton's maid, without a clearance, would go into the SCIF in Clinton's home and “collected documents from the secure facsimile machine for Clinton,” the FBI notes revealed.

Just how sensitive were the papers Santos presumably handled? The FBI noted Clinton periodically received the Presidential Daily Brief — a top-secret document prepared by the CIA and other US intelligence agencies — via the secure fax.


Throw the maid in jail.





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Just in the nick of time, imagine that. Doesn't seem at all like they were pressured to wrap up the investigation and exonerate her just a few short days before the election I mean, what a coincidence right? Roll Eyes

On the other hand, this may have the opposite affect of what leftists want. We all know her hardcore supporters will vote for her no matter what, but I doubt many other people will view this announcement and think, "Oh good, she's not guilty, guess she's completely innocent and I can vote for her now!" I think her corruption and compulsive lying are well known, so her avoiding punishment AGAIN just reinforces the idea laws don't apply to her. I think this will anger people.


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He won't be around to accept them. I believe Zippy will can him shortly after the election.

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I guess Comey best get to accepting those stacks of resignations we were told were piling up on his desk.
 
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Men: If Hillary Clinton wins on Tuesday, you might as well lop off your testicles with a meat cleaver and ship them parcel post to Washington, DC. Either that, or you can wait until the new Queen Bee’s Castration Squad knocks down your door and leaves your groin as flat and smooth as a Barbie Doll’s crotch. Get ready to have a vagina spot-welded onto where you used to have a penis.



Ain't no one turning my nards into a Barbie Doll's crotch, I don't care who's elected President.


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great timing - break this story today?


Benghazi guards turned on US diplomats in 2012 attack, sources say

By Malia Zimmerman, Adam Housley Published November 07, 2016


An obscure private firm hired by the State Department over internal objections to protect U.S. diplomats in Benghazi just months before the American ambassador and three others were killed was staffed with hastily recruited locals with terror ties who helped carry out the attack, multiple sources told Fox News.

The explosive charge against Wales-based Blue Mountain Group comes from several sources, including an independent security specialist who has implemented training programs at U.S. Consulates around the world, including in Benghazi, where he trained a local militia that preceded Blue Mountain. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Blue Mountain used local newspaper ads to assemble a team of 20 guards, many of whom had terror ties, after securing a $9.2 million annual contract.

John "Tig" Tiegen was there and says guards turned on Americans.
“The guards who were hired were locals who were part of the Ansar al-Sharia and Al Qaeda groups operating in Benghazi,” said the source, whose assignment in Benghazi had ended in November 2011. “Whoever approved contracts at the State Department hired Blue Mountain Group and then allowed Blue Mountain Group to hire local Libyans who were not vetted.”

TIMELINE OF CLINTON'S BENGHAZI STATEMENTS

Stevens, shown in rear wearing black, with several of the guards sources say turned on him. (Special to Fox News)
Many were members of the Libyan government-financed February 17th Martyrs Brigade, an Islamist militia that had previously guarded Americans before being replaced by Blue Mountain.

John “Tig” Tiegen, one of the CIA contractors that responded to the Sept. 11, 2012 attack and co-author of “13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened in Benghazi,” confirmed to Fox News that the local Libyans who attacked the consulate that night included guards working for Blue Mountain.

"Many of the local Libyans who attacked the consulate on the night of Sept. 11, 2012, were the actual guards that the State Department under Hillary Clinton hired to protect the Consulate in Benghazi,” Tiegen told Fox News. “The guards were unvetted and were locals with basically no background at all in providing security. Most of them never had held a job in security in the past.

“Blue Mountain Libya, at the time of being awarded the contract by our State Department, had no employees so they quickly had to find people to work, regardless of their backgrounds,” he said.

One former guard who witnessed the attack, Weeam Mohamed, confirmed in an email sent to the Citizens Commission on Benghazi and obtained by Fox News, that at least four of the guards hired by Blue Mountain took part in the attack after opening doors to allow their confederates in.

“In the U.S. Mission, there were four people [who] belonged to the battalion February 17,” Mohamed wrote to the Commission, an independent body formed with Accuracy in Media to investigate the attack and the administration's handling of it.

“Always armed. And they are free to move anywhere inside a building mission.

“And therefore, they had a chance to do an attack on the mission's headquarters. They have all the details about the place. At the same time they have given the United States a painful blow,” Mohamed wrote.

Blue Mountain officials did not return multiple requests for comment. The State Department acknowledged in internal emails obtained by FoxNews.com the local recruits fell short of their duty, but discounted the claim any took an active role in the attack that resulted in the deaths of Ambassador Christopher Stevens, Foreign Service Information Officer Sean Smith and CIA contractors and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

“While the Accountability Review Board report and other reports were critical of our local guards’ performance, we are not aware of any evidence that they participated in the attacks themselves,” said State Department spokesman John Kirby.

Blue Mountain was hired in February 2012, following an uprising that ended Col. Muammar Gaddafi's 42-year rule and plunged Libya into violent chaos. Congressional testimony in the wake of the attack on a consular office in Benghazi revealed that Stevens and his staff had made hundreds of requests for security upgrades but had been ignored by officials in Washington.

“We kept asking for additional support, including a 50-caliber mounted machine gun, but the State Department would not give it to us, because they said it would upset the locals,” the source told Fox News. “Instead, the State Department hired a company that doesn’t have employees, which then hired terrorists.”

Clare Lopez, a member of Citizens' Commission on Benghazi, said the Clinton State Department bears blame for the security situation.

“Think about it: Hillary Clinton's State Department actually hired the very people who, along with their jihadist allies in Benghazi, attacked us and killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and Sean Smith as well as CIA contractors Glen Doherty and Ty Woods,” Lopez said.

According to government records obtained by the Washington-based Judicial Watch, the State Department was in a “rush” to hire Blue Mountain UK, and its affiliate, Blue Mountain Libya, which together formed The Blue Mountain Group to secure the Benghazi contract.

“I understand there was a tremendous rush to get the original contract awarded, and the Service level agreement was most likely overlooked in the rush,” wrote State Department contracting officer Jan Visintainer, in a June 6, 2012, email. Emails obtained from [missing word] after the attack showed Visintainer urged Blue Mountain officials not to talk to the media.

Blue Mountain UK was formed in 2008 by David Nigel Thomas, a former Special Air Service official. Charles Tiefer, a commissioner at the Commission on Wartime Contracting, told Reuters the company was not well known.

"Blue Mountain was virtually unknown to the circles that studied private security contractors working for the United States, before the events in Benghazi," Tiefer said.

Despite the size of the operation, and having no staff or track record with the State Department, Blue Mountain Group landed the $767,767-per-month contract to protect the Benghazi consular office, beginning on Feb. 17, 2012.

The company solicited applications in local newspapers and on websites, and very little, if any, screening of guards was done, the security specialist told Fox News. The lack of vetting led to several potentially dangerous hires beginning in March of 2012, he said.

“One of those guards hired by Blue Mountain was the younger brother of the leader of Al Qaeda of Benghazi,” he said.

In an email obtained by Judicial Watch, Jairo Saravia of the Regional Security office for the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, told his superiors in Washington that Blue Mountain had held and lost security contracts in Tripoli, with the Corinthian Hotel and Palm City complex.

“The latest information is Blue Mountain is not licensed by the GOL (Government of Libya) to provide security services in Libya,” Saravia wrote. “I would advise not to use their services to provide security for any of our annexes and/or offices due to the sensitivity this issue has with the current GOL.”

Prior to Blue Mountain, security for Americans in Benghazi had been provided by the February 17th Martyrs Brigade under a direct agreement with the State Department. Despite its Islamist orientation, the militia included dozens of locals who had been carefully cultivated and trained by the U.S., according to the source. The majority of the February 17 Militia guards were fired without warning when Blue Mountain was hired, leading some members to turn against the Americans, he said. The State Department kept on at least three February 17 employees for patrol.

Eric Nordstrom, the regional security officer in Libya who has vast, first-hand knowledge of some 600 security requests denied to the U.S. diplomatic mission in Libya, testified on May 8, 2013, before the Congressional Committee On Oversight & Government Reform that he was aware that employees with both February 17 Martyrs Brigade and Blue Mountain had ties to Islamist terrorists.

“I had met with some of my agents and then also with some annex personnel. We discussed that,” Nordstrom told lawmakers.

Nordstrom testified that the “ferocity and intensity” of the 13-hour, four-phase attack, on the 11th anniversary of 9/11, was nothing that they had seen in Libya, or that he had seen in his time in the Diplomatic Security Service, with as many as 60 attackers in the consulate.

“I am stunned that the State Department was relying on [locals] with extremist ties to protect American diplomats,” U.S. Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, told Fox News. “That doesn’t make any sense. How does that happen?”

Fox News was able to verify through a former Libyan guard the identities of several February 17 employees hired despite terrorist ties, who he said participated in the attack. While their identities have been provided to federal authorizes, none have been prosecuted.


Adam Housley joined Fox News Channel (FNC) in 2001 and currently serves as a Los Angeles-based senior correspondent.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2...ack-sources-say.html



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Once again, follow the money. I wonder exactly how Blue Mountain obtained this contract.


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What would bring down the Clintons most....putting HRC in jail for not using proper email server to circumvent FOIA, or, shutting down and freezing assets of the Clinton Foundation via RICO act?
I, for one, would like for the FBI to skip an email lawsuit and see them go for the jugular and take ALL their money. That would effectively shut them down including Chelsea and her offspring. I would like to see them 'poor' again.
 
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What would bring down the Clintons most....putting HRC in jail for not using proper email server to circumvent FOIA, or, shutting down and freezing assets of the Clinton Foundation via RICO act?
I, for one, would like for the FBI to skip an email lawsuit and see them go for the jugular and take ALL their money. That would effectively shut them down including Chelsea and her offspring. I would like to see them 'poor' again.


All fine and dandy.....but the opportunity to prevent a Clinton presidency is what matters to me. Comey could have done just that by following the law and the evidence. Now if Hillary wins, her downfall simply means a Kaine presidency and the same stupid progressive policies that Hillary would have enacted. If Comey had done his job, we'd be looking at President Trump with both houses of Congress in GOP control as a near certainty. Now we just have to hope that the voters give us just that anyway.
 
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What would bring down the Clintons most....putting HRC in jail for not using proper email server to circumvent FOIA, or, shutting down and freezing assets of the Clinton Foundation via RICO act?
I, for one, would like for the FBI to skip an email lawsuit and see them go for the jugular and take ALL their money. That would effectively shut them down including Chelsea and her offspring. I would like to see them 'poor' again.


All fine and dandy.....but the opportunity to prevent a Clinton presidency is what matters to me. Comey could have done just that by following the law and the evidence. Now if Hillary wins, her downfall simply means a Kaine presidency and the same stupid progressive policies that Hillary would have enacted. If Comey had done his job, we'd be looking at President Trump with both houses of Congress in GOP control as a near certainty. Now we just have to hope that the voters give us just that anyway.


You are correct,but this investigation was rigged from the beginning.Even if you would have had an honorable FBI Director, the corrupt Justice Department would have squashed any forthright investigation.


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I agree 100% with you Chicago sig. I also believe Kaine is more dangerous than most people know. He will be in contention in the future, but hopefully he will die of old age before he gets a chance. Dear God, we need to prevail tommorrow.........
edited to add that I think the plan all along was to get hrc elected so she could count her coup, then step down for Kaine to assume the presidency. He would never get there on his own as basically unknown.
 
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He is, and always has been a big Obozo stooge.


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Having former President Clinton and Hillary as well as President Obama and Mrs. Obama coming to Philadelphia for a massive get-out-the-vote rally on Election Eve is NOT indicative of a campaign confident they have Pennsylvania in the bag on Election Day.

For those who don't know; Philadelphia is a SOLID blue city in a pretty blue state that last elected a Republican POTUS in 1988.


 
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^^^^^ I hope their fears are well-founded, and that their efforts are fruitless.

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